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Verbose is right: can't train him.

>mfw I've bred sixty Bagons and still don't have a naive one.

I'm going to nickname all my Bagons "Bilbo," so that I have an army of Bilbo Bagons.

I have a box and a half of non bold and Natural Cure Happinies in White. I began numbering them starting with Happiny #13.

Fun story time.
>Notice my Ferrothorn has very weak gyro balls
>go to battle subway guy
>She has 31 speed IVs
If I knew anything about Pokemon breeding I'd be happier, but that's still pretty crazy for a wild Pokemon.

>Has never heard of Everstone

FIRE/FIGHTING CUNFURMED

Can't pass on natures you don't have in the first place.

In the meantime, I have acquired a naive Bagon and fully EV trained it since my last post. Now just slaughtering Audinos to get my Salamence.

I call malarky and witchcraft. If any of the Gen 6 starters are going to become part Fighting, my money is on Froakie (they've got Infernape and Emboar based on two characters from the tale Journey to the West, and if memory serves one of the remaining characters from the tale was something like a kappa…).

Meanwhile: possibility of the third Legendary for Xerneas and Yveltal being based on organs.

Prepare for tl;dr, I'm gonna start theorizing.

I believe the starters' final typings will be Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Ice. To reach this conclusion, I'm drawing upon the methods used for previous starter types. They usually try to keep the starters as balanced as possible so that there's no clear superior choice, thereby encouraging diversity. This is demonstrated especially in gens 2 and 4.

The Johto starters were all mono-type, keeping them in the standard advantage triangle, and therefore maintaining balance. The Sinnoh trio are the best example of balance. The first evolutions were all mono-types, and by their final evolutions they developed resistances or advantages to the type they started out weak to. Torterra's Ground typing was super effective on Infernape, Infernape's Fighting typing was super effective on Empoleon's Steel typing, and Empoleon lost its initial weakness to Grass. With this in mind, especially considering the pattern of gens 2, 4, and now 6, we can probably assume the typings will balance in the end.

They don't always balance though, Charizard had a 4x resistance to Grass which tilted the scales, and Swampert had a deadly 4x weakness to Sceptile.Gen 5 kept it fairly close though, the only incongruity was Emboar's Fighting type, letting it hit Samurott neutrally. Not a big deal.

I'll start with the one I'm most confident on; Froakie. Look at the white fluff on its back. It's white, pillow-y, and hanging back like the hood of a heavy coat. That's begging to turn into a full fledged winter coat setup, and the Ice typing will balance it more against Chespin's Grass typing.

I'm confident that Fennekin will end up Fire/Psychic. At first I was naturally afraid they'd make ANOTHER Fire/Fighting, but look at its body. Tiny frail legs, tiny body, massive head. Nothing suggesting Fighting. That big head makes me think Psychic though. Plus its name, Fennekin. The "-kin" is for "kindle", sure, but it could also allude to "kinesis". On top of that, foxes are often attributed with supernatural powers in Japanese stuff. Psychic makes a lot of sense.

Chespin's trickiest. Keeping Chespin pure Grass would leave it at a pretty distinct disadvantage to the other two, so it probably has a second type. Consider the chestnut on its head. Chestnuts are very tough and rough. That means it'll probably be a physically inclined Pokemon, defensively and offensively. Therefore, it stands to reason that the second type will be physically based. That leaves Normal, Flying, Fighting, Poison, Bug, Rock, Ground, Dark, Steel, and Dragon.

Poison and Fighting would leave it incredibly weak to a Fire/Psychic Fennekin, so we can rule them out. Steel, while defensive, would leave it 4x weak to Fire. Bug is similarly a bad option. Flying is possible, a flying squirrel isn't impossible, but that would be 4x weak to Froakie's theorized Ice type. Same for Grass/Ground. Dragon is 4x weak to Ice too, and since Dragon is proven to be a late-game type anyway, that's off the table. Normal is pretty much only paired up with Flying, except for Meloetta and Deerling. Meloetta's a legendary and Deerling is already Grass/Normal, so a repeat of that is really unlikely. That leaves Rock and Dark. Both could even the odds against a Fire/Psychic. Dark would defend against Psychic, and Rock would remove its weakness to Fire. Rock is more likely from a design perspective, the chestnut could develop into some protective stone helmet thing, that means it wouldn't resist Water anymore. That means it would not resist Froakie's water moves AND be weak to its Ice moves. I don't think they'd make a Grass starter that vulnerable to a Water starter. Dark seems more likely to me. It'll probably learn Bite and Crunch because of its large rodent teeth.

Bam. Theories.

>mfw i got a naive Bagon on 2-4th try

What I do is when the old man has the egg ready, I save before I take it from him. That way, if its not the right nature when i hatch it, i can restart the game and get it again.

Last fire starter I picked was Cyndiquil, so I never really got a chance to get sick of the fire/fighting type.

By the way, I want to give a shout out to Adam. He actually went through the trouble of getting a dreamworld vulpix. A round of applause for him please.

That's totally impractical. By the time you hatch that one egg all over again, the old man could have given you more eggs you could be working on. Your method doesn't make any sense at all. It's not like you only get one egg ever.

Meanwhile, Nintendo confirms the starters to be pure in their respective types. They're more than likely to get secondary types as they evolve, but for now this is all we know, so whatevah.

@Calkarot

I do actually go through with getting and hatching every egg. I use a Japanese Ditto most of the time, though this time I was using Japanese and American Bagons to breed faster, so I stick through with them with the minuscule, minuscule hope that one of them will hatch to be shiny.

In other news, my Salamence is fully EV trained and is a monster. I've also gone and acquired myself a fully EV trained Scizor, so yeah. Pretty sick.

I just keep my Volcarona With flame body and ride my bike past him till I get 5 eggs so I im always working on more than one at a time. I've found it to be very efficient. Your way seems very time consuming.

I hope Froakie is water/flying or water/dark. Because they would be best.

I love this typing, but I seriously hope they don't use it for the starters again. At least not a fourth time in a row. I kinda think Fennekin will just be fire.

As for the others, the white puffs Froakie has seem to resemble little clouds. Maybe they'll darken to resemble thunderheads when he evolves and he'll become water/electric? Or they could just be soap bubbles. Soap is made with acid, which may hint at a poison type – which also makes sense because numerous species of frogs are poisonous but doesn't work because I don't think they'd render Chespin's grass typing less useful against the water starter and give froakie the advantage over Chespin and Fennekin like that unless they have dual types that balance things out. (however Chimchar became effective against Turtwig and Piplup in the end, so I guess you never know).

I also think Chespin might turn out to be rock in one of his later evolutions for Jack's reasons and because many but not all of the ancient pokemon are rock – and it looks like Chespin is based off the first mamal according to this.

Jack Candle wrote:

At first I was naturally afraid they’d make ANOTHER Fire/Fighting, but look at its body. Tiny frail legs, tiny body, massive head. Nothing suggesting Fighting.

Well played. Very well played. However…

Except Fennekin is a quadruped. The only Fighting-type quadrupeds are Arceus-Fighting (who doesn't really count) and the swords of justice.

Can't forget about that evolution thing.

Tepig isn't a fighting-type though. Pure fire.

Why does Nintendo have such a fascination with Fire/Fighting types as starters?

His point was that just because Fennekin is a quadruped doesn't mean that his evolutions can't suddenly become bipedal and part-Fighting like Tepig's evolutionary line.

Really it's Game Freak, not Nintendo. Maybe they just have a thing for firefighters. BA DUM TSSS

Ah, I see. I didn't get that from his post. Thanks for the clarification.

How many times do we have to repeat this?

Infernape and Emboar were based on characters from Journey to the West and Blaziken was Fire/Fighting just because.

I noticed an interesting little tidbit. When Chespin and Fennekin attack, their models change a little. Look at Chespin's head spikes:

They sharpen as he launches, presumably, Absorb. And for Fennekin,

The ear and cheek tufts bristle out. Neat.

Found this thread on /vp/. Maybe it's legit?

Just took a look. It's about as legit as Te'o's love life.

The guy supposedly didn't have a camera on hand, despite supposedly working for a review site, and conveniently ran into a mysterious black screen that prevented him from actually taking pictures of any gameplay. The only thing he took a picture of was the 3DS menu with a blacked-out icon that said "Pokemon" underneath it, but that's not tricky to fake. It'd be easily shopped in the 20 minutes he claimed were spent "charging his phone." No timestamp, only one picture of vague censored content, no way it's legit.

Now I have all the diabeetus. Thanks very much.

But yeah, I'm kinda guessing that they wanted to make use of the 3DS hardware as well which is why we have the sudden jump from Gen V to Gen VI.

Speaking of which, hope they retain a lot of Gen V stuff. Having infinite TMs, and nurses and doctors on the routes was nice.

I found it, and I just had to post it somewhere…

The starters are Tentacool, Tangela, and Lickitung (who is now Fire type).

That's not how you spell Gardevoir and Lopunny.

Jack wants teh pokemon wimminz.

Silly Jack, those are your rival's Pokemon!

And as if I couldn't go any further…

…

Jack still wants the pokémon wimminz.

Maybe they're finally catering to an older audience.

So, KYM, what's your favorite Eeveelution?
I'm a fan of Jolteon.

Espeon is a close second though.

Glaceon is the only true choice.

Jolteon all day erry day.

Here's how I rank them

1. Espeon
2. Glaceon
3. Umbreon
4. Leafeon
5. Flareon
6. Jolteon
7. Vaporeon

Jolteon is besteon,

I like Adam's setup:

1. Espeon
2. Umbreon (Gen 2 fanboy)
3. Vaporeon
4. Glaceon
5. Flareon (it'd be higher with moves that matched its stats)
6. Leafeon
7. Jolteon

1. Espeon
2. Glaceon
3. Flareon
4. Jolteon
5. Flareon
6. Umbreon
7. Leafeon

Did you click my link?