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![Fire Emblem Fates - Leon x Marx "But enough brotherly bonding Let's talk strategy."ไธhttps://youtu.be/OMTzJemh08 There wasn't much they could have changed here to place it in the same context as C and B. So instead, they've changed the lines in which he shows some confidence, to further push and exaggerate both his competitive side and his arrogance. The last line that is present only in the localization sounds like some kind of joke or parody https://karasucorps.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/fire-emblem-fates-support-conversation- leon-x-marx-a/ #Torrentia!Downpour Significant A Support Alterations Translation Original Nintendo of America Ver. [ใฌใชใณ] Leon: I... I can 't believe that Leo: I.. .I don't know what to believe ใใใช ใใใชใใจไฟกใใใใชใใใ [ใใผใฏใน] ใใใฏๅๅฝใใฎใชใๆฌๅฝใฎใใจใ ใ ใๅใฏ็งใซๅฏพใใฆ ๆฐๅพใใใใใจใชใฉไฝไธใคใชใใ ่ป่ญฐใงใๅ ใ
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ใฎใใใซใชใใ Marx: It is neither lie, nor falsehood, but the truth There's no reason for you to feel like youre behind me So shout out your opinions in the war council. your mind boldly in our war meetings, for the That would be best for us all Xander: I have only spoken the truth, Leo. In your heart, you must know that. I value you more than you know. So there's no reason to be shy around me, is there? I implore you to speak benefit of us all [ใฌใชใณ] Leon: Leo: As you wish, Xander. From now on, no I understand From now on, I'm going to be more proactive. better watch yourself, or I may be nipping at To the point that you view me as a threat! more holding back my opinions. In fact, you ใใใฃใใใ ใใใใใฏใใฃใจ็ฉๆฅต็ใซ่กใ ๅ
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ๅจใซๆใใปใฉใซใญใ your heels again soon [ใใผใฏ์ง Marx: Heh, those are reassuring words. I'll be Xander: Ha! I dearly hope so. I'm proud of you, depending on you, Leon ใตใฃใ้ ผใใใ็บ่จใ ใ ้ ผใใซใใฆใใใใใฌใชใณใ Leo [BLANK] Leo: Thanks, Xander. But enough brotherly bonding... Let's talk strategy! [BLANK]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/102/990/3ab.png "Leo x Xander A conversation significant changes")
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![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo As seen previously, the conversation is completely changed, instead of a confession from Foleo, we have a semi-non- friday Anyway, in the original, Foleo finally expresses his inner issues with how he thinks others see him, the localization misses that, actually, the localization misses any type of characterization, or at least, meaningful characterization. Soleil taks about her own preferences in romance and also shows a more embarrassed side which is usually absent from the really socially free Soleil. The localization talks about a bottle of shampoo. Oh and, it finally shows what they wanted to make Foleo become. If you've seen C, B and A, you'd know Foleo has some issues with his apperance in the original, the localization takes that out. Let that sink ih. If you want to see all the other documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Forrest: Hello, Soleil. Im sorry again about the hair debacle! You've looked so down ever since! I can make it up to you. I'd be happy to sew you like mine? Would that cheer you up? Soleil: That's really sweet of you, Forrest, but I that frown upside down," but sometimes that's Soleil:What's up with you, Foleo? YOU calling MY name. Will wonders never cease. don't think a cape will help. I always say,"Tun ใใฉใฌใชใใๅฃฐใใใใฆใใใใชใใฆ hard to do about you Do girls? har. I don't know ใฝใฌใคใฆใฏ ๅฅณใฎๅญใๅฅฝใใชใใงใใใญ? ใใฏใฏ ไปๆดใใใชใใจใ่ใใฎ? Soleil: Ahaha. You have to ask? Of course! I love cute girls! Soleil: Oh, that's not it! I'm bummed because you wont curls and I are hopeless! ใใใใฏๅฏๆใๅฅณใฎๅญใๅคงๅฅฝใใ ใ! ็ทใฎๅญใใใใกใชใใงใใ? Foleo: So you're not interested in boys? I mean Forrest: Why would you say that? There are other Soleil: I wouldnt say I'm not interested in them Soleil: Really? I thought someone super-cute like I mean, look there's no grace with guys, right? we could do besides har! [ใฝใฌใคใฆ] ๅฅณใฎๅญใฎๆนใๆญ็ถๅฅฝใใ ใใ ใ ใใใ่ฆใฆใฆใ็ใไธใใใชใใใ ใใญ you would have tons of friends already So I don't get worked up when I look at them. Forrest: I have friends, but I've always got room ใใฃใฑใใใใชใใงใใโฆ Soleil: But I ove you My heart really gets going when I look at you and I just want to squeeze you ch so tight! Soleil: And what if I don't want to be your friend? ใงใใใใฉใฌใชใฎใใจใฏๅฅฝใใ ใใ ่ฆใฆใฆใใ
ใใ ใใใใใ Foleo: Realy? You really think that of me? Forrest: Oh! well, in that case, I t be on my ๆฌๅฝใซใใๆใฃใฆใใใฆใใใฎใงใใ? ๅใฏ็ทใชใฎใซใใใช่ฆใ็ฎใงโฆ ๆฐๆใกๆชใใจๆใฃใใใจใฏใชใใใงใใ? boy, but I look lke this? Soleil: How could I ever think such a thing!! Soleil: No! Wait! I didn't mean it lke that. What if I want to be MORE than your friend? ใใฉใฌใชใฏใจใฃใฆใ็ด ๆตใ ใใใ Why would I chase you around so much if you ใใฉใฌใชใๆชใ่จใๅฅดใใใใ picking on you, I'1l give em what If for with my ใฝใฌใคใฆ If that's true . then would you consider a ใใใช ๅใจใไปใๅใใใฆใใใพใใใ? Soleil: You know that I have a thing for super cute girls, right? all? I love you. Forrest: Right..but you know that Im.. ๅใฏใฝใฌใคใฆใฎใใจใๅฅฝใใชใใงใใ ใใฉยท ใใฉใฌใชใใใใใๅฅฝใ! ? Soleil: Y-you love me? ใ่ฟทๆใ ใฃใใงใใใใ? Forrest: Well, Soleil, I think youre pretty adorable ใพใ ใพใใใใใช No no Solell: Really? ใใฉใฌใชใฟใใใชๅฏๆใๅญใซๅ็ฝใใใฆ ใใใใๅคฉใซใๆใใใใชๆฐๅใง Forrest: Yes! You have so much energy. When you show up, you light up the whole room. I don't even mind all of the hair pulling and the Foleo: Soleil! Soleil: Wait a minute! You said I could borrow it ๅใฏ็ๅฃใชใใงใ ็ๅฃใซ่ฟไบใใใฆไธใใ Forrest: Im teasing! In fact, I have a gift for you I got you your very own bottle. ser Soleil: Youre right sorry. But, I ..just dont Soleil: What?! For me? You mean, I can smell like ใงใใใใใโฆใใใใชใใ ใใใใใฉใฌใชใซๅฅฝใใใใใใชใใจ I haven't done anything to make you love me ใใคใ่ฟฝใใใๅใใฆใใ ใใชใฎใซ ใใงใใ ใฝใฌใคใฆใฏๅใ็ทใจใๅฅณใจใ Without worrying about whether I'm a boy ora too, you know girl You said you ใใชๅฅณๆงใฏไปใซใฏใใพใใใ ๅใฏ ใใชใใๅฅฝใใชใใงใโฆ There's no other lady lke that around. That's I love you. Soleil: Aww... Thanks, Forrest! You really know a girt feel special ่ฟไบใ่ใใใฆใใ ใใใ ใฝใฌใคใฆ Soleil: D-Don't be so mean, Foleo Im the one [BLANK] |ใใคใใฏใใใใใ่ชฌใๆนใ ใฃใใฎใซ I love you too as a woman loves a man. ใใฉใฌใชใๅฅฝใใ ใ ไธไบบใฎ็ทๆงใจใใฆ [ใใฉใฌใช]ๆฌๅฝใงใใ! Foleo: Realy? Soleil... that makes my day! ใใงๅใใกใฏๆไบบๅๅฃซใงใใญ! [ใฝใฌใคใฆ ใกใใฃใจโฆๆๅ
ใใใใชใใงใใใฉใฌใช. Soleil: Aiie! Wait don't hug me, Foleo! ใฉใใใฆใงใใ? Foleo: Why? Youte always hugging me. Soleil: Being hugged is different from hugging! [BLANK] ใใใฎใจใใใใฎใใ้ใใใ ใ! Foleo: Well that's because youfe so cute and I [ใใฉใฌใช]ใฝใฌใคใฆใๅฏๆใใฎใใใใชใใใง ใใใใใใซ, ่ชๅใฎๆฐๆใกใซๅใใคใๆนใ ๆฅใใใใ ใฝใฌใคใฆ่จใฃใฆใพใใใงใใใฃใ? Also, lying about what you feel is more embarrassing Isnt that you said, Solell? me ใฌใคใฆ]ใใฉใฌใชใฎใใใใ Foleo: Ehehe. You can handle a little teasing. It's not as if I'm trying to embarrass you in front of BLANK] everyone. Im going to treasure you from now [ใใฉใฌใช]ใใตใตยทใใใใใงใใใงใใโ ๆฅใใใใซใฏใชใใใใใใพใใใใใ ไปใพใง่ฟฝใใใๅใใใๅโฆใใใใใฏ ๅใใใชใใๅฏๆใใฃใกใใใพใใใใญใ ้ใใใพใใใ. ๅใฎๅฏๆใใฝใฌใคใฆใ as you used to chase me around. I wont let you get away, my cute little [ใฝใฌใคใฆ] ใชใใ Soleil: Oooh I dont know about this](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/169/eb8.png "Soleil x Foleo S support")
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![Fire Emblem Fates - Leon x Marx The first few lines remain the same, until the support starts delving into the motivations of the characters. While both situations talk about the war meeting (professional context) Xander engages Leo less formally and does not remind Leo of his "noblesse oblige" in the original. Xander is the type that mixes formal and informal speech, basically, he's not as stuck up as he seems in the localization, instead, his speech is sometimes formal, sometimes not, depending on the situation and with whom he speaks Leo's really angry outburst is also not present in the original (and in this context, Xander is more surprised by Leon's words), he tries to hide his problem because he's uncertain and feels that he can't measure up, so instead of anger, he's more depressed and closed in more than anything("Nante ne"/"ใชใใฆใญ" to "I'm kidding" or "just kidding" to hide it), which is why his change to an arrogant and dismissive character changes the context of the scene dramatically. https://karasucorps.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/fire-emblem-fates-support-conversation- leon-X-marx-c #Torrentia!Downpour C Support Translation Original Nintendo of America Ver. [ใใผใฏ์ง Marx: Leon. Do you have a minute? We need to Xander: Leo. Do you have a moment? I wish to talk about the war council the other day ใฌใชใณใๅฐใใใใใ ใใฎ้ใฎ่ป่ญฐใฎใใจใง่ฉฑใใใใ speak with you about the last war meeting [ใฌใชใณ] Leon: About the war council? Leo: The war meeting? Whatever about? ลๆ ใใผใฏใน ใๅใฏๆๆใใใฆๆ่ฆใๅบใใใจใใใ ็ตๅฑใฏไฝใ่จใใใซใใใฆใใพใฃใฆใใใ ใใใฏใฉใใใใใจใ ใ Marx: You raised your hand and were about to Xander: I saw you raise your hand as if you were | say something, but by the end, you stopped without saying anything What was that all about? | about to give your opinion on something. But then you lowered it without a word... Leon: Oh, that... Leo: Ah. Well... That was ใใใฏ Marx: If youre not pleased with my direction, I'd Xander: If you take issue with what I'm have you give me your personal suggestions without reserve [ใใผใฏ์ง ใใใ ใ ็งใฎๆน้ใๆฐใซๅ
ฅใใชใใชใ ใชใฎๆกใใกใใใจๅบใในใ proposing, you should not hesitate to speak up You are a prince of Nohr, Leo. It is your royal duty to do so Leon: It would be meaningless if I did Leo: I suppose...though there would have been no point in speaking up ,ๅบใใใจใใใงๆๅณใชใใใ ใใผใฏใน Marx: What are you saying? Xander: How so? ใ ใฃใฆใ่ป่ญฐใฎๆน้ใฏ ใใผใฏในๅ
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ใใใฎๆน้ใฎๅใงใฏ Leon: I mean the direction of the war council is Leo: *sigh* Because you're the crown prince something you, my big brother decide In front of that, my suggestions are just Xander. You alone decide what we do. And with the great Xander at the helm, my ideas are like those of a child. So what's the point of speaking Uu ใใผใฏใน ๆ่ฆใ่จใๅใซๅฐป่พผใฟใใใฆใฉใใใใ ็งใ ใฃใใใใใชใใจใง Marx: What are you doing sitting on your ass Xander: What's the point of remaining silent? If I feeling sorry for yourself for giving an opinion. I were in your shoes, I would would not be intimidated by such things Leon: Im different from you, brother. Leo: That's just it, Xander! I'm NOT you! ๅใจใใผใฏในๅ
ใใใฏ้ใใใ ใใผใฏใน Marx: !! Xander: !! ใชใใฆใญ ใงใใใใใใผใฏในๅ
ใใใ ๆชใใฎใฏๅใ ใ ไปๅบฆใใๆฐใใคใใใใ Leon: I'm kidding! Sorry, Marx That's my bad. Ill keep that in mind from now on Leo: ...I'm sorry, Brother. Please forgive my outburst. I beg of you to let this go. It's all my fault, as ever. I promise to make you proud next ime ใใผใฏใน Marx: Leon Xander: Leo ใฌใชใณ](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/102/988/e37.png "Leo x Xander C conversation")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna Lazwald's change to being an "annoyance" is now part of his character in the S support, changing his way of approaching Selena again, taking away from the purpose of the conversation. Most likely because they had to put something in there after they ve already changed Lazwald's character in the t string Odin's insertion is another reminder of discontinuity in the conversations not being fixed properly There are various other lines that were altered or cut to change their interactions and character. For example, Selena doesn't show her less rough side of her character, every mention of it has been cut out or altered in the localization, embarrassment and bashfulness seem to be a target for alteration for whatever reason. As usual, romance, nuance and depth have been shred apart (and probably in this case because they wanted to fit Selena completely in the "Tsundere" character trope without having her also resort to physical violence) #Torrential Downpour S Support Translation Nintendo of America Ver. [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: Luna, I have a gift for you today! Laslow: Selena, my darling! I have a gift for you ไปๆฅใฏๅใซ่ดใ็ฉใใใใใ ใ Luna: Lazwald what's with you all of a Selena: Hm? For me? ใฉใบใฏใซใ [ใฉใบใฏใซใใใใฃ(ใใใฎ? Lazwald: It's this bracelet. I wonder if youll Laslow: Ta-da! It's a bracelet! ใใฎ่
่ผชใชใใ ใใฉโฆ ๅใๅใฃใฆใใใใชใใใช? Luna: !! That .. .b-bracelet Selena: Laslow! Is that...? [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: I've always kept it safe, so that I might Laslow: Indeed it is. I've been keeping it one ใใคใๅใซๆธกใใใใใซใฃใฆ ใใฃใจๅคงๅใซใใพใฃใฆใใใใใ ใ Luna: B-but, why now . why give it to me Selena: But...why are you giving this to me now? ใงใใงใใใฉใใใฆไป ใใใใใใใซใใใใฎ? [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: Ahaha! Why do you think? Laslow: Why do you think I am? ใใฏใฏ ใชใใงใ ใจๆใ? ใใ่ใใฆใใฎใฏใใใใ! ๆฉใ็็ฑใๆใใชใใใ! Luna: Im the one asking the questions here! Sena: I'm the one asking the questions here! Tell me why youre doing this, right now Lazwald: Okay well I thought about it a lot Laslow: Fine, fine. You're no fun! I decided to After all that thought, I came to the conclusion give it to you because...well... It's a symbol of that I love you. I want to be with you foreve our everlasting friendship! ใใ่ใใใใ ใใฉใ ๅใฏใใฃใฑใใใซใผใใๅฅฝใใ ใใ Selena [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Laslow: Because we I thought it would be nice for you to have a keepsake lke this. It's to remind you that I'll always be here for you. give you this So brace ใฌใผใใซๆธกใใใใชใฃใฆๆใฃใใใ ใใ Luna: I got that part of it! You really thought you wanted to be together my side forever Selena: Yeah, yeah, I get it. You want to be by ใใใใใฏใใใฃใฆใใใ! ใใใใฏใใใใจ ใใฃใจไธ็ทใซใใใใฃใฆๆใฃใใฎใใญ? ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Luna: So you've got the bracelet . that you Selena: So...everlasting friendship, huh? Did you ใใฎ่
่ผชใโฆ ใใใงใ ใใใ me give something to Odin too, then? Or...is there What I mean to say is come on..dont you something else you'd like to say? have something else to tell me? ไฝใไปใซใ่จใใใจใใใใใใใชใ? [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: I dont know? What could you possibly Laslow: Something else? Like what? alking Luna: Erg, I just can't stand it anymore! Why are Selena: Do you really have to be so thickheaded? so ใชใใงใใใชใซใซใถใใฎใ! [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Laslow: Im sorry! I was just kidding ใใฏใฏ Luna: What's a j-joke? Selena: Kidding?! [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: I do love you. Consider this bracelet Laslow: I do have something else to say to you. my vow of love to you. ๅใฏๅใๆใใฆใ ใใฎ่
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่ผชใ ใใ I love you. And this bracelet is a token of my love. And to answer your other question, no, I did not give anything to Odin Selena: Go on. Lazwald: So can you see it in your heart to Laslow: Please, Selena... Will you marry me? ๅใจ็ตๅฉใใฆใใใชใใใช? Luna: Finally! Why dont you just say it honestly Selena: Finally! There it is! Took you long ๆๅใใ็ด ็ดใซใใ่จใฃใฆใใญ! [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: Well will you tell me your answer? Laslow: So, um... Do you have an answer for me? ใใใง ใฌใผใใฎ่ฟไบใ่ใใฆใใใใใช? Selena: Oh. Right. I guess it's my turn. I mean, Luna: I-I.. what could I say it's We've known each for so long, y-you know what we've known each other so long... Do I really my answer is without me even saying it! ใชใใฆใใใ ใใฎ ่จใใชใใใฃใฆใใใฃใฆใใงใใ!? [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: Nope. Dont know. Not if you dont tell Laslow: Yes. You do me [ ใซใผ Selena: Come on! Don't be cruel. You know how Despite the fact that you know very well .. what I feel ใใใใฎๆฐๆใกใชใใฆโฆ ใใใใใฃใฆใใใใซ are [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: aha, come on, let me hear it. I can't | Laslow: Haha, so then say it already! ใใฏใฏ Selena: .. OK. Um...look, Laslow. I really like I-I . love you .too... I always have.I always will, no matter where we end up .I love you. ใใใใฎใใจใๅฅฝใ ไปใพใงใ ,ใใใ. ใฉใบใฏใซใ Luna: So I guess I have nothing better to do Selena: Ugh, fine. Look, I love you! I love you, Laslow ไปๆนใชใใใ็ตๅฉใใฆใใใใ! Lazwald: Thank you ! With this promise, Laslow: Splendid! And will you share your life never be torn apart from each other ใใใงๅใใกใฏโฆไธ็้ขใใใใชใใญใ ใใใใใโฆๅนธใใซใใชใใฃใใ ่จฑใใชใใใ ใใ Luna: W-well said .. but I'm warning you, if Selena: Yes! But if you mess this up, I will end you don't make me happy, you'll never hear the you. Understand? end of it [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: I know, I know. I'll definitely make you Laslow: Understood. I am yours forever, my love ็ตถๅฏพใใใใใซใใใใ ใๅงซๆง! Selena: Soโฆyou know this means you can't be Laslow Selena Laslow: Just kidding! Of course I know that! I promise to devote from here on out. Selena: You better! Oh, and I'll do the same](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/097/430/c84.png "Lazwald x Selena S support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna Here it's more apparent why the cut line in the C conversation takes away a lot of meaning behind their discussion of their previous home, there's also an odd insertion of "Odin" in this conversation this just confuses the reader more because of the lack of mention of their "previous home". Selena continues to suffer from having her character being exaggerated and putting Lazwald down some more. The original Selena is still giving him more space to breathe instead Lazwald is also no longer portrayed as being oblivious and lacking self-awareness, but as an #Torrential Downpour origi Translation Nintendo of America Ver. ใบใฏใซใ : What do you want, Luna: Lazwald Lazwald: You totally got me the last time I thought I was going to die to fromm ใฉใบใฏใซใ [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] aslow: Oh, thank goodness! Youre back to ใใ ใใฎๅใฏๅใฃใใใ ใใใชใซ่ฆใคใใใใฆ ๆฅใใใใใฆๆญปใฌใใจๆใฃใกใใคใใ your old grumpy self. I was worried you were going to give me the flirty treatment again. I don't think I've ever been so mortified in my life embarrassment if you stared at me like that any Selena: Oh, yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have gone quite so far. You're not THAT bad... I just wanted you to know what it's like. I'm sorry Luna: Y-yeah well about that .. I'm sorry got this downtrodden look Laslow: Eh? Did you just...apologize? Without ou me It's not like you to just me WI ekly apologize some water ใใ็ด ็ดใซ่ฌใใชใใฆ are you coming ็ฑใงใใใใฎ? Luna: What! How rude! Ive no fever! It's just maybe I've been thinking about old Selena: What? No, I don't have a fever! I was just thinking about...old times ใฏใ!? ๅคฑ็คผใญ! ็ฑใชใใใชใใใ!! ๆใฎใใจใๆใๅบใใฆใใฃใฆใใใ [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: I guess remembering the world e slow: Ah.I see. Feeling lonely, then? I get came from has put you in a somber mood? that way too. It's hard being so far from home ๅ
ใฎไธ็ใๆใๅบใใฆ ๅฏใใใชใฃใกใใคใๆใใชใฎใใช? Luna: I-I'm not in a somber mood! But now that Selena: I'm not lonely! But...yeah. I miss it.I you mention our world โฆ It's been such a long time since our rightful ใใใใใใฏๅฏใใใชใใใชใใ! ๅ
ใฎไธ็ใฃใฆ่จ ใใใใใกใฎๆฌๅฝใฎๅฑ
ๅ ดๆใชใใฆ ใจใฃใใฎๆใซ็กใใชใฃใกใใคใ it now. No point in whining lace, if you can call it that, was taken from us There's no point in bringing it up now. I'm ใ ใใไปใใไฝใจใๆใใชใใใ fine it doesn't bother me at all Laslow: Selena... I won't tell you youre wrong We both know we can't go back. Not yet. But...I I guess if you think about it, we've come a longthink about it every day. What if everything went wa ใพใใ ่ใใฆใฟใใฐ ใใใญ ๅใใใพใซๆใๅบใใ ๅใใกใฎ็ใพใใไธ็ใฎใใจ No matter how much we fight here, were never ใใๅใๆปใใชใใฎ( ไปใงใใใฃใฑใใ่ใใกใใใใ ใใญใ now, I1l think of it. About how great it Luna: Lazwald [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] ใชใใฆใญ ใจใซใใๅใ่จใใใใฃใใฎใฏโฆ ใซใผใใๅฏใใใชใๆฐๆใกใฏ ๅใซใใใใใชใผใฃใฆใใจ! Lazwald: Dont look at me like that. Look, what I Laslow: I guess...what I mean to say is, I know want to say is I understand how you feel when you get that loneliness you're feeling too well. I feel it Selena: I already told you! I'm not feeling lonely! ใใใใฏๅฅใซๅฏใใใชใใฆใชใใ! [ใฉใบใฏใซใ1,- Laslow: Haha. Sorry, sorry! My mistake wa ใใฏใฏ ใใใใใใ a Selena: Well, er, I mean...maybe there are times I feel a little lonely, now and then, but. Luna: C-certainly there are times when I feel little tiny bit homesick, but Lazwald: But what? Luna: I guess youre here with me ใปใใฎๅฐใใ ใๅฏใใใชใใจใใใใใใฉ [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] ใใใใฉ? maybe Selena: Well, I have you, at least. And Odin. So completely ๅญค็ฌใฃใฆๆใใงใฏใชใใใ Lazwald: That's the spirit. I'll stick with you ใฏๅใใคใใฆใใใ come on, put on your usual smile! Smile! Luna: W-whenever Im with you, I'm more likely Selena: True...though I'm not sure how cheery I ใใใใใใจไธ็ทใซใใใจใใฏ ็ฌใฃใฆใใใๆใฃใฆใใใจใฎๆนใๅคใใใ! to be enraged than smiling! Lazwald: Ahaha! It has always been that wa Hey, if it's worth anything to you, I1l always be Ill be by your side anytime you need me Luna: D-dont get the wrong idea! It's just my should be if you're my only link to home Laslow: Haha! Now that's the Selena we all know and love! Well, either way, I want you to know ใพใใๅใงใใใใฐ ใใคใงใใซใผใใฎๅดใซใใฆใใใใใใญใ otten luck that fate has saddled me with you! had any choice in the matter ใใใใจใฏใใ ใฎ่
ใ็ธใชใใ ใใ! e with fate, but it has you need something, you can confide in me a way of surprising us mere mortals. Particularly ่
ใ็ธใงใ็ธใฏ็ธใ ใใ ใคใงใ่จใฃใฆใ when it comes to matters of the heart. Luna: H-hmph! The way you get all pumped up Selena: Are you really flirting with me at a time ou But... yeah thanks. You cheered me up just a little bit. that's my lot in life, eh? Thank you, Laslow. For ใกใใฃใจใ ใ ๅ
ๆฐๅบใใใ Lazwald: Cool, no problem ใฉใใใใใพใใฆใ](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/097/429/e63.png "Lazwald x Selena A support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna There's a lot of additional fluff which is impossible to reproduce for the type of character that Selena is, which is why the original chose an implied seductive stare (or ust have Lazwald show his actually shy and awkward side because Selena's attentive stare is getting to him, since it's translated as an "intense stare") Like every time it happened before, these conversations lose a lot of nuance and depth again. Selena in the localization sounds like she's angry with him just pestering other girls and hurting their feelings (Selena: I don't care what your intentions are! It's not your intentions that matter. It's how the other person feels. Do you get it yet?), while in the original, she's angry because she's giving them attention instead of her, which is what is implied in the original (and later on in the next support conversations). Selena is talking about herself when mentioning "other women" (e.g. when she mentions that it's embarrassing, when she mentions that Lazwald plays with women's hearts, etc) Lazwald becomes oblivious again, instead of accepting his "problem" (this is because of extra additions in the localization), he suddenly has no self-awareness again Besides the conversation having the same issue like some Camilla, Aqua and Nyx ones. See http:// imgur.com/x9xorBP http://imgur.com/NNjBkZd http://imgur.com/brcyRvK for reference #Torrential Downpour B Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver ใบใฏใซใ Lazwald: Hey, Luna. Looking cute as ever today! Laslow: Selena, my dove! My tired eyes are rejuvenated by the s ไปๆฅใๅฏๆใใญ! Luna: Lazwald you never learn, do you? You do know that if you keep saying whatever know, someday people are going to get sick of comes to mind like that, one day people are just all this empty flattery of yours going to stop listening to anything you say? Selena: Ugh. You never learn, do you ? You ใฉใบใฏใซใ ใใใใๆฒใใชใใใญใ ใใใใฃใฆ่ชฟๅญใฎใใใใจ่จใฃใฆใใจ ใใฎใใกใ่ชฐใซใ็ธๆใซใใใชใใชใใใ? ใฏใซ{3,0 Lazwald: What are you talking about? Al I ever Laslow: What are you talking about? I speak do is speak from the heart. y true feelings ๅใฏๅธธใซๆฌๅฟใใ่ชใใชใใใ Luna: Is that so? From the heart, huh? Selena: Really. Your true feelings, huh? [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: I really do think youre cute, Luna, is Laslow: Just so! For example, I truly feel that you are the very image of loveliness ๅใฏๆฌๅฝใซ ใซใผใใฎใใจใๅฏๆใใจๆใฃใฆใใใใ ใ? Luna: Unfortunately for you, no matter what you Selena: You know what? No. This time I'm not sa ๆฎๅฟตใ ใใฉใ ใใใใซใใใชใใจ่จใใใฆใ ใใใใฏใใ ใใใใใใใใชใใใ ใใ! ใใใ้ใซใใใใใใใใใ ใใใใใใใฆใใใใ! going to just get upset. Nope..I'm going to give It's not going to get me freaked out or flustered you a taste of your own medicine... Loverboy! In fact, Im going to do it to youu! Lazwald: Y-youre going to freak me out? ใผใๅใใใใใใใใ? re Lazwald: Luna? W-why are you staring at me Laslow: S-Selena? What are you doing? ใชใ ไฝใงๅใ่ฆใคใใใฎใ? Selena: Mmm-hmm. Momma thinks you'll do juuust fine. Let me feel those arms! Woo! Shivers! A big hunk like you is just what the healer ordered Lazwald: S-stop it, Luna.. that's incredibly embarrassing If you keep looking at me like that... I, I feel like my face is going to burst into flames Laslow: Stop it, Selena.. Please.. No! Stop! ใใใใใฆใใซใผใ ใใใ ๆฅใใใใใโฆ ใใไปฅไธ่ฆใคใใใใใ ๅใๆฌๅฝใซ้กใใ็ซใๅบใกใใใ Selena: Aw, you're adorable when you're embarrassed, Lazzy. Me likey let's go get some tea, baby. I promise it'lI [ใฉใบใฏใซใ] Lazwald: P-please . no more .. stop it already Laslow: P-please...no...more... Youre making me very uncomfortable, Selena! ใใไปฅไธใฏ ใใๆญขใใฆ lunk? Gods, I can't believe I just did that.I Lazwald: Jeez, d-did you have to put it on full Laslow: Ah...is it really that bad when I flirt? I never meant to make a Luna: Consider this your punishment! Selena: Do you get it now? Throwing out al r going around and seducing for playing ็ก้ใซๅฅณใฎๅญใๅฃ่ชฌใใฆๅใ those empty compliments isn't nice. And even if ใใใใซๅฅณๅฟใใใไนฑใใฆใใ็ฝฐใ ! sideration they were welcome, you can't just play with around with women's hearts like it's some kind people's hearts like that! Lazwald: I-I never meant to do anything like Laslow: But that was never my intention Luna: A woman's heart is a pure and delicate thing not to be trifled with! Whether you planned to do it or not is elena: I don't care what your intentions a not your intentions that matter. It's how the ใจใฆใ็น็ดฐใง็ด ใชใใฎใชใฎใ! it ou see now You t to feel all that shame a dose of your own ใใใใใจใใจๅณใใใฐใใใฎใ! ๆจๆถใคใใงใซๅฃ่ชฌใใใฆ ๆฅใใใใๆใใใใๅญใใกใฎๆฐๆใกใใญ! medicine! Now you know what it feels like when all those | girls get embarrassed by your flirtatio Laslow: OK! I'm sorry! I'll probably think about flirting do me the honor of helping me learn how. Over tea Lazwald: A-aahhow embarrassing . do ใใใใ..ๆฅใใใ ใใใชใซ่ฆใคใใชใใงใโฆใซใผใ BLANK] BLANK] im BLANK] BLANK] Laslow: Selena? Hey, I was just teasing! Come](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/097/428/b5d.png "Lazwald x Selena B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Nishiki x Aqua As described in the A conversation, the tail is still important because it's not only used as a way to "expose the fox" like in folklore, it's a way to also expose other's lies. Aqua is being dishonest about her mental and physical state (she's really tired), and the tail entrances her for the purpose of putting her to sleep. This cut line "You remain so graceful in your strong resolve to live, and yet here, only with me, you show me your weaknesses.." Pinpoints exactly the problem in this situation All of this is cut in the localization The conversation is also a lot more direct with the confession, while the original tried to escalate it The general lack of depth and general childish dialogue that is ever present in every localized dialogue is also present here, obviously #Torrentia!Downpour Translation Nintendo of America Ver. Azura: Zzz... Zzz Nishiki: You're finally sleeping well . Aqua Here I am, gazing at your sleeping face Aqua, sleeping like that. She must be exhausted you've got the look of angel when you're like Kaden: Azura looks so peaceful when she's ใใๅฏใฆใใญ ใขใฏใขใ ใใใใฆๅฏ้กใ่ฆใฆใใจ ใขใฏใขใใพใ ใใฉใใชใ้กใใใฆใใ ใใฃใฑใ่ฒใ
ใจๅคงๅคใชๆฏๆฅใ ้ใฃใฆใใใใ ใใใช You really must be dealing with so many things Nishiki: Aqua, allow me to touch your hair. Since I'm always letting you pet my tail, just this It's only fair, right? I let her touch my tail little, you won't mind, right? Kaden: I bet she won't mind if I touch her hair. ใขใฏใขใ้ซชใ่งฆใใใฆใใใใใ ใใคใใใฃใฝใ่งฆใใใฆใใใฆใใใใ ใ ใใใใใใฏใใใ ใใ? Nishiki: Aqua. good morning. You know it's Kaden: Good morning, Azura already morning, right? ใขใฏใขโฆใใฏใใใ ใใๆใ ใ? Aqua: Yeah ah! Morning!? Azura: Wha?! Good morning? Did I stay here all ใใฏใฏใ ๅใ ใใ Nishiki: Ahahaha, I'm just joking Kaden: Hahaha! No. I was just kidding Azura: Oh! I guess I drifted off again. Your tail really does make an excellent cushion. You're regular pillow again BLANK] Once again I've fallen asleep curled up around going to ruin me! I'll never be able to sleep on a ็งใพใ ใใชใใฎใใฃใฝใๆฑใใชใใ ๅฏใฆใใพใฃใฆใใใฎ? your tail again, have I? Nishiki: Yep Aqua: S-sorry! I've submitted to your kindness [BLANK] ใใใใใใชใใใ ใพใใใชใใซ็ใใฆใใพใฃใฆใใใฎใญใ again, it seems Nishiki: That's just fine. You know I don't care if Kaden: That's OK. I wouldn't mind. Actually,I'd But more than that, I want to see your sleeping like it if you slept next to me all the time ใใฏใฏใใใชใใจๆฐใซใใชใใใใญใ ใใใใใใญใใฎๅฏ้กใ ใใฃใจ่ฆใฆใใใใฃใใชใ face next to me from now on I could gaze at your face until the morning Aqua: S-stop with the... weird jokes Nishiki: Does it sound like a joke to you? ใใใใๆใซใชใใพใงใญใ [BLANK] ใกใใ ใกใใฃใจๆญขใใฆโฆๅคใชๅ่ซใฏ BLANK Nishiki: I love you, Aqua Kaden: Azura, I'm so in love with you. I could ใใฏใฏใขใฏใขใๅฅฝใใ ใ ๅผทใ็ใใใใจๅใจใใฆใใชใใใ remain so graceful in your strong resolve to watch you sleep every night. I know you havea live, and yet here only with me, you show me ใใใ lot on your shoulders with. But at least I can be your soft place to fall Won't you stay with me forever? things I cant help you ใฆ ses ๅผฑใใจใใใใใฏใ ใใซ่ฆใใฆใใใใญใ can ใพใใชใๆใใใใใ BLANK Nishiki: You probably bear a grand fate far greater than any I can imagine And I think surely there's nothing thing I can do or you, nothing I can give you But I do think I can provide that place of peace BLANK ใญใใฏใใฃใจใใฏใซใฏๆณๅใใคใใชใใใ ๅคงใใช้ๅฝใ่่ฒ ใฃใฆใใใใ ใใใญใ ใใฏใซใฏใใฃใจใใใใใฉใใใฆใใใใใจ ใ foryou to re ใงใใญใใใใใใฆๅฎใใใๅ ดๆใใใใฏ Will you join me ไฝใใใจๆใใใ ใฏ ใใใ็งใใใชใใฎใใจใๅฅฝใใใ ใใใชใซๅฟใๅฎใใใชๆฐๆใกใซใชใใ Aqua: Nishiki thank you. Yes, I do love you Azura: Oh, my! Kaden, if I had my choice, I'd When I'm with you, I feel like I can truly be at home! So I want to be by your side from now on, if never leave your side! You make me feel so at ใ ใใใใใใใใใชใใฎ้ฃใซใใใใฆ? ou me Nishiki: Yes, of course. I'll be yours and yours Kaden: Then it's settled. You can have me all to alone foreve yourself...always ใใฃใจใใฏใ็ฌใๅ ใใใฆใใใใ ใฏ Aqua: Yes, Nishiki [An element of the trance Azura: You have no idea how wonderful that magic is present in this line]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/094/833/430.png "Aqua x Nishiki S support conversation")
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![Fire Emblem Fates - Kamui x Charlotte In the Japanese version, the character's avatar's personality would reflect whomever they chose to get close to, giving the player some agency in choosing how they wanted to characterize them, instead, the localization does not feature this when choosing Charlotte Charlotte's a character which wears a mask all the time, to hide her true personality of someone manipulative and foul mouthed. Primarily, she's nicer but also sexually aggressive in her pretend character. Kamui in the original notices this later on (recurring throughout the supports), and expresses aversion towards her pretend character's sexual aggression, this was completelyr sed in the localization, instead having him claim that her mask is frail and weak, most likely because of a misconception The localization suffers in noticing the differences in the Japanese language (the likely reason for the misconception), there are vocabulary mistakes, especially in the way Charlotte expresses herself, toning down her true personality. E.g. see http://i.imgur.com/RBaKXfw.png Overall, the support featured a more intimate and amicable relationship, the localization, because of the several alterations, took out such feeling #Torrential Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver ใญใใ:ใฉใใใใฎใใใใใชใๅผใณๅบใ| Charlotte: What's with you? Calling me out o Charlotte: Why the sudden summons? e blue Kamui: I thought I'd follow in your lead and spit Corrin: After our last conversation, I thought I'd ใซใ ใค:ๅใๅใ่ฆ็ฟใฃใฆใๅฟใใใใๅบใใใจ out everything I've been thinking. So from now ๆใฃใฆใญใๅใฏไปใใ ่ชๅใๅฝใใใจใชใใๆฌon I'm going to tell you my true feelings ๅฝใฎๆฐๆใกใ่จใ try opening up a bit, like you. There is some real value in being honest, and I'd like to do that without lying to myself Charlotte:What the f---? I love Y ใทใฃใผใญใใ:ใฏ?ใชใใชใฎใใ ไธไฝใ Charlotte:I am...very confused right now Corrin: What I'm trying to say is... I love you Charlotte: What?! Milord, you're speaking crazy ใซใ ใค ๅใๅฅฝใใ ใฏใใฏใ! ?ใใใใ้ ญCharlotte: lobotomy? The f---? Did you geta talk. You need to see a healer i: I'm just fine Corrin: I'm perfectly fine, Charlotte Charlotte: S-stop screwing around with people's Charlotte: If you are in your right mind, then heads like that! ใทใฃใผใญใใ:ใฒใ ไบบใ้ฆฌ้นฟใซใใใฎใใใๅ ๆธ you should know how rude it is to mock people Kamui: I'm not screwing around or making fun Corrin: I'm not making fun of you! I'm very ใซใ ใค:้ฆฌ้นฟใซใชใใฆใใฆใ Charlotte: But. you're talking about me? Me! Charlotte: We...we did talk about how my Not only do I have a filthy mouth and a bad personality, but I'm a woman who chops dwn actually an aggressive, tree- smashing girl? trees with my bare hands!? ็งใ?็งใชใฎใ! ?0% ใช ใทใฃใผใญใใ:ใ ใฃใฆ helpless-woman thing is an act, right? How I'm ใซใ ใค:ใใใช่จใๆนใฏใใใชใใใ Kamui: You shouldn't talk about yourself like Corrin: Heh, didn't you say the wind blew that tree over? Charlotte: B-but, that's what I am Charlotte: Shut up-you know that was a lie. My point is, I wasn't honest with you before. How can you trust me? ใซใ ใค:่ฃ่กจใใใใฃใฆใใใฎใๆฐใซใใใฎใฏๅคKamui: It's a little weird to get all bent out of ใ ใใ่ชฐใใใใใใ้จๅใๆใฃใฆใใใใ shape about the difference in who you are and ใญใใจใซใใๅใฏๅใฎไบบ้ใใใใจใใใๅฅฝwhat you show to the world. Everyone deals Corrin: I think I'd be worried about the kind of person I am if your secrets bothered me | Everyone has something they'd rather not show with that. In any case, the very fact that you're to the world. You're human, Charlotte. And the so real and human is what I lov are anese sounds for when | Charlotte: * sniff * sniff * dy starting crying] ใซใ ใค:ใฉใใใใฎ? Kamui: What's wrong? somethin wrong Charlotte: [Japanese onomatopoeia for when BLANK] somebody starts sobbing uncontrollably] ใซใ ใค:ใใใใใ!? Kamui: Whaaat the helll BLANK] Charlotte: The tears the tears just won't stop Charlotte: The tears... They won't stop!! And in ใใใฏๆฌๅฝใฎๆถใ ใใ ไธ็ฌใงๆถใๆตใใใฏใใใฏใฏๆใฃใฆใใ coming! Oh, I should let you know that these case you weren't sure, these are genuine tears are real tears, okay? I know how to ใฆใใใใฉ ry on Sure, I can cry on command, but this is - ใญใ command, but this is different. Believe me ใซใ ใค:ใใใฃใฆใใ ใใใฃใฆใใใ it. it. Corrin: I believe you, but...why are you crying? ๆฌๅฝใซ็งใชใใใงใใใฎ? Charlotte: But would you really be happy with Charlotte: Because hearing you say that is one of the nicest things I've ever heard... And I've gotten about me. But...are you sure you want to be ใญใใ:ใงใ me thing ใซใ ใค:ใใใๅ
จ็ถใ ๅคงไธๅคซใ I am completely sure. I th ver BLANK] BLANK] Kamui: I think it'd be fun if I were you Everyday would be full of surprises ๆฅฝใใใใ ใใ ๆฏๆฅใๅบ ใใช ใฆ็ธๅฝใชๅคใใชCharlotte You're some kind of a weirdo, Charlotte: Corrin I'm not entirely sure you know what? ใซใ ใค:ใใใญใใงใใใใฃใกใฎๆนใใใใจๆใKamui: Maybe I am. But I still think you're the ใใๅคใใ่
ๅๅฃซใฎใซใใใซใชใๆฐธ้ ใซไธ็ทใซ one for me. We can be weirdos in love who | Corrin: That could be true, hahah. But if so, isn't that a good thing? Two people, crazy and in love, could never tire of each other never get tired of each other, whaddya think? Thanks, Kamui. I'm nothing Charlotte: . You might be right. Thank you ใคใคใ่
ใงใใใๆซๆฐธใใใใใใ้กใใใพ ใใฏๆฌ้ณใชใใ ใใใญ! ally, but here's to a long life together. I-I'm Corrir ใซใ ใค:ใใใ ใใใฃใฆใใใ ใใกใใใใ ใใ Kamui: Yeah, I get it. From me to you, here's to [BLANK]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/091/828/0cc.png "Charlotte x Kamui significant S support alterations")
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