Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
If I knew what their exact terms are I'd be quicker to make up my mind
Maybe someone should send a diplomat to talk about that and know their terms.
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Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
If I knew what their exact terms are I'd be quicker to make up my mind
Maybe someone should send a diplomat to talk about that and know their terms.
Done. Hopefully they'll send my diplomats back in one peice
Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
Done. Hopefully they'll send my diplomats back in one peice
If they don't, the Levantine Republic and Dathuastan will be right here by your side.
Due to the historical speed of the turns (hundreds of years at a time), it is necessary to give a response to your diplomat's questions before the next turn occurs.
Should you surrender to the Persians and incorporate your armies into theirs, they will be extremely lenient. The worst thing that will happen to you is taxes and levied troops. Your current rulers will be named the Satraps of your province.
Should you resist and fail to defeat them, they will massacre your ruling elite, replacing them with either Persians or notable locals. Your slave population is likely to be emancipated as well. Persia views itself as a protector of conquered peoples, and will try to liberate the oppressed in your nation. Your government will change to a Satrapy.
In both situations you will continue to play the game, just as a province rather than an independent nation. It is very possible that the Persian Empire will fall apart without Alexander the Great (who does not exist in this timeline) but that may have much to do with who surrenders and what success the Persian armies have in the future.
I would like you to know also that Persia, at this time in history, controlled nearly half of the entire planet's population. The size of their armies are unfathomable; Herodotus claims that the army of Xerxes at Thermopylae consisted of two and a half million soldiers, although it is much more likely that it was only a few hundred thousand men. This is still titanic compared to the Greek forces, which numbered no more than ten or twenty thousand. Anybody who does not have significant terrain advantages and an age-old elite land force is going to have a very bad time fighting Persia.
I have to go busy for a few hours. I'll try to get my post in by 4PM MST.
This conflict right now:
Seeing as war is inevitable and my people have no qualms with most of it, I'll lend any amount of ships or weapons to those who have become victims of aggressors, disregarding the Kolkar, Minoa, and Persian of course.
A transformer in my neighborhood blew out so I might have some trouble being here. I'm currently typing this on my IPad.
I would just like to add that anyone considering fighting against Persia is taking an enormous risk. To be blunt, the chances of you defeating Persia are minuscule and should they defeat you, you will loose much more than just a little sovereignty.
In the end it is your own decision but I have to strongly advise against aggressive action against the Persians.
Compliance is looking like the better option now. If BSoD complies, so will I.
First off that transformer problem of mines is fixed and as for the Persians I'm starting to lean towards complying to them. But of course I'm going to see what is going to happen before I make my final decision.
Okay, here's my plan. We surrender to Persia. When they've established the government in our countries, we meet up somewhere and discuss about resisting the Persians and start an uprising. Is that good a plan? Probably not…
Also, my country needs armor and weapons in exchange for the finest warships we have.
Soviet Marmalade wrote:
Okay, here's my plan. We surrender to Persia. When they've established the government in our countries, we meet up somewhere and discuss about resisting the Persians and start an uprising. Is that good a plan? Probably not…
Also, my country needs armor and weapons in exchange for the finest warships we have.
An uprising would be worse than a war because of a couple reasons, the main one being that the Persians would already have a military and political presence in our countries.
Besides, you’re not in any real danger yet until me and BSoD decide to submit or get destroyed.
Anyone have any ideas on how to deal with the Slavic? I totally forgot about them… Which is bad…
Soviet Marmalade wrote:
Anyone have any ideas on how to deal with the Slavic? I totally forgot about them… Which is bad…
Well you'd better figure it out soon. I bet a turn will be posted in the next couple hours.
The next turn will be 26 hours from now, in case some of you are still making major decisions and need to send edits due to recent revelations. Also, I am getting better, although yesterday was hell, and I expect to be healthy again tomorrow. Regular daily turns will continue then.
also im suspended lololol
Hmm…I guess I may have been overzealous in my willingness to help and not realizing what danger was at hand. I retract my statement to help those under fire from the Persians. Anyone else is still able to regularly trade or receive aid. The Persians are a massive thread I do not wish to anger.
Soviet Marmalade wrote:
Anyone have any ideas on how to deal with the Slavic? I totally forgot about them… Which is bad…
Maybe get some ground troops and line them up at the border. Might help.
All this waiting is making me reconsider complying with the Persians. I need an answer from BSoD real soon.
There are a lot of mountains in the Levant and Anatolia that could come in handy, but it’s best that I don’t try my chances.
And Tillster, considering that even doing so much as bordering them might incur their wrath, trying to isolate yourself isn't going to save you. Of course considering that winning a war against the Persians is a pipe dream, I don't see why I should be stating this.
From the sounds of things we don't have much choice here. The games rather stacked against us. We have to play by Persia's rules.
Editing my turn to comply with Persia
Well I finally made my decision with the Persian dilemma and by turn 5 you will all know which option I picked (though at this point I think most of you know which option I picked).
You may only write up to seven lines of orders from now on. This turn was very hectic to write and took too long. Some of you (nearly half!) write a whole wall of text each turn and they just keep getting bigger with each turn. I understand that you are possibly getting very excited and involved in the game, and that is great, but this will negatively impact the quality of the turn as I try to condense your actions into smaller paragraphs and spend more time on you than other players. The seven line restriction may be further restricted or even expanded in the future, depending upon how things go.
If you feel that your people's cultural specifics cannot be sufficiently expressed through seven lines, feel free to write about them in the thread. It may not end up in the turn but hey, at least it gets out there and is added to the life of the thread, right?
Mr. Stalker
Lok-Lod
Government: Tribal Kratocracy
Culture: The Fights, Talion Law, Lord of the Arena, Death Matches, Blood God
Economy: Maritime Mercantile
Military: Large Navy, Elite Longbowmen, Blood-Berserks
Levantine Republic
Stalemate
Government: Republican Satrapy
Culture:
Economy: Agrarian
Military:
Dathuastan
Soviet Marmalade
Government: Despotic Satrapy
Culture: Floating Homes, Ship Builders, Tide God
Economy: Maritime Mercantile
Military: Large Fleet, Conscription, Corsvaires Order
Doon
Laud Piestrings
Government: Tribal Confederacy
Culture: Talion Law, Tedizm, Tundra Living, Ice Structures, Gender Equality
Economy: Agrarian
Military: Specialist Weapons, Eits Spy Network
Polis
Sergeant Arch Dornan
Government: Tribal Republic
Culture: Solairism, Turtle Status
Economy: Coastal Agrarian
Military: Massive Small-Boat Fleet, Sun Warrior Fanatics
Vakun
You Are Reading This
Government: Tribal Despotism
Culture: Megalith Temples, Tengriism Faith
Economy: Palace
Military: Legions, Coast Guard Quadremes
Mac Tíre-Madra
Spider-Byte
Government: Tribal Confederation
Culture: Sacred Dogs
Economy:
Military: Warrior Society
Ovo
Twisty
Government: Tribal Republic
Culture: God Questing
Economy: Maritime Mercantile
Military: Large Longboat Navy, Austere Elites, Siege Ships
Monarchy of Roses
Tchefuncte Bonaparte
Government: Tribal Despotism
Culture: Warrior Poets, Gender Equality
Economy:
Military: Merchant Marine
Zellania
Naschzaube Maus
Government: Elected Dictatorship
Culture: Tide God, Bakuki Theater, Hostage Nobles
Economy: City-State Maritime Mercantile
Military: Specialist Fleet
Flashpoints: Slavic Settlers
Naval Monte
CrowTheMagician
Government: Constitutional Republic
Culture: Totemic Rites, Gender Equality, Infinity Faith
Economy: Coastal Agrarian
Military: Large Galley Fleet, Meritocracy, Elite Horse Archers, Shadow Men
Kingdom of Riveria
Crimeariver
Government: Tribal Despotism
Culture: Dendrolatry, Spruceborn Faith
Economy: Agrarian, Mercantile
Military: Mob Army, Fortified Alps, Civic Duty Archers
Kebab and it's Kebabists just made me chuckle uncontrollably. The chuckle turned into a laugh pretty much.
Damnit. I didn't mean the guy to be a dictatorial lord. Fek. I wanted my country to be a monarchy. Politics is hard.
No writeup on Syserror?
Well I can see from the image that the Cyprus expansion went well. Sorry about that Stalemate. Furthermore, I am now Persia's bitch. But still that' according to plan. Nothing I can do but wait Persia out now I guess. Not sure where I stand politically or economically
>NPC made out of Dathustan rejects spawns out of nowhere and cockblocks my northern expansion
Kekkety kek. Now I don't know how the rest of my plans went but I'm positive that I've pissed Syndic off at some point
Thr-
THREE FUCKERS?!
First, we have the DOG Humpers
Second, we have Corpse Fuckers
And Third, we have… Honestly the only honorable one.
No I am, I really am fine with this… More blood for god. The thing is those Dog Humpers got more land out of it. For them I say, get ready for the revolt. Oh and that so called "warrior" society, where is it? I mean my people had arenas, Blood wanting, WARRIOR LORDS, yet I don't have this "warrior" society, cause what you have is not a "warrior" society, it's a pathetic society.
Now the Corpse Humpers is the one that mystifies me, they attacked me while they had a civil war, Hilarious.
And Ovo, honestly if Ovo asked me to fight for them I would have.
i dont really ally with someone whos first reaction to not getting something he wants are loud threats
we simply agreed you were too unstable.
>tfw no update on muh swords
@Tillster & BSOD
Somehow you guys got cut off and I only copied down to Riveria. Oops. I did say that turn was hectic to write, didn't I? Anyway, here is your stuff:
States of the Rising Sword
TillsterRulz
Government: Tribal Confederation
Culture: Honor, Meritocratic Mystery Cults, Meritocracy
Economy: Agrarian, Mining Towns
Military: Quinqueremes, Berserks, Bonfire Watchtowers
Syserror
Butterscotch (of Death)
Government: Elected Dual Dictatorship Satrapy
Culture: Kebab Faith
Economy: Maritime Mercantile
Military: Military Schooling
Flashpoints: Slavic Settlers
on a different setting
persia is fucking scaring me, they already broke trough most of europe and are pretty much gonna engulf us
and i got the dread horde on my left ALSO trying to engulf me.
shit i dont think i can hold off both
Boy the Persians are quick in their conquest, I was expecting to last at least one more turn so that way I can send in a diplomat to join them more peacefully but at last I didn't do that. Oh well at least everything else went somewhat according to plan (the shadow people men could be a problem down the line but for now let's see where things go with).
Might as well be the first to write down some cultural aspect of my nation down in the thread. The Shadow Men (who despite the name does allow women in) are based on both the Arabic Hashshashin or Assassin order and the Japanese ninjas. So all the stuff that both groups do they do (though they don't have supernatural powers nor do they collect pieces of eden or take hash). While it's true that they will kill someone who is a threat inside Naval Monte the chances of them killing you for idealogical reasons or low since they are more focused on taking out would be assassins from taking out their leaders. Of course even with that truth that isn't going to stop people being afraid of them.
Just a heads up for everyone in western Europe. I'm going to submit to the Persians and offer them passage through the mountains under the condition that they deal with the dread horde. If they decline this offer then it's very possible that they'll try to conquer Riveria by force,and they may eventually succeed but they're gonna have a hell of a bad time trying.
@ Soviet Marmalade
> monarchy
> rule by one
> dictator
> rule by one
I thought they were almost synonyms of each other.
@CrowTheMagician
Since everybody in the path of Persia either surrendered or simply did not respond to the attack, Persia was able to get much further than they did historically. Furthermore, as Macedon was colonized by Zellania and the rest of Greece was ravaged by war, neither Alexander the Great and the Greek city-states were able to come into existence. The former died as a poor farmer and the latter simply never grew large enough to have professional armies or a military culture unique from Zellania or Minoa.
If everybody keeps surrendering to Persia, only the Huns will be able to bring them down, and that is likely only in Europe. The rest of you would have to wait until the Mongols showed up to gain your freedom.
Due to their rapid conquests, I can safely say Persia is likely to die by attrition rather than force.
You Are Reading This wrote:
Due to their rapid conquests, I can safely say Persia is likely to die by attrition rather than force.
They also aren't going to gain much from holding me either since I don't have a standing army. I'll be able to provide them with assistance whenever they're fighting inside my borders but other than that they only thing they'll get from me is taxes.
Crimeariver wrote:
They also aren't going to gain much from holding me either since I don't have a standing army. I'll be able to provide them with assistance whenever they're fighting inside my borders but other than that they only thing they'll get from me is taxes.
Mismanagement and corrupt politicians may also be a problem, and rapid expansion would cause many problems to surface from over-extension. If they grow too rapidly, they could decline in efficiency, which would be a good time to orchestrate disasters in Persia do bring the empire to its knees.
eh, fuck it, im resisting persia
@You are reading this:
Considering that in Persia's history there were several civil wars fought for who would be the king them falling apart from the inside is very likely. Also the problems that you mentioned about rapid expansion is the reason why I stopped mines, I want to live long enough to either reach the end or close to it.
On that note sorry for advance if my army get's used against you guys.
So about them Persians. Anyone who doesn't want to be under their rule anymore (which I imagine is pretty much everyone) should resist them or start an uprising or whatever this turn. I can't go into details but just know that there is a plan, and the more people who fight against Persia the better.
How do I remove bastani and vodka?
Always Right wrote:
How do I remove bastani and vodka?
…Get kebabs?
I'm just to wait out Persians for now and just welcome them.
You know depending on which king is ruling Persia infighting within the empire will be coming in shortly. I said before that Persia has had civil wars and true some of them were nations that were satrapies but the worst civil wars were the ones fought for being kings cause some of the kings in Persia never named their succors (Cyrus and Xerxes comes to mind).
Also I have to say that I made a mistake with Persia. I said that they had the whole eye for an eye thing, for some reason in that moment I was thinking of Hammurabi for a short moment when I was typing about the Persians and that sunk through and I didn't realize the mistake until hindsight. Well it goes to show that no every source is a hundred percent correct and that everyone can make mistakes even when they feel confident at a certain subject.
But other than that one mess up the rest that I have been saying about Persia are true.
Has Monarchy of Roses closed the path towards the Atlantic? If so, I'd would like to pass by and finally settle on far away lands.
Soviet Marmalade wrote:
Has Monarchy of Roses closed the path towards the Atlantic? If so, I'd would like to pass by and finally settle on far away lands.
I too would like to know the answer to this question as well.
Soviet Marmalade wrote:
Has Monarchy of Roses closed the path towards the Atlantic? If so, I'd would like to pass by and finally settle on far away lands.
Considering that we're in an era where we have barely passable sailing technology, I would like to see you try. I'm even amazed by the fact that Ovo somehow managed to make it all the way to Greenland in what would have basically been a pimped out row-boat.
Crimeariver wrote:
Considering that we're in an era where we have barely passable sailing technology, I would like to see you try. I'm even amazed by the fact that Ovo somehow managed to make it all the way to Greenland in what would have basically been a pimped out row-boat.
Well the Vikings were able to reach the Americas in long boats so it wouldn't be too surprising for Ovo to reach Greenland.
Travelling between Iceland, Greenland was exactly how the Vikings managed to get into Canada.
Persia is basically expanding by taking hostages, forming and army of those hostages and then using that army of hostages to take more hostages which is then uses to reinforce its hostages.
Eventually there will be a point when all the hostages realize they outnumber the kidnapper. Persia has to fall apart at some point.
Until I see such a weakness though, I'm not sure what I can do about my situation. You guys by all means resist but with my forces in their control; I'll have to think of something cleverer.
Now about these Slavs. Their advance was intimidating, but they're no organised military. They're a bunch of settlers that just displace other settlers. I don't think they're prepared to deal with a real invasion force.
Nobody removes my Kebabs and gets away with it…
Crimeariver wrote:
Considering that we're in an era where we have barely passable sailing technology, I would like to see you try. I'm even amazed by the fact that Ovo somehow managed to make it all the way to Greenland in what would have basically been a pimped out row-boat.
I wasn't planning to. Yet.
No it haven't closed of the Straight of Gibraltar.
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