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Last posted Aug 18, 2017 at 12:21AM EDT. Added Dec 24, 2014 at 01:28AM EST
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-Steam Greenlight (R.I.P) is not necessary a bad thing. Sure, it did open the floodgate and allowed deranged developpers who tried to sue 100 random Steam users, but there was a lot of good indie that went there. Heck, even Undertale was a Greenlight game. People who mostly focused on the bad, such as Jim Sterling, didn't help its reputation.

The lunch of Steam Direct will be an interesting thing to follow.

Steam Direct will eventually end up like Greenlight. Even though a 100$ bill might help against asset-flippers, this still will not stop others from creating a loophole through their patreons/loans/"borrowed" money/etc.

For the Guardian of Time, Dahaka: This will be kinda off but your remark on controversy is not an unpopular opinion but a well-known fact since the modern media exist. A very true not-many-time said fact (in my opinion).

Sorry for being Cpt. Obvious in here…

DAHAKA persico wrote:

- If a game or movie needs a controversy to sell then you have zero faith in the product or is terrible.

- Marvel vs Capcom Infinite looks terrible and if the roster leak is real i will be disappoint.

I don't think the second one is a unpopular opinion anymore thanks to the reveal of Dragon Ball FighterZ. People are starting to compare the two in terms of look and gameplay…with most saying that DBFZ looks to be the better of the two. Oh, and the MVCI roster leak is more than true at this point. Look at the latest additions to the roster in the new trailer…oh God….

Chaoticus wrote:

I don't think the second one is a unpopular opinion anymore thanks to the reveal of Dragon Ball FighterZ. People are starting to compare the two in terms of look and gameplay…with most saying that DBFZ looks to be the better of the two. Oh, and the MVCI roster leak is more than true at this point. Look at the latest additions to the roster in the new trailer…oh God….

Well, MvCI revealed Zero from Megaman X as a playable character, and Zero wasn't in that leak…not confirming the leak is false, but there is a really tiny chance of that. I still have to agree, things are very shaky for MvCI in terms of the look and roster--the gameplay isn't too bad from what I've seen. Won't deny though, DBFZ is a lot better.

When I was a kid, I really liked Star Wars. I watched the movies, had plenty of action figures, and played the games. But things changed, and not just the prequels being terrible. I didn't watch Clone Wars or Rebels. It's been years since I played a Star Wars game or watched the original trilogy. The Force Awakens and Rogue One left me feeling lukewarm and I have no excitment for The Last Jedi. Even when Carrie Fisher died, I couldn't personalize it enough to be sad. It's starting to dawn on me that maybe I just don't care about Star Wars anymore.

Trails Series > Ys Series

Now, don't get me wrong. Ys is a bunch of pretty damn good and fun games, but I do feel these aren't Falcom's best work. And sure, Trails may lack in the gameplay department a bit but it makes up for it with quite witty dialogue, likable characters , well done (if a bit cliche) stories and a really detailed world to it.

What I'm going to say may sound as pure heresy but I prefer Quake in terms of gameplay than Doom.I'm talking about Quake 1,while in level design I prefer Doom.
I think they're great in everything they do.
I love the lovecraftian theme of Quake and I love the track of Doom.
I don't think that one of these is better than the other one.

Vaderzlk11 wrote:

Steam Direct will eventually end up like Greenlight. Even though a 100$ bill might help against asset-flippers, this still will not stop others from creating a loophole through their patreons/loans/"borrowed" money/etc.

CALLED IT

I don't really hate Hillary Clinton. I don't really like her, and I think she was a shit candidate, but the way the internet talks about her, you'd think she eats special-needs children alive in her spare time. I mean, I've seen a lot of shit candidates, but no matter how terrible they are, you'll always see some whackos incessantly commenting about how they're America's only hope. I've never seen anyone's support drowned out the way hers was.

I suppose it comes down to the demographics of the internet. She's kind of everything most of us hate, really.

Notch is an enormous jerkoff.

Regardless of his politics, he's a bazillionaire who thinks oh so highly of himself for insulting people on Twitter. Oh, you called someone who disagrees with you on the Internet a cunt, how brave!

I fuckin' insult people on the Internet too, and you don't see me being hailed as a hero for it.

I don't know if this a unpopular opinion or not.
Just becuase a movie,book or show is about sensitive subject ( example: suicide or cyberbullying) doesn't mean you have force yourself to like it or is immune to criticism.
I found Steven universe boring despite giving a chance.
I'm tired of these spiritual sucessors of P.T. becuase they aren't original and trying to cling the fame of P.T.

I don't think people have been fair with Anita sarks. I don't agree with her but I think she's been treated very unfairly from the get go.

She treated Boogie unfairly too during Vidcon (yelling at someone with anxiety disorder and having low-key tokenism over him being fat).

DAHAKA persico wrote:

I don't know if this a unpopular opinion or not.
Just becuase a movie,book or show is about sensitive subject ( example: suicide or cyberbullying) doesn't mean you have force yourself to like it or is immune to criticism.
I found Steven universe boring despite giving a chance.
I'm tired of these spiritual sucessors of P.T. becuase they aren't original and trying to cling the fame of P.T.

That first point pretty much describes how I feel about Evangelion. I get that Shinji suffers through severe depression, but even so I found him (and Asuka) quite irritating while the other characters (except Misato) are rather dull.
I think Evangelionis not bad, but I still find it quite boring; I've seen other shows that handle such situations much better.

some 90's comics were not bad
i liked some Nu-Metal songs and bands
CWC trolling crosses the line since a long time
im interested in moe anime
limited animation is not bad sometimes in cartoons or anime

Dark themes in fiction doesn't automatically make something better, more mature, or worse than normal fiction. Edgy or dark stuff isn't bad as long as it fits the themes of the fiction, but it's bad when it's unnecessarily forced in.

Even worse if proper research isn't done by the writer/artist, like mis-representing or mis-understanding mental illness and other sensitive subjects to fuel the plot.

Let's go into more unpopular political opinions again, because I hate Trump and the current views on politics!

-The "Democrats are still losing because they haven't changed at all and haven't shifted left" meme is annoying. I mean, people pretty much threw them under the bus last election because they weren't exciting enough and thought they were the same as the Republicans because "they took money from corporate donors" (such a huge false equivalency), refusing to vote and letting the Republicans win. They probably thought that Trump would be so bad that the Democrats would have to shift leftward and get a better message, right? Nope! Democrats are still struggling, Republicans have only gotten worse and worse, and people are still repeating the same shit over and over from before the election! I mean, it was worth giving power to a party that is hostile to minorities, workers' and women's rights, consumer protections, and the environment to teach the Democrats a lesson for not being interesting and pure enough, as well as not listening to Bernie Sanders, right? On the bright side, I'm glad there's people getting involved in activism to resist Trump and the Republicans' agenda, but at the same time, still seeing people reject Democrats for not being good enough reminds me that they didn't learn a thing from the election (much like how they accuse Democrats of not learning anything from the election, though they're probably right to an extent).

-Bernie Sanders is all talk, no action. It's easy to promise stuff like free college and free healthcare when you don't have to make any plans for it and instead posture yourself as pure for promising this stuff when no other candidate does due to how complicated and difficult it is (I mean, it's just because of their corporate donors, right? /s). 30 years in Congress, and he hasn't done anything significant. I mean seriously, who heard of him before the 2016 election?

-The DNC didn't rig the democratic primary for Clinton. Old stuff, but still.

-Political apathy is dangerous, It's what allowed Trump and Republicans to get in power in the first place (and become even more awful). People need to realize that, and it seems like they haven't fully realized that yet.

-Hillary should have won.

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I haven't seen the Star Wars prequels, but from what I've seen, Jar Jar Binks isn't THAT bad. Sure, he's stupid, but the hate for him seems pretty overblown. That may change once I've seen the prequels, though, but for now, not that bad.

The NES is overrated. Sure, it helped popularize gaming, but 8-bit is just boring. The SNES is where it's at. The SNES era was Nintendo's golden era.

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-Political apathy is dangerous, It’s what allowed Trump and Republicans to get in power in the first place (and become even more awful). People need to realize that, and it seems like they haven’t fully realized that yet.

Because of your post, I'm going to start caring about politics. I'll do this by being apathetic purely out of spite instead of apathy.

Since its 28 pages in this has probably already been said, but, i think call of duty is a good franchise and not at all as bad as people claim it to be.


Mod edit: Typo was bugging me, sorry.

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HolyCrapItsBob wrote:

-Political apathy is dangerous, It’s what allowed Trump and Republicans to get in power in the first place (and become even more awful). People need to realize that, and it seems like they haven’t fully realized that yet.

Because of your post, I'm going to start caring about politics. I'll do this by being apathetic purely out of spite instead of apathy.

OK.

Anyways…

-Artificial cherry tastes better than actual cherries.

-That old PSP Squirrels commerical (This one), while bad, isn't as terrible as people say it is.

Snickerway wrote:

Notch is an enormous jerkoff.

Regardless of his politics, he's a bazillionaire who thinks oh so highly of himself for insulting people on Twitter. Oh, you called someone who disagrees with you on the Internet a cunt, how brave!

I fuckin' insult people on the Internet too, and you don't see me being hailed as a hero for it.

Honestly I'm starting to agree with this. The guy seems so full of himself whenever I read a tweet from him that I can't help but go "geez you've just turned into a stereotypical rich guy now haven't you?" Like rather than being happy he's a guy whose passion project turned into a game a lot of kids and adults enjoy, his attitude comes off feeling more like "I'm rich, fuck off, I don't give a shit about anyone or anything."

Like yeah I know, "money can't buy happiness," but as someone with a huge passion for gaming I'd be fucking ecstatic if a game I made became this huge sensation, while Notch seems like he doesn't give a single shit about what he created and how it's touched the lives of certain people, especially kids. This is why I want more people to look up to game creators like Shigeru Miyamoto, he actually cares about his creations and loves seeing the impact they have on people.

I guess if anything that's what really bothers me about Notch, not his politics or his sometimes overly arrogant attitude, it's that he's a game creator who made something huge but he doesn't give a single fuck about what he's made and the audience that enjoys it.

@Mistress Fortune

I've got something that seems like an unpopular opinion around here, it was hinted at with my previous post and your post only feeds it more.


I don't think people should feel obligated to give a shit about anything.

Regarding the Notch thing, why would it matter? If he doesn't care, he doesn't care. At what point in game development does a person need to force himself to care about things that just don't really matter to them?

If I create something and that something changes the lives of everyone involved and they won't stop sending me letters about it (already a complete nuisance), I'd be using them to warm my house. I suppose I would have to thank them for saving me money on heating.

There is no obligation in life to care about anything outside of yourself. Hell, there's barely even an obligation to care about yourself. And I'll be damned if I let someone force an obligation another person never signed up for.

HolyCrapItsBob wrote:

@Mistress Fortune

I've got something that seems like an unpopular opinion around here, it was hinted at with my previous post and your post only feeds it more.


I don't think people should feel obligated to give a shit about anything.

Regarding the Notch thing, why would it matter? If he doesn't care, he doesn't care. At what point in game development does a person need to force himself to care about things that just don't really matter to them?

If I create something and that something changes the lives of everyone involved and they won't stop sending me letters about it (already a complete nuisance), I'd be using them to warm my house. I suppose I would have to thank them for saving me money on heating.

There is no obligation in life to care about anything outside of yourself. Hell, there's barely even an obligation to care about yourself. And I'll be damned if I let someone force an obligation another person never signed up for.

"Hell there's barely any obligation to care about yourself."

That… legit just sounds like straight up nihilism.

And well I'd like to think that if you spend years making something and that something finds a wide audience, shouldn't you at least feel grateful that people care? This reminds me of a recent "beef" between Corey Taylor of Slipknot (and Stone Sour) and Chester Bennigton of Linkin Park, though the context is admittedly different. Bennigton said he wants people to stop caring about Linkin Park's older work and "move the fuck on" already, while Taylor said "you should really choose your words carefully and not piss off the people who have been loyal fans for this long, you should feel grateful they still enjoy your older material."

I apologize if this is starting to get way too off topic though, I'll probably stop here.

While I couldn't say it's definite, Super Paper Mario is one of my least favourite games of all time.

I know a lot of people really do like this game. And if you do, good for you. Glad to see that someone enjoys something I don't but I digress.

And to make sure this comment doesn't become super lengthy and will eventually waste someones time, my main problems generally go towards its story, gameplay and level design.

Having this opinion typically made me infamous in my group of friends and named me "the guy with the bad opinions" based off this one.

The fact that both Linkin Park and Nickelback are always the butt of all jokes. People call LP edgy emo cringe-music and Nickelback is being called bad outright.
Personally I don't like Nickelback too much because I think the lead singer sounds constipated and a lot of their songs simply don't appeal to me or sound too generic for my tastes. But they're by FAR not the worst band in history. I get that some folks say it ironically, but the joke has become overused and stale.
Linkin Park though is quite good, so I really don't understand how they get so much hate. Either they're mainstream sell-outs for the hipster crowd who liked their earlier music or they're edgy angsty wannabes for the easy listening crowd who always disliked their songs back then cuz "Craaaawliiiing iiiiin myy skiiiiiiin!".
I guess there's enough reasons to not like them, but people simply give them too much flak.

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The Jet Gun in Tranzit is AWESOME
Smurfs are NOT communist
Hitler jokes are funny as hell
SPAM (canned meat) is delicious
I have a crush on Smurfblossom

Double standards are the only reason a certain pair of users aren't banned yet. Pretty sure they might know who they are.

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MiloticExalted wrote:

Double standards are the only reason a certain pair of users aren't banned yet. Pretty sure they might know who they are.

favoritism is excellent for people with authority ain't it?

Farm Zombie wrote:

Breath of the Wild's English dub gets a lot of flack, but I actually like the voice of Zelda. It's true that she, like all the others, sounds kind of amateurish, but she has some serious redeeming qualities. The big complaint is that the VA doesn't sound emotional enough, but I think that is appropriate for the character. Zelda is analytical and emotionally repressed. You can find a secret journal in Hyrule Castle that mentions her mother died when she was six and didn't cry at the funeral because she didn't think she was supposed to. More importantly, the muted emotions make her sound exhausted after a lifetime of crushing responsibility. The character grew up with the knowledge that a potentially world ending event is inbound and it is up to her to save everyone. For ten years she fruitlessly prepared with minimal support. A full decade of failure, stress, and loneliness. All while being forced not to pursue the subjects she actually found worthwhile: engineering, botany, medicine, etc. Oh, and then she locked herself in a castle and fought a monster for a century. So, yeah, it makes sense for her to sound tired and worried and lonely. Compare that to the Japanese voice, which sounds more naturally panicked in the face of imminent destruction, but loses the seriousness and exhaustion. Japanese Zelda also sounds very squeaky and childlike. I guess you could make the argument that she was young when the calamity happened and didn't age during her time in the castle, but I prefer the idea that Zelda was forcibly aged beyond her years while still a teenager. The English dub has problems, but Zelda, despite her flaws, is a high point.

Replying to a 3-month old post is weird, but whatever. I actually do agree with this sentiment: I thought Zelda's English VA did a fine job. Sure, her voice did take a bit of time to get used to, but it definitely grew on me. I could also say the same for Mipha's English VA, I thought she did a fine job too. Overall, I thought the English dub for Breath of the Wild was pretty good.


Depending on who you ask, this could or couldn't be classified as an unpopular opinion: the second match Kenny Omega and Kazuchika Okada had at New Japan Pro Wrestling's Dominion show in Osaka-jo Hall wasn't as great as their fast match at Wrestle Kingdom 11 at the Tokyo Dome. I thought it felt kinda slow at times, and there were a couple points during the match that kinda fell on me. Unlike their first match, I came out from this match feeling kinda disappointed. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a bad match, it was actually a hell of match. But 6.25 stars? Meh, I'd go for 4.5. I will admit though that I enjoyed the match more after watching it a second time, with English commentary instead of Japanese commentary. Regardless, if people thought the match was 6.25 stars, that's totally fine.

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MiloticExalted wrote:

Double standards are the only reason a certain pair of users aren't banned yet. Pretty sure they might know who they are.

I am tired.


I am tired of your constant passive and not-so-passive aggressive comments against the moderators, especially given, if memory serves me right, I am the only reason you aren't banned right now. Deactivating and creating an alt to break the rules is basically an insta-ban offense. Not only is it willfully breaking the rules, but it's also attempting to divert punishments, which is a gigantic addition in our eyes. You shouldn't have had the chance to come back, but I wanted you to stick around after your apology. Which, reading right now, kind of annoys me even more.

@Mods. I’m sorry for my grudge against you. I’m in no place to judge the work you do that I can’t see from my position as a user

What the fuck happened to that?

How hypocritical, telling mods what to do when you can't even improve yourself.

But sure, let me explain what's going on here.

Shit's fucked, my man. We know what the rules are, but we aren't supposed to enforce what they pretty clearly mean. The most notorious one is the Behave Rule.

We want our site to be welcoming place for both old and new users. Please keep your comments and posts constructive and considerate in tone.

Yeah. We've been suggesting edits to this damned rule for, iirc, two years now, at least as far as I've seen. I personally have put forward a few variants and given some of them to Don at least twice, but nothing's come out of it.

Yeah, we fuck up, like we did with not banning you. I like to think that we actually do an okay job though, given the situation we have to work with.


And that brings me to part 2: This fucking thread.

How is this an unpopular opinion in any way, shape, or form? We're accused of bias and double standards more often than controversies get frontpaged. It's not an unpopular opinion, and I'm pretty confident you just posted it here because you wanted a place you thought you wouldn't get backlash for saying it.

And let's be honest here, that's what this thread has come to. It's "popular opinions for memepoints" and "benign opinions that aren't popular but hardly _un_popular" bar a few posts.

Oh gosh, such unpopular opinions as "nickleback and linkin park jokes are old and nickleback isn't actually the worst band to ever exist" (who would've thought!!!) and "notch is mean" (no shit). "Clinton is bad but not satan" and "daddy as an affectionate term is creepy"???? How the fuck are those unpopular?

The huge, supreme irony of this thread is that truly unpopular opinions are getting downvoted. Like Tchefuncte's a bit up about pandering to straight white men. You all do realize that's what this thread is for, right? If you're downvoting people for having bad opinions in a bad opinions thread (which, I will admit, I have been guilty of, although I repented) you're doing it completely fucking wrong!

The same goes in reverse. If you see an opinion and go "hey I agree with this!" maybe you should take a second before upvoting to think "Wait, if I agree with this, maybe it's not such an unpopular opinion?" I swear, the most controversial posts in this thread are downvoted but utterly benign ones or popular ones are upvoted. It makes no damned sense! Y'all have fucking toasted the thread!


And now, to give my post more resemblance of being on topic, I'm going to suggest an actually unpopular opinion.

Communism is actually an excellent idea and has been abused in the past, as well as mis-applied, which has led to much death and suffering. However, capitalism as well has lead to much death and suffering, to the point where I believe that communism is a viable thing to try out somewhere. It's a broad-ass idea with many variants so a few attempts that aren't destabilized by the U.S.A. would be nice to see if it'd practically work.

Now, if you downvote me for being aggressive elsewhere, fair enough. But if this opinion was the last straw, or what you're downvoting me for, I suggest you go sit in a corner and contemplate how stupid it is to downvote someone for an unpopular opinion in an unpopular opinion thread.

Off topic relating to River's post: There's actually a good reason why I made that vent thread, because I realized too often I was using this thread for things that were really vents. Some of ya'll should probably think if what you're saying sounds more like a vent and most your comment to that thread instead.

(and I apologize for getting off topic without an on-topic thing to balance it out, I'm not kidding when I say that I legit spent 10 minutes trying to think of an actual "unpopular opinion")

@Rivers
Saw this at 3AM and decided to bite, sorry if this isn't my best writing.

Believe it or not, I do try to self-improve at least a little bit, and willingly admit that my comment is probably more suited to the Vent Thread than this one. I'm not trying to attack you personally, as much as you now calling for me to be banned would make me want to, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to sit by and do nothing when I see something I feel is wrong. Yeah, the system's not perfect, but from what you've said, there is very little actual effort being put in to try and fix it considering it's been an issue for, as you said, two years in some cases. As much as I try not to, it's difficult not to judge the mods and admins over issues like this, when you're the only ones that have any pull with how the site is run. Regular users like me can't do anything but throw our voices to the wind and hope someone with authority listens, which is essentially banking on a snowball's chance in hell with how often that actually gets results. My frustration comes from not being able to do anything when I feel something is wrong, other than telling someone who's clearly at their wit's end with me already, crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. We don't get to see what issues are being discussed, who's next on the chopping block, what solutions are being proposed, or any indication that we're even being listened to. So to me, it looks like problems are being ignored, even if they aren't necessarily. There's simply no easy way to know, and that's just a sad reality rather than being any one person or group's fault.

And yeah, I fucked up too, I get it. I'm over it. I'm not perfect, and I don't pretend to be. Hell, I'm not even defending your decision to keep me around, as much as I appreciate the second chance. But just because I've done some petty shit in the past doesn't mean I suddenly don't deserve a voice. I could have called out exactly who I was talking about in my post, or deliberately said "X mod/admin doesn't do their job" or something equally shitty, but I didn't, because I'm trying to be better than that. I'm not trying to imply that all the blame falls on the mods, or the admins, or the users, or anyone really, because all I'm trying to do is point something out that I feel is a problem, and gauge whether or not it's "just me". This was never meant as a public outcry against the moderators, or whatever you seemed to have gleaned from it.

I'm actually a little surprised you're lashing out at me like this, since I always saw you as one of the more level-headed mods we have here, and the last comment I made that might possibly be interpreted as a dig on the mods was over a month ago, in a JFF thread. If you wanna talk more, go ahead and PM me since I'd rather not derail the whole thread with this, and it honestly came as a bit of a shock to me.

Rivers, you ask how my opinion is an unpopular opinion in any way. The way I see it is that it still keeps happening (the same way that Skrillex is still being made fun of even though people could easily move on and say that they don't like his music). Also, I talk from my own experiences with this subject, so I'd be glad if you don't butt in and tell me how I should feel about the matter just like I wouldn't do for you.
For me personally, it's still this way, I keep seeing a lot of nonsense about both bands. I could be wrong, but then again I haven't actually been proven wrong during my time on the internet.
Also, you two should probably take it to the vent thread (or even better, to PMs), lots of things between you that need clearing, methinks. It's not good to have that bottled up. Hope you guys find some common ground.

Is wrong to actually hate a member of your family? My uncle on my Mom's side is actually racist. Not like the "from a different times" racist where he calls black people "colored," but full blown slurs against blacks, Latinos and Muslims.

Am I wrong for never wanting to talk to him at family gatherings because he drinks too much, gets angry at Muslims and doesn't listen to others? I'm kind of scared he might go off on my Filipino boyfriend if anything happens between them. I mean my other Aunt already called him a "Flip" at Thanksgiving last year so is it wrong to hate him?

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