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Is this a good allegory to gaming controversies, especially to GamerGate?
Note it has gaming controversies in it, namely the relations between developers and journalists.

MexPirateRed wrote:

Actually the gallery is full of images that arent even related about the subject.
Besides they have never talk about the gallery, only about the comment section.

Well, thanks for pointing it out. I was under the suspicion that, once again, the gallery started to get full of irrelevant stuff.

I suppose it's time to take hands in the matter. If you guys want to help by all means feel free to do it in here.

Last edited Oct 06, 2015 at 12:08AM EDT

Bookie wrote:

So Bahar Mustafa just got charged with cyberviolence.

Now that's funny & karmic, but the big problem here is that the whole "watch what you tweet" thing is bullshit.

I don't want to live in a world where free speech is so dead.

the karma would be just as delicious if she were to get too close to a group who would not care how "progressive" she claimed to be, just that she's as white as a first gen Ipod. at least then her nasty ass karma wouldn't endanger the plight of free speech.
but like this it sets a dangerous precedent. today karma bites her in the ass tomorrow someone else voicing an unpopular but entirely subjective opinion. after that someone voicing an opinion with a kernel of truth to it and so on.
the thought of standing with her makes me cringe but then I remember the game overeater threatening the same thing to a UK citizen because he didn't like his speech.

Last edited Oct 07, 2015 at 03:28AM EDT

United Nations Apologizes for Fault-Ridden Cyberviolence Report

"When I asked her what went wrong with the report, she offered an apology. "I think it's just a product of the terrible scramble around the launch date. It was a hugely busy period for the UN. We apologize very much for the errors and I hope we'll be able to rectify them. Our priority is to get it back up in 100 percent correct state."

Last edited Oct 08, 2015 at 11:31AM EDT

TheGamerGrim wrote:

United Nations Apologizes for Fault-Ridden Cyberviolence Report

"When I asked her what went wrong with the report, she offered an apology. "I think it's just a product of the terrible scramble around the launch date. It was a hugely busy period for the UN. We apologize very much for the errors and I hope we'll be able to rectify them. Our priority is to get it back up in 100 percent correct state."

well then they might as well not even try to fix it. You won't find any modern studies by accredited individuals agreeing with the narrative they spouted.

@Evilthing
He does make some fair points about how if the controversy discussion doesn't last, the original offenders win through the silence. Warming up to things that are wrong is the norm with humans, even if they aren't openly admitting to it.
Controversies usually end in two ways:
A) Problem is resolved, and the offending party is dealt with. (Side A wins)
B) Not enough people care anymore and/or have decided it's not worth fighting . (Side B wins)
Right now, GamerGate has recently lowered in terms of online activity when compared back to the 'Gamers are Dead' happening. However, when a big bomb drops (like the UN Cyber-Violence Report debacle), the people are reminded that the movement is still relevant and ongoing, creating a surge of activity and keeping the log fire of debate tended and burning.

Last edited Oct 09, 2015 at 03:29PM EDT

(cont.)
GamerGate started with a large enough group of people that it won't die out as quickly as other spats have. Plus, with the other notable developments, like OP: DisrespectfulNod and #notyourshield, we have plenty of burning material to last for a while.
I, personally, cannot see an ending to GamerGate in the near future. There won't be a big "HOORAH!" where the problems all magically disappear. Problems will always appear in any situation, and if one does, GamerGate supporters will work to have it taken care of, then scout for the next problem.
Until anti-GamerGate enthusiasts stop dropping ammo, we'll keep shooting it back at their idiotic behavior strategically until a victory for that battle is secured. However, the war isn't over yet.

tl:dr Pretty good allegory.

Last edited Oct 09, 2015 at 03:29PM EDT

Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker lawsuit latest: The Hulkster wins key battles in legal war
http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2015/10/5/9457459/hulk-hogan-vs-gawker-lawsuit-latest-hulkster-wins-key-battles-legal-war
Hulkmania is running wild brother.
What is Gawker gonna do when the pythons choke them?

Just a question for some other hardcore GGers (I can't think of a better term, get off mah back), have you ever had times where other pro-GG people have attacked you for a different opinion, or you've otherwise had a confrontation with?

I'm only asking because recently a pro-GG dude by the name of Raymond Eccleston on Twitter lost his mind on me, because he assumed I was an anti because of an out-of-context tweet I made. In this case, I guess he was looking for something to get angry about, and he let that get in the way of doing his research.

Moral of the story: don't attack other pro-GG people because of your differences. Everyone in this has their own beliefs, and they won't change them because you tell them to. It's just about keeping yourself accountable to not fall into the "you're either with me or against me" trap.

Also in other minor news, I don't know if this has been talked about, but Generaal from the Netherlands has told me on Twitter that he left KYM to focus his GG efforts elsewhere, so that explains his sudden disappearance.

Last edited Oct 16, 2015 at 01:57AM EDT

A Delicious Cut of Roast Beef wrote:

Just a question for some other hardcore GGers (I can't think of a better term, get off mah back), have you ever had times where other pro-GG people have attacked you for a different opinion, or you've otherwise had a confrontation with?

I'm only asking because recently a pro-GG dude by the name of Raymond Eccleston on Twitter lost his mind on me, because he assumed I was an anti because of an out-of-context tweet I made. In this case, I guess he was looking for something to get angry about, and he let that get in the way of doing his research.

Moral of the story: don't attack other pro-GG people because of your differences. Everyone in this has their own beliefs, and they won't change them because you tell them to. It's just about keeping yourself accountable to not fall into the "you're either with me or against me" trap.

Also in other minor news, I don't know if this has been talked about, but Generaal from the Netherlands has told me on Twitter that he left KYM to focus his GG efforts elsewhere, so that explains his sudden disappearance.

Well… there was somebody on this very site lashing out at other GG people telling him to calm down, even accusing one of them of "drinking the kool-aid" after they called him out on his rage-fits.

DarthWiader wrote:

Well… there was somebody on this very site lashing out at other GG people telling him to calm down, even accusing one of them of "drinking the kool-aid" after they called him out on his rage-fits.

You're refering to TehDoh I assume? How far he fell…

@Evilthing
Comparing to what GamerGate is fighting for (ethical standards in games journalism, disclosure of relationships between reporter and producer, the stopping of collusion within journalists to push narratives and agendas, free speech for all), there are some bits related to the movement in the overall happening.
A cack publisher is pushing a slew of poorly constructed games under multiple personas. The publisher then uses intimidation, harassment, and censorship tactics to curtain the games from rightful criticism, most notably with the takedown of Jim Sterling's video on The Slaughtering Grounds. If I remember correctly, the same thing happened to TotalBiscuit and his covering of Day One: Garry's Incident. Censoring popular critics who call your broken or awful game a broken or awful game never works, as the Streisand Effect shows.

Last edited Oct 16, 2015 at 11:42AM EDT

cont.
On the directly-related-to-GamerGate side, there are some parallels.
The developers and journalists colluded, and so the devs were/are releasing sub-par games and receiving suspiciously high amounts of positive support and reviews from said journos who are supporting the dev. When other journos, developers, or normal people attempt to say the games are something less than [or equal to] mediocre, or noticed the collusion, the colluded group started banning and censoring anyone not drinking from the think-tank it had become.
Referencing my previous post, when a large enough group of people (gamers) attempted to derail the gravy train of unethical behavior, there was a push-back, as shown by the 'Gamers are Dead' happening. The gamers then worked hand-in-hand to push back harder, attacking the corruption financially, via boycotts and emails to sponsors of the corrupt medias. And so here GamerGate exists today: still fighting, archiving, dying (according to aGGros), and winning (depending on who you ask).
tl;dr
Jim Sterling vs. Digital Homocide: person versus an unethical company.
GamerGate vs. Games Media: multiple persons versus an unethical industry.

Last edited Oct 16, 2015 at 12:06PM EDT

A Delicious Cut of Roast Beef wrote:

Just a question for some other hardcore GGers (I can't think of a better term, get off mah back), have you ever had times where other pro-GG people have attacked you for a different opinion, or you've otherwise had a confrontation with?

I'm only asking because recently a pro-GG dude by the name of Raymond Eccleston on Twitter lost his mind on me, because he assumed I was an anti because of an out-of-context tweet I made. In this case, I guess he was looking for something to get angry about, and he let that get in the way of doing his research.

Moral of the story: don't attack other pro-GG people because of your differences. Everyone in this has their own beliefs, and they won't change them because you tell them to. It's just about keeping yourself accountable to not fall into the "you're either with me or against me" trap.

Also in other minor news, I don't know if this has been talked about, but Generaal from the Netherlands has told me on Twitter that he left KYM to focus his GG efforts elsewhere, so that explains his sudden disappearance.

Not that I can remember right now.


@Dameon (in Wolf Form)

You don't need to make multiple posts, the forums don't have a character limit.

Hrom wrote:

that guy is so pathetic
but we all know he'll make a hell lot of damage that can never be repaired

Well I don't know, he's trying to change the way a generation thinks, and most people aren't that stupid. We can always reverse it.

Recent article namedrops GG and mentions the Calgary Expo incident and the attempts to ban Adam Baldwin from that one convention months ago: The Myth of Geek Culture. It also talks about how pushed the politics is and how people try to push out those who are not as progressive as them.

Also, since the idea of excluding/shouting down people because they aren't "progressive" is on my mind, I feel the need to post this Pat Condell video from 2013. It's probably arbitrary, but I think it might be ok since this is the forum and there are some parallels to what he's describing and what we're facing with the SJWs and crazy feminists. Overall, I just think he males some really good points about free speech, and people who claim to know it all and act like they're the moral authority.

Last edited Oct 18, 2015 at 07:14PM EDT

roberthaha wrote:

The next harmless pastime to be completely fucked up by political correctness has been chosen:
https://archive.is/9tNHB

Inb4 'Tablegate'.

Oh man, FullMcIntosh has no clue what he's in for if he decides to anger the Greybeards.

We're talking about people who went through Isle of the Ape for fun.

The only thing worse for him would be if he tried to attack the Otaku again and didn't run away this time.

Last edited Oct 18, 2015 at 09:53PM EDT

@A Real Libertarian

I know I'm kinda overusing this song now, but it's appropriate as my response to seeing Butts try and "defend" her actions and all the people sticking up for this sick fuck.

Yo, hey guys and gals. Just in case you weren't aware, you might see #boycottstarwars7 making the rounds on Twitter, and I just want to make a PSA to say it is fake. It's just a tag started by trolls wanting to rile GG up, so if you see them, just move along.

Okay, that was it, have a nice evening.

So canada's new prime minister Justin Trudeau is a self named feminist, and has a strong desire to fight violence against women ((good cause)) and misogyny ((okay cause but murky)), and believes the government, community, and leaders need to start fighting against Music, Movies, Video Games, and Gamergate and Online communities for their mysognystic ways ((So fucked its not even funny)).

Yeah, he really did cite gamergate in one of his statements as things the government needs to fight. About the only thing he may be right about is absentee fathers, and even then doesn't go into the fact thwt absentee and abusive parents come in both genders.

For all you in canada, I feel so sorry for you all. This might be an age where you are targeted for harassment and cyberbullying by the government and pushed sround hard for contradictory opinion.

You're all gonna get bullied so hard.

Oh well fuck me up the asshole and call me a porcupine, I never knew Trudeau was that much of prick to want to censor everything. If I knew that I never would've voted for him.

Still, I would hope that the senate would know enough to not pass any censorship laws. Canada has been staunchly against that in the last 20 years.

Oh well fuck me up the asshole and call me a porcupine, I never knew Trudeau was that much of prick to want to censor everything. If I knew that I never would've voted for him.

Still, I would hope that the senate would know enough to not pass any censorship laws. Canada has been staunchly against that in the last 20 years.

Skeletor-sm

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