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Last posted Nov 27, 2024 at 12:25AM EST. Added Jan 01, 2017 at 06:26PM EST
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VeteranAdventureHobo wrote:

I can't believe I'm saying this, but it appears that Israel is at risk of breaking out into civil war or mass riots because Israeli police arrested soldiers at the prison camps that were guilty of raping the prisoners. Several high profile politicians and many civilians are on the side of the soldier rapists

I repeat that, civil war/riots are breaking out ON BEHALF of soldiers who raped prisoners

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/sde-teiman-israeli-soldiers-under-arrest-raping-palestinian-prisoner

Nah. Not a civil war. Mass protests, sure, even riots are doubtful. This is smaller than the protests over the judicial reforms or even the laws requiring the Haredi to now serve. It's also missing some context in that Israeli prisons had a reputation of being relatively comfortable until Ben Gvir started incorporating harsher conditions since October 7th, because Ben Gvir runs the prisons. Saying that. Also to note the Police raided them for questioning. The worst offense seems to be towards an actual Hamas terrorist. And the protestors seem to a bunch of far right extremists. Personally I have so little sympathy for Hamas prisoners getting sexually humiliated and abused for what they have done. ¯\(ツ)/¯ especially now that they are sending families of hostages torture videos of how they tortured the hostages. No sympathy here.

And before we get on our moral high horse let's be honest about what we want to happen, even assure ourselves if will happen, to some of the worst offenders in our society when they go to prison. How gleefully we remind ourselves about the child rapist getting prison justice. This isn't different.

A civil war this won't create. At best it's a stunt by Ben Gvir to show he has some power and relevancy since this is his domain, especially when even Netanyahu started snubbing him constantly. The little bitch keeps threatening to go against Netanyahu but hasn't done shit and won't do shit. I think MEE, which has a sordid history, is just attempting to embellish the situation to be larger than it is.

Last edited Jul 30, 2024 at 05:16AM EDT

Big day for Israel.
Struck at the heart of Beirut, they took out the 2nd of command of Hezbollah, the same man responsible for over 200 Americans killed decades ago.
And now, it has been confirmed that Ismail Haniyeh the leader of Hamas has been killed in Iran.

Iran is an interesting place and sends a larger message to Hezbollah and Hamas. You will never be safe in Iran. And for good reasons. One of the greatest ironies is that all those Muslim countries that kicked out their Jews gave Israel an ample pool of willing spies and informants who can infiltrate all those countries with an unaccented natural dialect, cultural norms, and blend perfectly into the societies they need to infiltrate.

Years ago when Israel assassinated the head of Iranian nuclear program it was surreal. They were able to pin point exactly his daily route, to be able to drive a car in front of his, open the baggage door, where an automatic gun was mounted that killed him while sparring the driver and his wife. The level of infiltration is deep. Absolutely deep.

It never sat right that the heads of Hamas were free to get people killed while they lounged in the billionaire suites.Of all the people that have died in this conflict, these 'leaders' are the most deserving.

If there's been any lesson from the failed 'War against Terror' it's that there's always going to be more 'foot-soldiers' and that destabilizing countries in an attempt to do so is a self-defeating exercise, it only creates more misery to widen recruitment and a power-vaccuum (to take the example of ISIS). The needle approach of a raid in Pakistan by American Special Forces probably did more than the blunt hammer approach that was the entirety of the campaign in Afghanistan.

Last edited Jul 31, 2024 at 04:42AM EDT

Trump had an interview today in Chicago, and in his usual insane ranting he decided to claim that Kamala Harris isn't black

He said shes always been an indian, but the black thing is a recent invention despite her being very publicly biracial for years.

The whole interview was a massive disaster, he insulted the interviewers, was blatantly being at minimum a little racist but id say a lot

Kenetic Kups wrote:

In the latest from the mentally feeble one of the magat pundits is saying that voting for a woman makes you transition

Jesse Watters, right? He even had his own mother call him to scold him.

I thought it might be a lack of message discipline of the American Right (including with their chosen candidate), or just plain long-standing cultural differences (France can be bizarre in it's own way), but no, with all the above incidents the 'Republicans are just weird'. Even their own country thinks so.

In breaking news, the United States has successfully conducted a prisoner swap between Russia, which has led to Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich and Marine Veteran Paul Whelan out of prison and back to their homes.

never mind guys he already backed up and is supporting Trump again.

Scratch that we are still yet to see an established famous modern republican figure have any moral standards they all sell out like cowards

Life is boring and repetitive by the time you are old…..

Last edited Aug 02, 2024 at 07:32PM EDT

Well Monday or Tuesday will see if the dems decide to shoot themselves in the foot ,as is their wont, if they choose Shapiro
the left doesn't like him for beingn a zionist who compared protesters to the klan, and wants to publicly fund private schools
and you'll lose the "moderate" "I'm not racist but" vote because then there would be two minorities on the ticket

Chewybunny wrote:

Nah. Not a civil war. Mass protests, sure, even riots are doubtful. This is smaller than the protests over the judicial reforms or even the laws requiring the Haredi to now serve. It's also missing some context in that Israeli prisons had a reputation of being relatively comfortable until Ben Gvir started incorporating harsher conditions since October 7th, because Ben Gvir runs the prisons. Saying that. Also to note the Police raided them for questioning. The worst offense seems to be towards an actual Hamas terrorist. And the protestors seem to a bunch of far right extremists. Personally I have so little sympathy for Hamas prisoners getting sexually humiliated and abused for what they have done. ¯\(ツ)/¯ especially now that they are sending families of hostages torture videos of how they tortured the hostages. No sympathy here.

And before we get on our moral high horse let's be honest about what we want to happen, even assure ourselves if will happen, to some of the worst offenders in our society when they go to prison. How gleefully we remind ourselves about the child rapist getting prison justice. This isn't different.

A civil war this won't create. At best it's a stunt by Ben Gvir to show he has some power and relevancy since this is his domain, especially when even Netanyahu started snubbing him constantly. The little bitch keeps threatening to go against Netanyahu but hasn't done shit and won't do shit. I think MEE, which has a sordid history, is just attempting to embellish the situation to be larger than it is.

Systemic rape is okay when it happens to people you dont like

Kenetic Kups wrote:

Well Monday or Tuesday will see if the dems decide to shoot themselves in the foot ,as is their wont, if they choose Shapiro
the left doesn't like him for beingn a zionist who compared protesters to the klan, and wants to publicly fund private schools
and you'll lose the "moderate" "I'm not racist but" vote because then there would be two minorities on the ticket

we still pretending to be shocked if it's the milquetoast white guy and astronaut?

Kenetic Kups wrote:

Given the dem's talent for fucking up, yes
I still have my fingers crossed for Walz though

Do you think the Dems would choose him because of the "weird" strategy? I dunno, from what i knew he didn't seem part of the shortlist like Shapiro, Kelly or Whitmer.

Steve wrote:

Systemic rape is okay when it happens to people you dont like

he out and and said that's exactly what most people think

"And before we get on our moral high horse let's be honest about what we want to happen, even assure ourselves if will happen, to some of the worst offenders in our society when they go to prison. How gleefully we remind ourselves about the child rapist getting prison justice. This isn't different."

and as much as i actually want to vomit from even typing this, but yes, hamas has done alot worse then a child rapist ever has, or even could.

Kinetic Kups wrote:

In the latest from the mentally feeble one of the magat pundits is saying that voting for a woman makes you transition

This is one of those instances where a reasonable person would assume you were making it up without showing it. (Video is timestamped)

Something something wow someone on Fox says a man can transition into a woman
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Chewybunny wrote:

I certainly don't like terrorists that target civilians. Or pedophiles. Or mass murderers. Do you?

Laws and basic human rights don't stop applying to people just because you don't like them. Then again, some regimes who claim to be proponents of the "rules-based order" have a tendency of conveniently forgetting or ignoring those rules should also apply to them.

martinprince12345 wrote:

Do you think the Dems would choose him because of the "weird" strategy? I dunno, from what i knew he didn't seem part of the shortlist like Shapiro, Kelly or Whitmer.

Who knows honestly lol
but he does have a lot going for him
also would love to see someone from my state in the executive

TheHolyEmpress wrote:

Laws and basic human rights don't stop applying to people just because you don't like them. Then again, some regimes who claim to be proponents of the "rules-based order" have a tendency of conveniently forgetting or ignoring those rules should also apply to them.

On paper, you are correct.
In reality, not many people are going to have a lot of sympathy towards a serial rapist, a pedophile, a mass murderer, or in this case a terrorist who specifically targeted women and children, if they receive prison justice. I for one won't shed a tear for horrific shit happening to people who committed the atrocities on October 7th.

I'm just being honest if Ted Bundy got brutally raped in prison, most people aren't going to get particularly upset by it.

What I suspect Steve wants to do is decontextualize the situation and imply that "the people I don't like" are actually Palestinians as a whole.

Kamala Harris's campaign on Trump backing out of the debate on September 10th.

Donald Trump is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out. He needs to stop playing games and show up to the debate he already committed to on September 10th.

The vice-president will be there one way or the other to take the opportunity to speak to a prime-time national audience. We’re happy to discuss further debates after the one both campaigns have already agreed to. Mr. Anytime, anywhere, anyplace should have no problem with that unless he’s too scared to show up on the 10th.

Kenetic Kups wrote:

Lived there 90% of my life

Huh, mind if I ask some questions?

Have you ever gone to Canada? How easy or hard is it to get there for you? Did you ever go the Voyageurs National Park? (I was actually planning to go at some point in the far-future, the photos of the lake reflecting the aurora borealis interested me).

Do people in Minnesota really still say "good grief"?

EDIT: It's for curiosity's sake, you don't have to answer.

Last edited Aug 04, 2024 at 04:05AM EDT

Gilan wrote:

Huh, mind if I ask some questions?

Have you ever gone to Canada? How easy or hard is it to get there for you? Did you ever go the Voyageurs National Park? (I was actually planning to go at some point in the far-future, the photos of the lake reflecting the aurora borealis interested me).

Do people in Minnesota really still say "good grief"?

EDIT: It's for curiosity's sake, you don't have to answer.

Never been to voyageurs , though I would like to
I think my grandma said good grief

been to Canada a few times, pretty far from where I lived though

KZN02 wrote:

According to a whistleblower at Sde Teiman months ago:

The source claimed the military had no proof that detainees were all members of Hamas, with some inmates repeatedly asking why they were there. According to the whistleblower, most were considered suspects and some were released. “But they had not been formally charged. It was a kind of filtering camp, a provisional detention,” he said.

I was under the impression that the IDF makes arrests in order to bulk out prisoner trades as a matter of procedure. This happened last year in front of an NPR crew who was interviewing a West Bank farmer and were told 'shut up' after asking questions

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Rachel Scott of ABC received death threats from Trump supporters after she interviewed Trump at the NABJ.

Trump said he had 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles after Tesla CEO Elon Musk endorsed him.

I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant admitted quid pro quo and attempt to weigh the elections as with Trump & Musk. "Draining the Swamp", huh? Well, that's talking point has already been abandoned a long-time ago, as with 'free speech' with how Musk has used his platform to ban dissenters (and inadvertently giving them more attention with the Streisand effect).

What worries me most is the stunt with the deepfake video directly shared by Musk, because that threat for democracies has finally become true. Hopefully the EU's case against Elon Musk & Twitter succeeds.

Last edited Aug 05, 2024 at 04:55AM EDT

Kenetic Kups wrote:

Never been to voyageurs , though I would like to
I think my grandma said good grief

been to Canada a few times, pretty far from where I lived though

Yeah, I've checked on google maps and Voyageurs (and the Canadian border because they're pretty much next to each other) is apparently a 440 km drive from Minneapolis (and way more from the South of that). Some of the states can be pretty huge. In comparison you can go from the capital of Estonia to Lithuania in 574km.

I've only been to Montréal and Vancouver, haven't been to the area in-between.

Last edited Aug 05, 2024 at 05:14AM EDT

I was taking a walk outside this morning, and some weirdo wrote messages on a wall with graffiti about how the 2020 election was stolen by the Democrats. The messages say:

“Trump won! 2020 was stolen!”
“This is a (sic) un-elected Shadow Gvt.”
“When lying, cheating fails…Democrats murder.”
“If you vote for Democrats, you are a criminal too!”

FYI, I live in the Bay Area, so it’s quite peculiar to see something like this.

Gilan wrote:

I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant admitted quid pro quo and attempt to weigh the elections as with Trump & Musk. "Draining the Swamp", huh? Well, that's talking point has already been abandoned a long-time ago, as with 'free speech' with how Musk has used his platform to ban dissenters (and inadvertently giving them more attention with the Streisand effect).

What worries me most is the stunt with the deepfake video directly shared by Musk, because that threat for democracies has finally become true. Hopefully the EU's case against Elon Musk & Twitter succeeds.

Speaking of them, guess who founded a PAC that’s specifically using fake voter registration to target voters in battleground states for door-to-door canvassing in support of Trump?
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/02/elon-musk-pac-voter-data-trump-harris.html

Last edited Aug 05, 2024 at 05:54PM EDT

Jokes Joestar 👌ꙮ wrote:

Speaking of them, guess who founded a PAC that’s specifically using fake voter registration to target voters in battleground states for door-to-door canvassing in support of Trump?
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/02/elon-musk-pac-voter-data-trump-harris.html

Gilan wrote:

Yeah, I've checked on google maps and Voyageurs (and the Canadian border because they're pretty much next to each other) is apparently a 440 km drive from Minneapolis (and way more from the South of that). Some of the states can be pretty huge. In comparison you can go from the capital of Estonia to Lithuania in 574km.

I've only been to Montréal and Vancouver, haven't been to the area in-between.

I've been to Voyageurs National Park (lifetime Minnesotan), and has some neat exhibits and great scenery. Northeastern Minnesota has similar topography to Norway and Sweden with lots of pines and mountain-like terrain. It's also rich in iron, with there being natural magnets (the area is known as The Iron Range, with iron mining still present). Grand Marais and Isle Royale are nice too.

While Tim Walz wasn't my top pick, I started to like him when I looked into what he did to improve Minnesota (legalize recreational marijuana, passed universal background checks on guns, expanded LGBTQ protections, implemented tuition-free college for low-income Minnesotans, and implement free breakfast and lunch for schoolkids). So this was a very solid pick for Harris and the democrats.

martinprince12345 wrote:

Oh wow, Dems actually didn't shoot themselves in the foot this time.

In a sea of options that are middling or worse, they chose someone who's "alright", and simultaneously the best of all presented options. At least they won't need to burn even more money on astroturfing and PR campaigns.

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