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[General] 2016 U.S. Presidential Election General

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lisalombs wrote:

Analysis says don't blame Hillaryā€¦ an analysis of votes says Trump probably would have beaten Obama in 2012 too.

Voter records now show that Trump also did better with blacks and Hispanics than Romney in 2012, in what must be the ultimate blow to the GOP establishment.

Trump has been on his Twitter telling Democrats to send him a to-do list instead of directing empty hate towards him in the media.

I have more of a to-don't list really

1.) Don't put nukes on the table
2.) Don't piss off other countries leaders by being yourself
3.) Don't drag us into a full on war with ISIS
4.) Stop putting off your law-suits
5.) Don't grab anymore pussy

lisalombs wrote:

Analysis says don't blame Hillaryā€¦ an analysis of votes says Trump probably would have beaten Obama in 2012 too.

Voter records now show that Trump also did better with blacks and Hispanics than Romney in 2012, in what must be the ultimate blow to the GOP establishment.

Trump has been on his Twitter telling Democrats to send him a to-do list instead of directing empty hate towards him in the media.

1. Don't get us all killed.
2. Don't take away the social progress for LGBT people.
3. Don't sink the economy any lower.

You do those 3 things trump and I'll be happy. Should be easy enough considering 2/3 require him to do nothing.

what bugs me the most isnt that trump won

its that he won with the electoral vote and not the popular vote, along with the fact that the first past the post system also damaged hillary due to the spoiler effect

Dreamworks wrote:

what bugs me the most isnt that trump won

its that he won with the electoral vote and not the popular vote, along with the fact that the first past the post system also damaged hillary due to the spoiler effect

Too bad we need the democrats and republicans to come together and pass an amendment that destroys their choke hold of power in order to change that. Either that, or an armed revolt that somehow beats the most powerful army in the world with hunting rifles.

šŸ’œāœØKaijuSundaeāœØšŸ’œ wrote:

I hope those of you who voted Trump are happy.

Very.
I'm pretty sure one of the first things Trump will do is get rid of Obamacare, which is the main reason I voted for him to begin with. (That and the fact I can't fucking stand most of Hillary's supporters and refuse to be associated with them.)
If Obamacare were to continue, my family would be literally fucked financial-wise.

Overall I feel like people are overreacting to this a little too much.
I mean I'd understand it if you were afraid of Obamacare being repealed or being deported if you're here illegally, but for Christ's sake people are talking about how he's going to demolish democracy and take everyone's rights away.
I think they might be going a little overboard in that assumption.

Remember when everyone thought the far right would lose it's shit and stir things up when Trump lost? Well, the more things change, the more horseshoe theory stays the same.

Necromagenvion said:

ā€¦what happens now?

There will be a lot of bitching about the Electoral College (as Clinton currently leads the popular vote), then nothing will happen because that requires a constitutional amendment and flyover country will never give up what little clout they have in favor of the East and West Coast deciding who wins.

The Dems will use their filibuster powers to slow down the Senate, but thanks to Reid using the nuclear option back in 2013, SCOTUS stays firmly conservative as any filibuster will be dismissed.

As for policy, I think Trump will take a more centerist stance on things. Pence is rumored to be Cheney-tier when it comes to domestic power, so there might be a harder stance on social issues, but Trump's already admitted to "negotiating" things like the Mexico wall, immigration, etc--which could suggest he'll be the coveted bipartisan President we've been needing since Reagan.

Anyone who thinks he's Hitler and this is 1933 has been drinking the Huffpost Kool Aid. The Republican Congress is still firmly establishment, as is SCOTUS. If Trump does go off the deep end, the checks and balances, along with the regular GOP, will be there to reel things in

TheLastMethBender said:

If this isnā€™t proof that the party needs to be knocked down and rebuilt then I donā€™t know what is

It's funny. Everyone on the left was proudly boasting how the GOP was getting ready to crash and burn (remember K.C. Green's elephant cartoon?), while their plane's engines were on fire.

Colonel Sandor said:

Like Democrats, this election provides Republicans an opportunity to treat the cancer eating at its party. But unlike the Democrats, there is now someone in position who has interest in starting chemotherapy.

As nice as it'd be to purge the neopotism and corruption (Small government! E-Except for the billions we get from defense contractors.) in the GOP, I don't see it happening. Remember that Trump brought RNC Chair Priebus onstage during his victory speech to bask in the celebration. There's the talk he could become Trump's Chief of Staff. Combine that with speculation over Giuliani being Attorney General and Sessions (a Senator for two decades) more or less getting his pick of positions (Secretary of Defense is most rumored) and the establishment GOP already has it's tentacles firmly gripped on a Trump administration.

Disasters are about the only thing that can purge a political party. This certainly is promising for disillusioned liberals, but it's hardly a disaster for the GOP.

Verbose said:

What do more right-learning folks think is the best, reasonable outcome for 4 years under a Trump presidency and a full deck of cards in Congress?

1) We stop acting as the World's Police. If there's a problem in your country, you gotta deal with it. The best we're doing is economic restraints.

2) The DoD gets hacked to death. We don't need to spend a hundred billion dollars on a jet fighter and, if we're not the World's Police anymore, we don't need a standing army of 3 million.

3) The money we would be spending on the military we instead spend on infrastructure. Improve the roads, water pipes, and pipelines and get them at least a little better.

4) Tax and tort reform. No more 20,000 page long tax code that you need to pay someone six figures to get you the best deal on. I like a flat percentage tax, but I'm not well read on the matter so I don't know the best option.

5) Abortion limits ~20 weeks w/standard incest/rape/medical exemptions. The pro-life in me just can't ignore it.

6) Balanced budget constitution amendment. Basic math, history, and economics say you can't run a deceit forever. Eventually someone will end the cycle and want their money. This includes stopping the Social Security and Medicare timebombs through reform.

ā€¦expected excusesā€¦

Blame the other party. The permanent, easy, go-to excuse for when you fuck up or fail to give everyone their free ponies.

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Giuliani has no interest in a political position at this point in his life.

{ the establishment GOP already has itā€™s tentacles firmly gripped on a Trump administration. }

orrrr are the terrified RINO politicians actually desperate not to be cast out? One little wave of Trump's hand can't cause mass deportation but it is famous for dismissing his staff quicker than anything else. Then they lose their connection between Congress and the President, and what sort of outsiders does Trump pick to take their places if he's mad enough to go Apprentice? This is where Trump's presence alone becomes his leverage in the long run, especially if they all start off playing very nicely together.

4 D C H E S S

Something in OhNickel's recent video honestly rings pretty true for how easy it is for "Fans" of a person to suddenly turn on said person they like simply over certain differences in opinion. A YouTuber named Jesse Cox Tweeted earlier today about how his mother was upset that Clinton lost, as she was really hoping she'd get to see a woman president in her lifetime. A "fan" of Jesse's responded by calling his mother a retard, and Jesse recognized this very person as someone who asked to take a picture with him at Blizzcon. And yeah quite simply what the other guy said to Jesse about his mother was pretty damn rude.

One reason why I bring this up is because a lot of YouTuber I follow, pretty well known ones in fact like JonTron, PBG, ProJared, and the like are all either saying how disappointed they are with the election results, or at least re-tweeting tweets from other people disappointed by the resultsā€¦ and as you might expect now they've got "fans" getting onto them them by calling them cucks and the like. Granted these comments are in the minority, sure, but I'm legit becoming curious why these apparent alt-righters were fans of people who always identified as being centrist or liberal for a long time now.

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Dreamworks wrote:

what bugs me the most isnt that trump won

its that he won with the electoral vote and not the popular vote, along with the fact that the first past the post system also damaged hillary due to the spoiler effect

Yeah well it only bugs people when its already happened

We never talk about it the 3 other years we could be fixing it

NH was finally called, for Clinton. I'm going to assume MI is gonna be called for Trump. If it's called for Clinton, just note that I got 1 more Likely state right.

  • 100% accuracy on Solid states. That's, by my count, 31 states. (Note that this discludes one of Maine's and Nebraska's districts, which were tossups.)
  • 80% accuracy on Likely states. There were 10 Likely states, and 8 went to who I expected.
  • 83% accuracy on Lean states. There were 6 Lean states, and I got 5 right.
  • Simply due to what I labeled "Tossup" states, no candidate should have won more than 3 of the 5. Since Trump took all of them, I count that as a 60% accuracy with Tossup states, with 2 wrong.

So, I got 5 wrong out of 53 predictions, for an overall accuracy of 94%.

Not bad, if I say so myself, even if I got the final results wrong.


North Dakota and Hawaii haven't finished their tallying yet for Senate, according to Decision Desk HQ, but Hawaii so far (10% in) looks strongly Dem (no surprise there) and ND is a strong Repubilcan state, so I'm going to assume from the get-go that they're going that way. If they don't, count that as two Solid states wrong.

  • Out of the 24 Solid senate seats, all 24 were right.
  • Out of the 3 Likely senate seats, all 3 were right.
  • Out of the 4 Lean senate seats, I got 2 right. The two I got wrong were Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which I expected to go Democratic.
  • Due to the way the math works with tossup seats, I effectively got all 3 of them right.

This means I got 32 of the 34 seats effectively right, for a 94% accuracy. Also, I predicted a Republican lean for the Senate, and they won.


I'm not going to go seat-by-seat in the House, but I can say, looking at it broadly, I got it about right. If I wanted to be more accurate, I would've put a few tossup states leaning Republican, but I still got the number right, give or take. If everyone took their lean and likely seats, and then took no more than they're "supposed to" out of the tossup seats, then you'd get what's about called right now.

Lastly, Governorships. I got all 5 solid and, seemingly, 1 of the 2 likely seats right. I say seemingly because North Carolina is one of those that continues to be contested, and may go to recount. I also got only 2 out of the 4 lean seats correct. That's 75% accuracy. I must admit that this was one of the weakest areas, and I had to make some guesses. Not much polling was available for some of these.


And with that, I make the case for the polls, since people seem to be thrashing them now.

If polling was so messed up, how could I, and forecasters (of whom I based most of my predictions off of) get accuracies 94% for the Presidency and Senate, and the House about right for seat numbers? The governorships were odd, because I had to use polling data that was, at times, extremely sparse and low quality. If I spent more time, I probably could've done better on that.

Right now, according to the Associated Press, Clinton had 47.66% of the vote, and Trump 47.5%. Any more numbers brought up aren't likely to move this by a lot, as far as i can tell. RCP got the popular vote off, by their count, 3.1 points. Here's an interesting article by 538, on November 4th, that's very relevant.

Even at the end of a presidential campaign, polls donā€™t perfectly predict the final margin in the election. Sometimes the final polls are quite accurate. An average of national polls in the week before the 2008 election had Barack Obama winning by 7.6 percentage points. He won by 7.3 points. Sometimes, however, the polls miss by more. Four years ago, an average of survey results the week before the election had Obama winning by 1.2 percentage points. He actually beat Mitt Romney by 3.9 points.

If that 2.7-point error doesnā€™t sound like very much to you, well, itā€™s very close to what Donald Trump needs to overtake Hillary Clinton in the popular vote. She leads by 3.3 points in our polls-only forecast.

My "optimistic" Trump map was, as I said, a "very possible one". It had him at 299 electoral votes. While the map didn't play out exactly how I expected, it did go mostly how I expected.

If we look at the polls that were outliers in Trump's favor, they aren't faring too much better. LATimes had Trump 3 points over Clinton at the end, about the margin that the average of polls had Clinton over Trump, according to RCP and 538. In the end, that one ended up being about as wrong as everyone else. (Remember, these are national polls, predicting the national vote, not the winner of the election.)

IBD/TIPP had Trump up 2% (1% if you're looking at the 2-way match up instead of 4-way, which appears to be marginally more accurate in the end). So overall, they were better, but still off by about 2%.

Rasmussen's final poll had Clinton up 2%, which was about as wrong as IBD/TIPP. Given that Rasmussen has generally just had a history of being several points red compared to other pollsters, I'd chalk this up to house effect, and not true accuracy. Regardless, they were off by about a standard polling error, give or take.

What I'm trying to show through this is that, when you bother to actually handle the polls properly, they actually didn't do bad. As 538 and I believed, a Trump presidency was very possible. They had Trump at about 30% chance of winning on election night, and that was with polls that suddenly really liked the number 4.

The polls were off, by notable margins. But if you had come to know them well, you'd have known that it's not a surprise for the polls to be off by enough for Trump to win. Next time, the pollsters are going to try to fix whatever they didn't get this time, so the polling error is lower. That's how it works.

I rest my case.

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This is fucking stupid

>Weed is legal
>But you can't buy it from people
>But can trade it
>But if its money then its illegal
>But you can buy it from stores
>But they wont be open for more than a year
>But you can grow plants
>But only six
>Oh and you can't have more than an ounce

JUST FUCKING MAKE IT FULLY LEGAL ALREADY

What is the god damn point of having all these stupid rules?

Snickerway wrote:

I remember all the elections since 2004, but this is the only one I've paid attention to, and I'm starting to regret giving a shit.

I've lost a lot of my faith in the effectiveness of our political system after seeing how little people cared about actual political issues in this election. In theory, the environment and the TPP should have been hot-button issues this cycle, but I've barely heard them mentioned since the election season began. All people cared about was the endless string of scandals ā€“ the emails, the Satanism, the pussy grabbing ā€“ and the candidates started to rely on digging up as much shit about the enemy as possible rather than making themselves look more appealing. Fucking Pepe, a damn meme frog, was one of the most talked about issues online. Can you really call our system a democracy when the vast majority of people vote based on which candidate had the fewest scandals, or even more trivial bullshit like Pepe?

Has it always been like this, with the constant shitslinging and meme crap, or is this something new for this awful election?

I mentioned a couple months ago that there was something new about this election, but I forget to bring it up until you reminded me. This was the first election where internet culture became politicized and was used by candidates to drive support. From official campaign organizations like Correct the Record to looser groups like The_Donald, the proliferation of memes and hashtags (some of which was organic, some of which were astroturf), the endless dumps of Wikileaks and release of YouTube videos, and Trump's Twitter feed,the internet became a political weapons platform.

It's not that other campaigns haven't used the internet in the past, but it was the first time both major candidates fully utilized its potential to spread its message.

I will say that probably the one real negative I have to say about Trump's impending presidency is I do feel he could have chosen a better VP. Part of me can't help but feel Pence was only chosen to try and appease the part of the GOP that hates Trump, because the more I learn about Pence the more I'm like "Wait seriously?" The guy actually passed a law in his home state to where people who get an abortion are then forced to have a funeral for the remains, and I'm just like "that feels needlessly complicated, regardless if you're pro-choice or not." Also I keep hearing that Pence wanted to pass a law that would have made learning evolution in schools illegal in his state, but correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Though of course if past VPs are anything to go by Pence should ultimately be pretty damn harmless because VPs haven't really had that much influence as far as I can tell.

Sorry for the triple post, but a bit of a follow up to a comment I posted earlier about famous YouTubers being unhappy with the election results, Total Biscuit, a YouTuber well known among the anti-SJW scene for his support of GamerGate years ago, has stated that he is really unhappy with the election's results, going so far as to say "this will make America hate again," but saying he agrees with one thing and it's that Trump was right that mainstream media really screwed itself.

I think that this along with Ethan, Jontron, etc saying they all did vote for Clinton, along with what I mentioned before about Jesse Cox, this makes me wonder if certain fringe Trump supporters like alt-righters only liked these people because they said they dislike SJW behavior in the past, because it seems like the moment most of these people revealed they didn't support Trump they sure turned on them pretty damn fast. You can be anti-SJW but still hold liberal beliefs. Chris Ray Gun, a well known anti-SJW YouTuber, has said he considers himself liberal but just hates the behavior of the far left.

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Mistress Fortune wrote:

Sorry for the triple post, but a bit of a follow up to a comment I posted earlier about famous YouTubers being unhappy with the election results, Total Biscuit, a YouTuber well known among the anti-SJW scene for his support of GamerGate years ago, has stated that he is really unhappy with the election's results, going so far as to say "this will make America hate again," but saying he agrees with one thing and it's that Trump was right that mainstream media really screwed itself.

I think that this along with Ethan, Jontron, etc saying they all did vote for Clinton, along with what I mentioned before about Jesse Cox, this makes me wonder if certain fringe Trump supporters like alt-righters only liked these people because they said they dislike SJW behavior in the past, because it seems like the moment most of these people revealed they didn't support Trump they sure turned on them pretty damn fast. You can be anti-SJW but still hold liberal beliefs. Chris Ray Gun, a well known anti-SJW YouTuber, has said he considers himself liberal but just hates the behavior of the far left.

People get very split and angry about politics no matter which side you look at.

If Trump had lost and these youtubers voted Trump the same thing would happen.

People want their side to win and believe everyone they associate with should think the same. There isn't any "debate" anymore it is me vs them when it comes to the internet.

I'm sure a few days everyone will forget and I doubt any Youtuber or internet personality will take any real hit to supporters.

Yeah so my family briefly alienated me because I voted third party. "Good job voting third party, asshole, you helped Trump win." (sic) No, a vote for third party is not a vote for [insert opponent here], a vote for third party is a vote for third party. Yeah, it will blow over in a couple days, but right now, I'm thoroughly pissed.

Due to the Spoiler Effect, people are perfectly happy voting for someone they only slightly like in order to curtail someone they don't like, like choosing an alive beaver over a dead deer when there's a perfectly good steak right in front of you. This very idea is why we're stuck under a two-party system. Britain, the closest nation to us in terms of ideologies, lifestyles, cultures, etc., has like 6 parties, which all get significant enough votes. No two parties completely dominate the others. How do they do it? How did they not succumb to the Spoiler Effect? Clearly if they just adopt Populism and appeal to multiple demographics, the one party would be able to secure every election ever /s A two-party system is a great idea if the main party's candidate is someone you generally accept. But for someone like me who did not like the idea of either candidate sitting in The Chair, I wanted to vote for someone I thought would do the best job. Fuck me right? No, my vote helped Goliath and hurt Leviathan.

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I had full intentions on voting for Trump until he picked Pence as his VP. I think he only picked Pence so people like Cruz, who hate Trump, might actually work with him.

It really does annoy me how much hate Trump has gotten when it is really Pence who we should worry about.

{ This very idea is why weā€™re stuck under a two-party system. }

bruh the two biggest third parties are slightly different versions of the worst parts of Democrats and Republicans combined, they're not losing just because fewer people know about them. Even more, this country basically did vote third party. Two political outsiders who are routinely ostracized by the establishment would have been running the race for President against each other if Hillary and the DNC hadn't literally taken it by force from Bernie.

Which is still not to say you wasted your vote, just that they're not the magical solution so many people have apparently decided they are because of this election.


Why should anyone be worrying about Pence?
What has Joe Biden done in 8 years?
Did anyone even remember Joe Biden exists until right then when I said it?

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@Freakenstein Doesn't England have an AV voting system? I think they have it for some, but not all elections? With a first pass to post system, it's possible for a person a majority of the country voted against to win unless there is a two party system, hence why such systems evolve into two party systems.

Also, never tell people who you voted for, there is a reason they make it so you can't see who people vote for, it would breed hate.

>Why should anyone be worrying about Pence?
>What has Joe Biden done in 8 years?

I don't think any democrats hated Obama, and he had a good idea of what he is doing.

Trump is hated by many republicans, so many won't listen to him, he has less experience, and has even said pence will be doing most of the work.

Either way, thats sorta besides the point, you should still worry about him since if something happens to Trump, he will be president. Its the same with McCain/Palin. Sure, the VP probably won't do much, but its very scary to have someone like that so close to presidency.

{ and has even said pence will be doing most of the work. }

Like an intern. The VP can do literally nothing. Their assigned duties are to watch the Senate and break ties. They're honest to god not allowed to vote unless it's a tiebreaker and they're not even allowed to speak unless directly addressed. That's what the VP does.

Some liberals are so upset, they're advocating the Electoral College commit a coup.

Mistress Fortune said:

ā€¦only chosen to try and appeaseā€¦

That's pretty much the exclusive reason for picking a VP. Trump picked Pence to lock down the evangelical vote that was concerned he'd go soft on abortion and social conservatism. People were concerned about Obama's lack of experience and nativity, so he picked Biden, a seasoned veteran of Washington politics.

As for his harmlessness, if what Kasich's people said is true, then Pence is shaping up to be a shadow President.

I believe Trump will do okay as long as he listens and is willing to compromise on some things. If he doesn't and sits back and just lets Pence do all the leading then it's gonna be another Bush Administration.

From what I heard so far he is trying to learn so hopefully he will do well. He even had a meeting with Obama that was supposed to last 10 minutes but lasted 90 instead and Obama said it was an "excellent" meeting so I'm hopeful.

The Trump Effect: Trans-Pacific Partnership Dead

"Obamaā€™s signature global trade deal had been on life support for months as both Democrats and Republicans campaigned against unfair trade policies ahead of the Nov. 8 election. And Donald Trumpā€™s triumph in the presidential race cemented its fate.

'There is no way to fix the TPP,' Trump said in a June economic address. 'We need bilateral trade deals. We do not need to enter into another massive international agreement that ties us up and binds us down.'"

TPP was widely unpopular, and there was concern a lame-duck Congress would try to push its passage before the next Congressional term.

Also seeing how Trump is now our oldest president assuming office, how will the aging affect him? Will he be under so much stress, his hairpiece goes white?

He doesn't smoke or drink. He's got access to the best healthcare in the world: previously, because he's wealthy, and now, because he's the President. I doubt aging will be a problem for him.

As for stress, we'll see how much administrative work he actually decides to take on.

"As nice as itā€™d be to purge the neopotism and corruption (Small government! E-Except for the billions we get from defense contractors.) in the GOP, I donā€™t see it happening. Remember that Trump brought RNC Chair Priebus onstage during his victory speech to bask in the celebration. Thereā€™s the talk he could become Trumpā€™s Chief of Staff. Combine that with speculation over Giuliani being Attorney General and Sessions (a Senator for two decades) more or less getting his pick of positions (Secretary of Defense is most rumored) and the establishment GOP already has itā€™s tentacles firmly gripped on a Trump administration.

Disasters are about the only thing that can purge a political party. This certainly is promising for disillusioned liberals, but itā€™s hardly a disaster for the GOP."

These are fair points. It will be interesting to see how Trump deals with the Republican Party. There are a number of prominent Republicans, in particular Paul Ryan, who didn't exactly do Trump any favors during the campaign. Whether he tries to leverage them or attempt to clean house remains to be seen.

The relationship between Trump and the GOP money class is complicated to say the least. Many of the traditional big-money donors did not support Trump and some of them made a point of not doing so. The Koch Brothers/Romney faction all but campaigned against him, for example, and during the campaign there were reports that GOP field offices were not giving Trump much support. This despite the fact Trump raised tens of millions in small donations that went directly into the general GOP coffers.

So in some sense Trump does not owe these donors for getting him elected. Yet on the other hand he will need to work with Congressional Republicans in order to enact his agenda. That doesn't mean there will necessarily be a miracle-level of reform, but nevertheless there will be an interesting and unusual dynamic to the relationship between the President and his party.

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So with donald trump not even being inaugurated yet, he's already killed one of the worst pieces of legislation? Maybe this won';t be so bad after all.

My Native American boss (she prefers Indian tho) knows I'm into politics so we've been discussing the election the whole time. She didn't have a preference either way, but she just called me losing her mind because ivy league colleges are offering puppies and playdoh to soothe students. I mean LOSING her mind my friends.

The link is for the Wall Street Journal. Tell me this is not the most surreal thing you've ever read.

{ ā€œA lot of people are feeling like there has been a loss. We talked about grief today and about the loss of hope that this election would solidify the progress that was being made,ā€ said Trey Boynton, the director of multi-ethnic student affairs at the University of Michigan.

There was a steady flow of students entering Ms. Boyntonā€™s office Wednesday. They spent the day sprawled around the center, playing with Play-Doh and coloring in coloring books, as they sought comfort and distraction.

ā€œThere is unspeakable shock at the manifestation of hate and bigotry that is on par with how people felt when Orlando happened, when Charleston happened,ā€ she said. }

(I know I bolded the bottom because it's an atrocious comparison but the middle paragraph is what I thought was surreal when I read it, that is describing COLLEGE STUDENTS, it literally reads like a day care center ad!)

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Black Graphic T wrote:

So with donald trump not even being inaugurated yet, he's already killed one of the worst pieces of legislation? Maybe this won';t be so bad after all.

You're TRUMP RIGHT this won't be bad. My presidency will be LEGENDARY! A STORY OF TRIUMPH FOR AGES TO COME!

Look at this, this right here NEWS THAT I AM ALREADY MAKING AMERICA noā€¦ THE WORLD GREAT AGAIN!

RUSSIA READY TO RESTORE U.S. RELATIONS! Breath-taking and epic!

Instead of fighting me, American needs to join with me and become part of this GREAT NATION.

I still almost pity Sanders. He was almost great but then he blew it supporting Hillary! Despicable! Traitor to his own ideals!

MY FAVORITE PHOTO! Your hand was too limp Barack. That presidency wore you down. Time for fresh blood to take the throne!

And one more thing folks. Do not ever doubt me again. NEVER DOUBT ME! I can do anything I work hard enough for and so can you. Let's MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT AGAIN!

#iwin

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Also seeing how Trump Pussy-grab is now our oldest president assuming office, how will the aging affect him?

He's going to be the oldest president of the United States. The absolute oldest. No one will be older than him.

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Warning: incoming rant

For fucks sake, I would love to go onto national TV to tell these people making up bullshit stories and crying like Trump is going to throw minorities into interment camps to cut that shit out, it makes those doing peaceful protests and those with legitimate concerns about Trump look like reactionary crybabies. For fucks sake, I'm not happy with the way the election turned out either, but I'm not running for the bomb shelter, crashing the Canadian election site or committing blatant slander against those that disagree with me (slander that helped Pussy-grab win btw) If you are going to protest, keep it peaceful, keep it civil, and for the love of fuck, your slanderous stories are doing more to split the country in half than anything Trump is doing right now.

However, on the flip-side, I would also like to remind Trump supporters that we have the right to protest the president and if the left had to put up with




and years of "He's not my president" then you can jolly well deal with #NotMyPresident and people protesting Trump if they are doing it peacefully. Every president in American history was protested, Trump will be too, your god-emperor is not immune to it. We live in a country where nearly half the people in it are against the current leaders at any given time, people are going to voice their disagreement. That's America, that's how it has always been, this is nothing new, so stop pretending that if Clinton won, what we have right now would not be replaced by angry Trump supporters.

If both sides can just stop acting like spoiled children, that would be great. I know no one who this is aimed at will read this, if I post it on Twitter, it would be ignored due to me having no followers, but I just needed to get this off my chest.

Nobody disagrees with their right to hold up snarky signs and chant things.
Have any of these anti-Trump protests simply involved that?
Sun goes down and the fires start. Did the KKK even light anything on fire when Obama was elected?

lisalombs wrote:

Nobody disagrees with their right to hold up snarky signs and chant things.
Have any of these anti-Trump protests simply involved that?
Sun goes down and the fires start. Did the KKK even light anything on fire when Obama was elected?

I've seen plenty of them that were peaceful, with few if any getting violent. Also, I guarantee the KKK lighted a fire when Obama was elected somewhere.

Also, yes, people on Twitter, Facebook and other sites have been filled with people telling people upset with Trumps victory to "just accept it" and "accept him as your president, he won fair and square" and the like.

Anti-Trump!? I am devoted to making this country GREAT AGAIN in its dire time of need. Why are people so scared of THE BIG BAD TRUMP? I can tell you why. The media and its liberal bias has been fear mongering against me this whole election cycle. This media bias is in the polls which is why people were so shocked I inevitably won and this media bias against me is poisoning the minds of millions of Americans. Disgusting! Fierce real independent news needs to get its facts straight and stand up loudly proclaiming "Trump is here to make America great again!" Am I perfect? I would like to think so but I at least deserve a fair chance! THIS IS A DEMOCRACY NOT YOUR TUMBLR ACCOUNT! Direct your anger at the establishment. They are the reason Bernie lost in the first place.

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