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Last posted Jul 04, 2018 at 11:03PM EDT. Added Apr 07, 2015 at 03:01AM EDT
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Is next week the last batch of episode for the season?

Supposedly, yes. However, once the Nuke ends, they immediately continue with a few episodes of Season 4 (although this time on a weekly schedule at least, not daily).

The only thing I could find is a video of someone just holding a video camera up to their TV.

So it exists, but it’s shit.

There are actual TVrips, but they seem to be in rather crappy quality. So yeah, it's probably better to wait until Monday.

So, um… I couldn't resist. I was going to wait for Beta to appear in normal quality, but the thirst for more Peridot and Lapis was too strong.

I won't reveal anything, but holy fuck even more shit is about to go down next week. Miss Sugar’s wild ride appears to be nearing its most intense point yet.

Discussion time…
Regardless of the moral considerations of using it…

Do you think the breaking point would actually have made a difference in the war?

I personally don't think so, at least not from the weapon itself. For beginners, the reason why most Crystal Gems were lost was because of the Corruption of the Diamonds, which was a single, swift, earth covering attack. The breaking point wouldn't have kept that from happening, and second, the breaking point does strike me as a kind of slow, impractical weapon. First, you have to actually hit the gem to break it, which is a small, probably moving target, and while the breaking point can probably destroy the physical form if it doesn't hit the gem, is still a slow weapon that has to pull back the piston every time before landing a proper hit, a hit that can be evaded more easily than stuff like axes, swords and spears. Now, what could have changed the course of the war would have the psychological effect that it would have caused on the Gems; Basically, it would mean for the army that they are done pulling punches and would lead to an overall more aggressive, merciless approach, and, who knows, maybe with the CG increasing the pressure they would have outright taken over homeworld and destroyed the diamonds… Or, maybe the diamonds would have just deployed the corruption earlier. Is hard to know.

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Tentacles wrote:

Discussion time…
Regardless of the moral considerations of using it…

Do you think the breaking point would actually have made a difference in the war?

I personally don't think so, at least not from the weapon itself. For beginners, the reason why most Crystal Gems were lost was because of the Corruption of the Diamonds, which was a single, swift, earth covering attack. The breaking point wouldn't have kept that from happening, and second, the breaking point does strike me as a kind of slow, impractical weapon. First, you have to actually hit the gem to break it, which is a small, probably moving target, and while the breaking point can probably destroy the physical form if it doesn't hit the gem, is still a slow weapon that has to pull back the piston every time before landing a proper hit, a hit that can be evaded more easily than stuff like axes, swords and spears. Now, what could have changed the course of the war would have the psychological effect that it would have caused on the Gems; Basically, it would mean for the army that they are done pulling punches and would lead to an overall more aggressive, merciless approach, and, who knows, maybe with the CG increasing the pressure they would have outright taken over homeworld and destroyed the diamonds… Or, maybe the diamonds would have just deployed the corruption earlier. Is hard to know.

I think yeah, it probably would have.

It seems clear that the Crystal Gems, against all odds, were already doing very well. Two (well, three) Gems alone taking down three entire battalions of Quartzes is a serious force to be reckoned with. And that was even despite the fact that they were fighting on uneven terms – Homeworld Gems didn't hesitate to shatter enemy gems, whereas the rebels avoided that. So even if the Breking Point wasn't such an effective weapon itself, the mere fact of employing it would mean that the Crystal Gems are now okay with shattering their enemies too. That would have made them even more successful, and then maybe they could have driven Homeworld away from Earth much earlier, before they even came up with the Corrupting Light or planted the Cluster.

This makes me curious how hard it actually is to break a gem. We see lapis get cracked from being stepped on, and amethyst het cracked by landing on a rock from atop of the crystal gems hideout hill. Doesn't give the impression that the breaking point would be that effective of a weapon, though you do have to consider this.

One hit by the breaking point would more then be enough to poof a gem. Then, another hit, to shatter it. If you were to outfit an entire army with this weapon, it could revolutionize the war. Remember, this is a rebellion of gems, not all of them are going to be jaspers and quartz soliders. The gem rebels would probably be composed of a ton of different types of gems, not all of them suited for combat.

But this weapon, would give every gem a 1 hit kill ability. From a tiny peridot to a huge quartz solider, anyone wearing this could poof a gem in 1 hit, and kill them in 2. If Bismuth's plan was to outfit every gem in the CG's with a breaking point, every gem made into a fighter, then that would be a force to truly be reckon with and fear. And think, if she made this, what would bismuth do with even more advanced tecnology at her disposal? Imagine robonoid orbs, with breaking points that could be deployed, or a shattering missle that could be fired and precisely hit its target.

This weapon doesn't just represent a bad weapon. It represents an entire arms race and shift in thought that homeworld should never be allowed to explore.

Black Graphic T wrote:

This makes me curious how hard it actually is to break a gem. We see lapis get cracked from being stepped on, and amethyst het cracked by landing on a rock from atop of the crystal gems hideout hill. Doesn't give the impression that the breaking point would be that effective of a weapon, though you do have to consider this.

One hit by the breaking point would more then be enough to poof a gem. Then, another hit, to shatter it. If you were to outfit an entire army with this weapon, it could revolutionize the war. Remember, this is a rebellion of gems, not all of them are going to be jaspers and quartz soliders. The gem rebels would probably be composed of a ton of different types of gems, not all of them suited for combat.

But this weapon, would give every gem a 1 hit kill ability. From a tiny peridot to a huge quartz solider, anyone wearing this could poof a gem in 1 hit, and kill them in 2. If Bismuth's plan was to outfit every gem in the CG's with a breaking point, every gem made into a fighter, then that would be a force to truly be reckon with and fear. And think, if she made this, what would bismuth do with even more advanced tecnology at her disposal? Imagine robonoid orbs, with breaking points that could be deployed, or a shattering missle that could be fired and precisely hit its target.

This weapon doesn't just represent a bad weapon. It represents an entire arms race and shift in thought that homeworld should never be allowed to explore.

Well, that hill is rather high, so a falling Amethyst would make a pretty huge impact on the ground. As for Lapis, she appears to be an aristocratic Gem like Sapphire, not suited for combat, so maybe her gemstone is simply not supposed to be as strong as those of the warrior Gems? I don't know how well this fits with real-life gemology though.

I thought the idea of the Breaking Point was that one hit is already enough to shatter a gem straight away? Unless you mean that even if it's not fired at the gemstone directly but elsewhere at the body, it still hurts a Gem enough to poof it? Anyway, you are right about how effective would it be if produced en mass. Even more so if you consider Rose's abilities: she would be able to deploy legions of sentient watermelons/mosses/whatever equipped with Breaking Points.

I always tend to Liken the Breaking Point to a Single target Nuke. A weapon so powerful and dangerous that it can cause a massive arms race. Even if the War was ended, it could still start a cold war as a result of an arms race.

Everything listed above. That goes against every single fiber of Rose's being. And is tantamount to forfeiting any desire or option of peace for sooner or later tensions will rise an another war will break out, one that could lead to gem extinction.

After Shock wrote:

I always tend to Liken the Breaking Point to a Single target Nuke. A weapon so powerful and dangerous that it can cause a massive arms race. Even if the War was ended, it could still start a cold war as a result of an arms race.

Everything listed above. That goes against every single fiber of Rose's being. And is tantamount to forfeiting any desire or option of peace for sooner or later tensions will rise an another war will break out, one that could lead to gem extinction.

Does that mean the corruption light was a non-lethal planetary nuke? The fact that an extraterrestrial race of rock people having any form of nukes heebies my jeebies.

Black Graphic T wrote:

This makes me curious how hard it actually is to break a gem. We see lapis get cracked from being stepped on, and amethyst het cracked by landing on a rock from atop of the crystal gems hideout hill. Doesn't give the impression that the breaking point would be that effective of a weapon, though you do have to consider this.

One hit by the breaking point would more then be enough to poof a gem. Then, another hit, to shatter it. If you were to outfit an entire army with this weapon, it could revolutionize the war. Remember, this is a rebellion of gems, not all of them are going to be jaspers and quartz soliders. The gem rebels would probably be composed of a ton of different types of gems, not all of them suited for combat.

But this weapon, would give every gem a 1 hit kill ability. From a tiny peridot to a huge quartz solider, anyone wearing this could poof a gem in 1 hit, and kill them in 2. If Bismuth's plan was to outfit every gem in the CG's with a breaking point, every gem made into a fighter, then that would be a force to truly be reckon with and fear. And think, if she made this, what would bismuth do with even more advanced tecnology at her disposal? Imagine robonoid orbs, with breaking points that could be deployed, or a shattering missle that could be fired and precisely hit its target.

This weapon doesn't just represent a bad weapon. It represents an entire arms race and shift in thought that homeworld should never be allowed to explore.

Bismuth’s stupid ass also didn't take into account what happens when the breaking point gets into enemy hands and they easily replicate it. Then no one will fight with cool magical weapons anymore…oh yeah and everyone dies

Thats pretty fucked up too, its pretty clear that theres no super cool gem after life where you fly around with gem wings or what ever and hang out with gem Jesus but that you just straight up stop existing forever. Like you're just noting

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TheLastMethBender wrote:

Bismuth’s stupid ass also didn't take into account what happens when the breaking point gets into enemy hands and they easily replicate it. Then no one will fight with cool magical weapons anymore…oh yeah and everyone dies

Thats pretty fucked up too, its pretty clear that theres no super cool gem after life where you fly around with gem wings or what ever and hang out with gem Jesus but that you just straight up stop existing forever. Like you're just noting

Not nothing, per se, thought you'll wish it was. The Gem Shards still retain a level of sentence and consciousness…which they spend every waking moment trying to go back to their original form. Exhibit A: The Cluster.

In other words they become an equivalent to zombies. Same goes for Corrupted Gems to an extent

After Shock wrote:

Not nothing, per se, thought you'll wish it was. The Gem Shards still retain a level of sentence and consciousness…which they spend every waking moment trying to go back to their original form. Exhibit A: The Cluster.

In other words they become an equivalent to zombies. Same goes for Corrupted Gems to an extent

Honestly, thinking through the larger implications of what introducing the breaking point would have meant kind of takes away from the episode.

Like, what I appreciated about Rose and Steven's rejection of it was that they decided to give up an advantageous but horrifying weapon because using it would be unethical. But that all goes down the drain if using the breaking point would have been a stupid idea anyway.

It doesn't matter whether an idea is ethical or not when it's clearly also bad. The question becomes moot then.

It seems that Jasper died as she lived, losing to a fusion. Also, Pink Diamond was Jasper's and Rose's original diamond, and Rose did something to her. Does this disprove that Rose=Pink Diamond theory, maybe, maybe not, but looks like we'll find out tomorrow.

Well, Well, Well. So many things to talk about. Jasper's from earth. Jasper was one of pink diamonds soldiers. Rose did something to Pink Diamond. And that is why Jasper has such a hate for Rose Quartz.

The fusion of smokey quartz looked goofy, but seeing their personality at work, as well as their moveset and such, it's grown on me much more. Seeing the design in motion really helped solidify it as a good design.

Lapis continues to baffle me in terms of her personality, but imo that's a pretty good thing.

So I guess Jasper's redemption is the same as bismuth's, maybe it'll happen but not for a while at least. That's good. At least she wasn't shattered, just horribly corrupted. Also, corruption appears to be like a disease, like a literal viral spread linked to ones mental space. Perhaps its tied to negative emotions and anger, which considering the origin of the corruption being from betrayl, would make it a hard thing to combat.

Maybe steven will mind meld with jasper to help cure her of her current corruption. And find out what happened to pink diamond. Being a fan of vampire the masquerade, and thinking few others will get what I mean by this, I think it's possible rose quartz might have preformed a Diablerie on pink diamond. Look it up if you want to know what that means. :P

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First of all, I was absolutely delighted to see that Lapis and Peridot were getting along well at the barn, and that they now create art and watch Camp Pining Hearts together. I like how Peridot really cares about Lapis and her feelings ("Jasper" is now a trigger word). Also, she asks "Lapis, fly us in" – does this mean Peridot flying on Lapis is a regular thing they do?

Beta Kidnergarten being a shithole made in a desperate hurry explains a lot. I take it the Rebels were really winning, and drove the Homeworld Gems to resort to what is en equivalent of enlisting young boys who can barely even hold a gun to fight in a war because you simply have nothing else to do. No wonder Bismuth and Garnet managed to put down theree batallions alone! But Jasper is different for some reason, a perfect Quartz apparently. Maybe Homeworld put everything they had left on Earth into making her, sort of like their last resort? (well, second-to-last, after the Corrupting Light)

So glad to see Steven finally being able to fuse with another Gem. Although I was hoping it would be with Peridot… But whatever. Smokey Quartz physically looks like your average tumblr fan, but hey, at least they(?) have a fun personality and are a good fighter. And the battle yo-yo is a surprisingly effective weapon!

I can't believe Jasper is fucking dead. Again. At least this time it's for real. Well, she had it coming. But the insight into her motives brings some interesting revelations. What exactly did Rose do to Pink Diamond?! Shattered her? Corrupted her? The more we learn about Rose, the less of a pure cinnamon roll she seems…

Finally, that last scene. Lapis seems to have been working together with Garnet and Pearl. I hope it means she'll be willing to forgive them too. Well, at the very least, they aren't floating in the water bubbles alongside the Rubies, so that's some progress!

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That was one heck of a ride there. First off, glad that Steven got Amethyst too her senses and told her that in away, it's good to be weird. Secondly holy smokes, Smoky Quartz is here. I kinda like the design. I wanna draw her(them?). Would be good with Sardonyx in a knock knock joke. Finally, holy crud! Jasper went off her rocker there, so badly she was going corrupted. But does it give the idea did Rose do something to trigger these memories? And what did Jasper mean when she said "Pink Diamond"?

Platus's edit: fixed the spoiler tag

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Once again, questions have been answered, and more questions have been raised. Well now it seems that the "Rose is Pink Diamond" theory is significantly deader then it has ever been in the past. Not 100% ruled out, but 99% ruled out.

Also, Smoky Quartz is real, Peridot's metal powers are used for more than just simple party tricks, and Jasper finally has a complete mental breakdown.

All is as it should be (except for all that other stuff, but we'll deal with that later)

Jasper turned into a charr from Guild Wars 2 when fusing with the quartz monster, and nobody can tell me otherwise:

And apparently, fusing with a corrupted gem has some sort of zombie affect on the non-corrupted partner. I actually love the fact Jasper didn't get redeemed, since it perfectly fits with her character. That, and the fact she had a legitimate gripe like Bismuth (who technically isn't a villain), with Rose being a manipulative bastard in her eyes and the fact Rose most likely killed Pink Diamond.

This makes me come up with a theory. The Diamonds more than likely control types of gemstones, not colors. Pink probably controls quartz gems (Jasper and Rose), Blue probably controls corundum gemstones (Ruby and Sapphire), and Yellow probably controls whatever type of gem Peridot is, with a few pearls sprinkled in here and there. As for White…I have no idea. At this point, Pink has more information revealed about her.

Now onto Smokey Quartz, the Steven/Amethyst fusion, who I'll be referring to as "they," kind of like what happened with Stevonnie. They're now my three-armed waifu, and I love them. I never expected a yo-yo, but it fits the childlike personalities of Steven and Amethyst. I think this also sort of confirms that most, if not all of Rose's fusions end in the "Quartz" surname.

Holy shit, I didn't expect Jasper to become corrupted at all. I found the process to be very disturbing to watch, but that was probably the intention. So I guess this concludes the hunt for Jasper. And will we finally find out what happened to Pink Diamond?

So what we learned is that Steven can fuse with gems. I mean, Garnet alluded to it back in Giant Woman but we finally get to see what it actually looks like. I like Smokey Quartz and she's a lot like Sardonyx if you ask me. We also learned that normal gems can fuse with corrupted gems, as Jasper did with the corrupted quartz. And finally, we know Rose had something to do with the downfall of Pink Diamond, who's actually Jaspers' diamond instead of Yellow Diamond like we initially thought.

And I'm guessing the next episode will have to do with the Ruby squad's return to Earth.

Also, glad to see Peridot and Lapis getting along.
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As much as I like Jasper, the consequences of messing around with the corruption virus was a ticking bomb and ready to explode. She should've listened… and yet, the last words she gave just gives more clues about the dark secrets of Rose Quartz, like, what the hell, dude? What in the world could have happened to Pink Diamond that caused Jasper to deliver such traumatic scream? I don't think it was caused by the corruption taking over, her remembering the incident was enough. Something really twisted must have happened to the big boss of both Rose and Jasper.

In the meantime, now that Jasper is bubbled alongside Bismuth, the Ruby Squad is here with souvenirs from their time in Neptune… if they had indeed set foot on the surface of the planet in the first place.

As a bonus, I'm now imagining a reenactment of this particular scene of Twisted Metal 2. During the Rebel War, Jasper lies on the ground as she screams from the top of her lungs "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?" to Rose Quartz as she stands high above the ground, overlooking the chaos of the war.

Necromagenvion wrote:

As much as I like Jasper, the consequences of messing around with the corruption virus was a ticking bomb and ready to explode. She should've listened… and yet, the last words she gave just gives more clues about the dark secrets of Rose Quartz, like, what the hell, dude? What in the world could have happened to Pink Diamond that caused Jasper to deliver such traumatic scream? I don't think it was caused by the corruption taking over, her remembering the incident was enough. Something really twisted must have happened to the big boss of both Rose and Jasper.

In the meantime, now that Jasper is bubbled alongside Bismuth, the Ruby Squad is here with souvenirs from their time in Neptune… if they had indeed set foot on the surface of the planet in the first place.

As a bonus, I'm now imagining a reenactment of this particular scene of Twisted Metal 2. During the Rebel War, Jasper lies on the ground as she screams from the top of her lungs "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?" to Rose Quartz as she stands high above the ground, overlooking the chaos of the war.

Neptune is a gas planet, it doesn't even have a surface

Not matter how we see it, the show is really heading towards a peak. Any moment now Homeworld is gonna show up again, and it's going to be something more than 5 stupid Rubies.
But now, moving into the episodes themselves…
"Beta" was a very charming episode. It's really good to see Peridot and Lapis getting along and adapting to earth life. The whole art thing really makes it look again like they are better at being earthlings than the main Crystal Gem themselves. Also, yeah, Lapidot lives stronger than ever. Peridot once again makes sure to keep her position as the main source of exposition, this time telling us all about the kindergarten beta and showing how desperate has homeworld at that point, which also basically demonstrates one thing: At some point of the war, the Crystal Gems stopped being underdogs and instead really put Homeworld against the ropes. Makes sense, otherwise, why would homeworld use something like the corruption of the diamonds? But seriously, it's also pretty obvious the corruption of the diamonds was made as a last minute decision, because otherwise they would have pulled a organized retreat before using it. Probably the Crystal Gems were in the verge of winning the war. But anyway, I got sidetracked.

Yadda Yadda, Jasper is the perfect quartz, let's move onto "Earthlings".

Alright, This episode was of the "epic" kind. It seems these kinds of episodes are becoming a lot more frequent, but I ain't complaining. Smoky Quartz was just as almost every other fusion so far (with the exception of Stevonnie) in two senses: she had a very original design that you couldn't have guessed before seeing it and, she was preeetty strong. I also liked how Peridot's attempts at attacking Jasper with a metal bar were played for jokes most of the episode, yet they were also a chekov's gun since Peridot gave the finishing hit. And Jasper…. Now we finally know why she was so zealous about beating Rose Quartz. Also, about what she said about the way she recruits gems… I don't think is a bad thing to do, but she's basically right, you know? Also, I think that Smoky Quartz undid not because of the shock of Jasper corrupting, but instead because Steven felt the need to help Jasper, while Amethyst was more cautious about it.
And, of course, there's the elephant on the room… What did Rose to pink diamond? It could always turn out that Jasper was misinformed, but this almost debunks the theory that Pink Diamond was involved in the rebellion. I honestly had a picture of Rose Quartz as a well meaning, idealist leader that ocasionally took morally ambiguous decisions for pragmatic reasons, what with this being a war and all, and Bismuth only strengthened that notion in my mind. However, if she killed Pink Diamond or something of the sort… Then I really have to rethink who is Rose Quartz. Though, while before I took that theory only half-seriously, now I seriously believe and will do so until is debunked, that Lion is seriously Pink Diamond, or at least what left of her.

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It seems like Jasper really has become addicted to being fused, especially with the line "nobody I fuse with ever wants to stay…" And mental state is indeed a very big part of corruption, since the angrier Jasper got, the more corrupted she became.

I had a feeling early on that Jasper might have been Pink Diamond gem, and it was pretty obvious that Rose was, too, but I'm glad it's been confirmed now. Now the only diamond who hasn't been mentioned yet is White diamond, I think.

The whole revenge thing Jasper has (HAD, sorry) going on might explain why there were only three diamonds with the corruption song.

Alright, In a different matter, I checked the wiki, and there are four episodes left for the nuke to finish exploding, three of which are actually season three, and the last one begins season four. . After that, there are another four more episodes that will be emitted in regular (if this show has such a thing) schedule weekly on Thursdays. What happens after that is unknown, but is most likely an hiatus.
You know…. it's weird, but I kinda welcome an hiatus right now. These last weeks have been kind of overwhelming, and a hiatus would a nice opportunity for a lot of fanwork to be born and blossom from all these episodes, and for overall lore to truly sink in, for new theories to compete and some to become outstanding…. You know, the typical stuff that a fandom does the first months of an hiatus. Of course, in 3 or so months I will probably be missing the show already, and it probably will still be out of sight, but such is life in this fandom.

I welcome the hiatus cause then I don't have to talk about this show using the spoiler textile. :/

Still sticking with my theory of Diablerie. Until shown otherwise or shown conflicting materials on the nature of gems.

Wallstreet Wolfman wrote:

Wait, did Earthlings air today? I feel like I'm out of the loop.

Yes it did. Beta and Earthlings together formed a two-part episode.

So anyone want to talk about the fact that Peridot and Lapis had literally no concept of art, but did have a concept of music?

And how Centipeetle described whatever corrupted all the gems as being a "song".

And the fact that the Crystal Gems are always singing.

It all obviously means something, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out.

Platus wrote:

Yes it did. Beta and Earthlings together formed a two-part episode.

I probably watched it without knowing, if the spoilers are any indication, since there wasn't really a title card. Either that, or I didn't notice it.

Imperator-Rex wrote:

So anyone want to talk about the fact that Peridot and Lapis had literally no concept of art, but did have a concept of music?

And how Centipeetle described whatever corrupted all the gems as being a "song".

And the fact that the Crystal Gems are always singing.

It all obviously means something, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out.

Well, let me remind you that Steven taught Peridot about creating music and what it means back in "It could have been great".

Lapidot is growing stronger and I'm loving it, Rubies are still hilariously dumb, and I can't believe Steven is fucking dead.

All that stuff pales in comparison to the episode's great revelation. Did Rose actually shatter Pink Diamond?! Was it before her confrontation with Bismuth on the topic of gem shattering, or after? What did she use, if their weapons were not designed for shattering gems? What if Rose was framed? Those Rubies are easy to manipulate, after all. So many questions…

Furthermore, here is an interesting observation other people on the internet made.
Look at the worlds that other Diamonds had:

Now look at Pink:

Earth was all she had.

Until Rose came long.

Holy shit.

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Wait…..

So these rubies were(or are) under alliance of Yellow Diamond or Pink Diamond. If so, why? That and why they worship Jasper doesn't make a lick of sense. Something tells me that Rose is keeping some skeletons in the closet. There's something wrong fishy around this Pink Diamond-Rose Quartz rebellion story.

Personally what I find most interesting is Pearl's reaction to hearing about how Pink Diamond was shattered by Rose. I can't quite tell if it's a "I never knew" reaction, or a "I knew all along but repressed the shit out of it" reaction. My money is on the latter.

Also apparently eyeball was on Earth when it happened, meaning that she is a Gen 1 Ruby. Personally I suspected that the Rubies were all Gen 2, as a means of explaining why they were so stupid, but I guess they've just always been that way.

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Sadistic Pillow wrote:

Wait…..

So these rubies were(or are) under alliance of Yellow Diamond or Pink Diamond. If so, why? That and why they worship Jasper doesn't make a lick of sense. Something tells me that Rose is keeping some skeletons in the closet. There's something wrong fishy around this Pink Diamond-Rose Quartz rebellion story.

Jasper used to be under Pink Diamond's alliance during the war, but now she works for Yellow Diamond. Since these Rubies were sent for Jasper after she disappeared, they are most likely Yellow Diamond's too. However, Eyeball may have been Pink Diamond's during the war, like Jasper, because she apparently was there when Pink Diamond was Rose'd.

Jasper simply made a prominent reputation during the war, so other warriors, such as these Rubies, look up to her. What's strange about with that?

Things get darker and more puzzling every second. The biggest revelation being the shattered condition of Pink Diamond. The one-eyed ruby witnessed the incident but, even with that information available, the questions won't stop piling up. Possibilities, many of them indicating that Rose did and didn't do it, whether if the fall of the pink boss was a direct or indirect cause. What if it was someone else (Bismuth using the Breaking Point, for instance)? What if it wasn't? What if it was a kill by proxy? Hell, what if, against all odds, Pink Diamond was kept alive in a state worse than death? By the end of the day, I feel, everyone can be a suspect.

Wars can change anyone, turn the most innocents into ruthless, filthy degenerates. What will happen then once the truth comes to light? Will they be able to face it? Will they have the guts to face it and receive judgment for it? One thing's for sure: disturbing things happened and many (alive, corrupted or dead) were left traumatized.

Now, back to the thing that I ignored before typing impulsively, or more properly, screwing up big time public knowledge, I apologize about the Neptune case in my previous comment which baldarek generously pointed out.

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Aside from the other implications the episode talked about, what I wanna know is what that floating circle thing on the second floor of the moonbase was. They ignored it the first time because of Peridot and I thought that was the whole reason they were going up there.

baldarek wrote:

Jasper used to be under Pink Diamond's alliance during the war, but now she works for Yellow Diamond. Since these Rubies were sent for Jasper after she disappeared, they are most likely Yellow Diamond's too. However, Eyeball may have been Pink Diamond's during the war, like Jasper, because she apparently was there when Pink Diamond was Rose'd.

Jasper simply made a prominent reputation during the war, so other warriors, such as these Rubies, look up to her. What's strange about with that?

If Pink and Yellow were alliances then, where was she and her soldiers when Pink Diamond was poofed? I'm surprise they think that YD has gone outside of homeworld.

Tonight's reveal:

"I saw Rose shatter Pink Diamond!"

But earlier she said:

Bismuth (holding Rose's sword): "I designed this sword for a far fight; it can cut through a gem's physical form in an instant, destroying the body…but never the gem."

Who is to say that Pink Diamond is dead? Or that Rose actually killed her? We are kinda going off of the witness testimony of a super-loyal ruby with no depth perception who got tricked into thinking taller Amethyst was sunburned Jasper.
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Steven gets spaced. That's the end of the series, gnight folks!

roll credits

Okay, joking. But man, what a cliffhanger to end on, am I right? Also all that delicious lore! I love these rubies, they're are all just big bundles of fun.

So Pink Daimond is a martyr for homeworld, not reviled by deeply missed. Hows that for a revelation, huh? And killed by rose no less, like I thought she did in my post above. Of course, missing the whole eating her soul and obtaining greater power. Though we don't know if that hasn't happened just yer.

Anyway, you guys are freaking that Rose was a liar or that this changes things with rose, but honestly, it kinda doesn't. If anything, it reinforces the fact that she stands against shattering gems. Think about it for a sec, Rose Quartz is a solider whose purpose is to fight and heal, and she decides for whatever reason to turn on pink diamond. Now, presumably, the war was turning south if Jasper was made, because jasper came from beta, to try and help against the war.

Now then, she has fought this war, and she's winning the war. Then she confronts one of the daimonds, the presumable leader of homeworlds forces on earth. Rose fights Pink Daimond, Rose Defeats the Daimond, but the daimond refuses to give up. She threatens to shatter the gems of her friends, with the last of her power, and so Rose makes a call. She shatters pink daimond to save the others, and in that moment, realizes the mistake she's made.

Rose vows to never shatter another gem ever again. She realizes the horror that she's done but she can't take it back. In comes bismuth offering an even easier way to kill gems. And finally the corruption wave, done when homeworld realized that a daimond, one of the pillars of their entire society, haas been killed.

Kinda explains a lot actually, like how rose might not have been able to do the things steven did. Because of guilt and doubt, guilt over killing pink daimond, and doubt that she deserves happiness in being able to help her friends.

Sadistic Pillow wrote:

If Pink and Yellow were alliances then, where was she and her soldiers when Pink Diamond was poofed? I'm surprise they think that YD has gone outside of homeworld.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

The Diamonds don't all sit together in one room, they each have their own court. Because when we saw Yellow and Blue Diamonds, there weren't any other Diamonds nearby. So when Pink Diamond was (presumably) killed, the other Diamonds weren't there, as they were all probably busy with their own businesses.

I've been staying away from most of the internet for the last 3-4 weeks so that I don't get spoiled, with pretty big success. I'll try and summarise my thoughts on each episode quickly.

DBD: Pretty fun, I absolutely loved seeing Steven's superstrength finally being used and emphasised.
Mr. Greg: Not gonna lie, it made me ship Grearl very hard. Good songs (with the exception of the one they sung right before going to Empire City, not Don't Cost Nothing), very good animation, and seeing Steven forming a keikaku of his own was great.
TStR: I expected a fusion of any of the three, or a fusion of all three, but it was still good. Seeing new powers is always welcome, especially Peridot who didn't have any. Though it seems like some people still believe she can shapeshift, but I personally reject that. I think Metalbending is something all Peridots have that can't be "removed" (like Sapphires with future vision or Rose Quartzes with healing power).
TNL: I'm just glad that Lars didn't have any control over Steven's body. Pearl would have shattered herself if she saw Lars!Steven.
BCD: Being honest, I didn't watch it. I tried to but the video players wouldn't work for me. From summaries it seems that Steven was acting way, way out of character.
RW: It was funny, I feel really bad for Ronaldo loosing his girlfriend, but it was nice seeing two otherwise irrelevant background characters being relevant (Ticket Girl and Suitcase Sam). And it was a nice touch having the other three CGs unquestionably follow Steven with his plan, whereas they might have not done so or slipped up if they were the same as they were in S1.
KPDS: I don't have much to say about it. It was a nice, good episode, but I'm not really feeling compelled to watch it again.
MR: It was great seeing Peetle again, and it was sad seeing her getting corrupt again. Steven's healing power finally works again (though it's probably always worked, just in a different way), I'd definitely reckon that as good news.
AAS: I wasn't expecting to see Jasper this early, and desperately wanting to fuse with Lapis again. Pic below proves to be more relevant than ever, yet again.

GtB: Rose was a big goof, confirmed. It's almost a wonder she managed to lead a revolution. Maybe conversation and being social isn't one of her qualities?
GH: Nice seeing that Pearl is able to joke. Again, I didn't expect Jasper to be back THIS quickly, especially right after AAS.
CtW: Poor Amethyst, I felt really bad for her after I watched the episode. And about time that Stevonnie actually did something beside run, jump, dance, and give Lars an erection, it's just a big shame that it took 2 years. Too little too late, personally. Oh, and Jasper keeps getting BTFO'd.
Svs.A: I'm really glad seeing Steven training, but it's also really heartwrenching to see Amethyst still hurting. Steven's spike bubble was cool and a very pleasant surprise to say the least.
Bismuth: I was trying to stay away from judging Bismuth (the character, that is, not the episode) before I saw her episode, and now that we've finally seen it I have to say that she's probably my Worst Gem. I think that if the Breaking Point was actually used in the war, it would not only have escalated to an entirely new level, but it would have also created a divide between the Crystal Gems between those who were okay with shattering Gems, and those who only poofed them. This could've caused them to loose, considering that they just BARELY won and only three CGs survived, not counting Amethyst.
Beta: Not much to say about this, I guess it's good that Lapis and Peridot are able to get along, after all.
Earthlings: This really was a great episode, definitely a favourite and I could see myself watching this one time after time. I'm so glad that Steven finally fused with a Gem (though I'm sure you people already figured this by now) and though I did want him to fuse with Pearl first, I have to admit that it makes sense for his first partner to be Amethyst considering the development they've both gotten recently.
And I have to say, I really do like Smokey (Smoky?) Quartz. They had a great first impression on me, almost everything was on-point. Cute, fun personality, great fighting, and cool weapon. I'd definitely love to see more of them soon. But this is something I've kind of been wondering recently, did Rose and Amethyst ever fuse? It felt like the first time for them, but that could be from Steven being, well, not Rose.

Oh, and as for Back to the Moon

It was pretty fun, although by the end it very quickly escalated, bringing back Sardonyx and with the Ruby fusion pulling Steven out in space. If that's not a cliffhanger, I don't know what is.

Pic below proves to be more relevant than ever, yet again.

I still don't understand what is this pic supposed to mean. Is it laughing at Jaspis shippers, or at the notion that it's the worst relationship imaginable? Because, you know, that notion is kind of true.

baldarek wrote:

Pic below proves to be more relevant than ever, yet again.

I still don't understand what is this pic supposed to mean. Is it laughing at Jaspis shippers, or at the notion that it's the worst relationship imaginable? Because, you know, that notion is kind of true.

As far as I know, it's poking fun at Jaspis shippers, yes. Really though, Jasper and Lapis' relationship is very complicated because both of them are the abuser and the abused. It's definitely gonna take a long while before that mess is sorted out.

Smokey Quartz's initial impression on me wasn't great, that being the first 10 seconds of her being formed. Looked at the design, and was like, "Really? This tumblr reject?", cause honestly with the freckles and hodge podged clothes, it really did give off that impression, at first.

Then the fighting happened, and it was really good. Felt a lot like kung fu panda given the size of their fusion. I really like their personality as a fusion, but also how they're attacks are all about unpredictability and not fighting head-on. Dodges, The Yo-Yo, and them impresssion kung fu dodging moves, made me really appreciate this fusion as great.

I guess you can never really judge a design until you actually see it in motion, huh?

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