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Surprisingly mature topics for a kid's show, great songs in this episode, and a bit of closure on Pearl and Greg feuding. Tight episode, nearly teared up during Pearl's song.

Mr. Greg was a very interesting episode, taking on the broadway theme. I like how they strengthen the relationship between Greg and Pearl. It was a very emotional and powerful episode too,especially Pearl and Steven sang.

A very good episode. A couple moments do truly pull at your heartstrings life few episodes do, and is really great to see Pearl and Greg finally address face to face the elephant on the room and finally fully close this gap between themselves completely. I'm sure both of them came out better from this experience. Unfortunately, strong episodes like this often fall prey to the format of the show: The 15 minutes format always feels lacking with episodes that rise above the others, which is really a shame.
Also, Greg definitely remains rich, and I can't help but wonder how will this affect things in the future.

So the greenest of triangles discovered Twitter, rigged carnival games, and her magnetic powers. We learned Honeworld is fucked, in terms of resources. The episode itself was an overall fun experience with its setting and interactions. And I swear, Amethyst called Peridot "Paypod" at the end before the star outro transition.

That just makes Yellow Diamond putting interest in the cluster over trying to get resources from earth even worse.

As Always, Peridot episodes are inherently very funny. It was quite a surprise to suddenly know that homeworld is in fact struggling with resources and the quality of new gems is suffering from it. I do wonder if Peridot is truly unable to shapeshift… And for her newly discovered Psychokinesis, I wonder if that ability was intended when she was created; it it wasn't, then it means that homeworld doesn't fully control the gem creation process, though that could be inferred already from the fact that a Pearl can summon a weapon (given their purpose, there's no reason for them to have this ability). If it was… Then why wasn't she trained to make use of it? It also maakes me wonder… Are there "old" Peridots with a bigger amount of innate abilities? Older Technicians that could do at least some of the stuff that the limb enhancers did from the get go? Are the initially apparently very advanced limb enhancers just a "make-do" solution? Is the current technological advancement of homeworld a case of "neccesity is the mother of invention" since they faced and obstacle to their normal way of expanding? Has homeworld been unable to build another colony since earth (which would mean that planets viable for gem development are rare and limited; This both justifies better homeworld and Rose at the same time (since the requirement for creating gems is probably preexisting life, and this would mean that Life is actually very rare in a cosmical scale in this universe.)

Man, so much speculation from a single sentence. I can't wait until we truly know what the deal with homeworld is.

Also, the revelation of the lack of resources puts Peridot's betrayal in a new light: We already know that while Peridot cares about and loves earth and her new friends, what sealed the deal was seeing that Yellow Diamond wasn't that logical and could be petty. But in the light of this new information, that must have hit harder than we thought: Think about it, Peridot saw Yellow Diamond as very logical and pragmatic and admired that of her the most, and was actually incredibly dissapointed and probably felt betrayed on the revelation that no matter their situation, Yellow Diamond was more focused on enacting her revenge that in cutting their loses and softening the blow that homeworld had suffered. The Crystal Gems had already been showing Peridot a new side to things and creating cracks on her picture of homeworld, but that conversation with Yellow Diamond must have made it completely crumble.

It's Steven showing real control of his powers:
-Steven Floats: He learns a new power and figures out how said power really works.
-Drop Beat Dad: Super Strenght.
-Mr. Greg: The exception, actually.
-Too short to ride: Shapeshifting.
-The new Lars: I have no idea yet.
-Beach City Drift: Fusion, most likely.
-Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service: Dream projection
-Monster Reunion: Healing Spit.

Anyone else loved the convenient censoring of "Hellhound" when Lars was looking through the VHS tapes, and that one of the tapes was a documentary of Caligula

Honestly, the episode was interesting but I don't feel it made too much of neither plot progression nor character development, though it was interesting being introduced to Lars's family. And it seems that Lars is feeling at least some motivation towards being a better person. Also, Steven can actually mind control humans. That's creepy, but at least taht power is in the hands of someone caring and good-hearted.
But enough on that, the important part is… Holy Hell! The censors sure were asleep on this episode. I do wonder if some of the crap past the radar were actually meant to be "censor decoys" that the censors failed to pick up on the first place, but among other things we have:
-Lars having a porny looking magazine (and not as a background detail, but literally front and center). This is enhanced by him being naked. Also, I founf interesting that the woman in ther cover kinda looks like sadie
-Sadie's movie stack, which has some lawyer friendly cameos of R-rated movies… and then there's Caligula
-The "Lars wants to win me over to f**k me" Interpretation of Sadie about the situation…
-"I had my mind in your body the whole day"
There's probably other things, but I'm not that good at picking them up.

"Marty is a dick part II"
Marty is still a dick.

"Mr.Greg"
Great character development, great songs. I'm really glad Pearl and Greg have really started talking. (Part of me wonders if Pearl partially avoided Greg because she thought becoming friends with him would be like "betraying" Rose.)

"Too short to ride"
This is the one I liked the most. This helps solidify the reasoning behind Peridot's attempt to convince Yellow Diamond that Earth is worth using/saving/protecting.

This might also explain why Pearl doesn't shapeshift. If homeworld determines what powers to give gems, it is also possible that they can block certain gems (such as a servant-class gem) from being able to use their powers unless certain conditions are met.

With the dwindling resources, this also can explain the variances in the Rubies seen in "Hit the diamond," if they don't have the means to make sure all gems are uniform, or if they just can't waste materials by discarding defectives.

…Magneto powers will be extremely useful against some sort of… metal-based life form.

"Invasion of the Steven Snatchers"
Seriously, Steven, it wasn't enough to impose your will on sentient watermelons (and kill one of them, albeit accidentally), you had to go and force poor Lars to play out how you think his life should go.

I'm just glad that power is in the hands of someone who means well.

This kinda reminds me of that one Billy & Mandy episode where Billy basically does the same thing…

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I don't even watch Initial D and I could smell the comparisons to it a mile away.

Also I feel like it would've been more in character for Connie to get riled up over a person, rather than Steven who befriends nearly everyone he meets. Though the resolution of "just ignore them" is pretty solid.

Honestly, that felt rather out of character for Steven. I mean, Kevin was definitely a creep, but other characters have treated Steven rather badly in several ways, and he never holds a grudge. Although I did liked the resolution and end of the episode.

I get what people have been saying with Steven hating Kevin so much – at first I thought that was totally out of character too. But then I started looking at how Connie was reacting to the situation, and I realized that she was equally mad, but was simply handling it a lot better.

And this makes sense: the thing they're mad about happened to Stevonnie, which means they both experienced it in the same way, emotional reaction and all. And Stevonnie is not Steven, so they don't have Steven's ability to deflect any negative feelings that come his way. So when Steven and Connie de-fused, both of them came out with memories of being treated like complete shit, and of getting furious over it, and those memories then clouded their later feelings.

So then why the difference between them? Because Connie, unlike Steven, isn't a perfect cinnamon roll who can forgive even her worst enemies. She's a normal human, and more specifically she experiences anger and hatred like a normal human does. Thus, she is way, way more experienced at handling these emotions than Steven is, and so is able to keep herself under control. And that is why, at the end, she is the one to realize that it's stupid for them to let their anger at Kevin dictate their actions, while Steven is the one who wanted to continue the race. Because she is better than him at being angry.

I think Steven was also pissed because as Stevonnie it wasn't just him being treated poorly by a total creep, it was also Connie, and maybe Steven feels like he needs to be angry for the both of them because he knows Connie would be angry at Kevin.

But anyway yeah the episode had a good lesson about how you shouldn't let a bad obsession cloud your mind. By making it clear to Kevin, a total egomaniac creep, that their obsession with him is over was a good way to give him a form of comeuppance, because now that someone's not obsessing over him like he wants he's desperate for attention once again, and the rest of the Beach City teens will probably stop giving Kevin any form of attention from now on.

I also noticed Jenny kept using they/them when referring to Stevonnie, keeping up with how the show's crew prefers to keep Stevonnie a sort of agender type person that's meant to represent Steven and Connie together while also being their own unique individual (especially considering Stevonnie is one of the first times we've seen a Gem, a half-Gem at that, fuse with a human being).

Ah shit, mis-gendered Stevonnie in the previous post. My bad. Fixing.

Also: I think there's a case to be made that Kevin might be the most singularly evil character that we've seen in this show. He not only lacks any redeeming qualities (a rarity in SU as it as) but also actively mocks the possibility. The only other characters who we've seen who are that purely bad are Jasper (who might be en-route to redemption anyway) and Yellow Diamond (who has had all of ten seconds of screen time so far).

So yeah, fuck Kevin. Guy's a douche.

I really liked the references to Initial D and other racing anime in this one.

I think most of the race itself and the reactions of the onlookers were based on this scene…

Especially with the sort-of "Running in the 90's" track playing during the race, the color palettes of the cars, and of course, the true power of the Supremo.

The way Kevin mocked Stevonnie was really anime-ish during a few scenes, like the one where he's pretending to have a brother.

"This is just like one of my japanese [racing] animes!"
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Probably in my opinion one of the best episodes so far. The hilarity between Kofi and Fryman was very good and the interactions between them, Steven and the others were funny. It's amazing Ronaldo has actually has a girlfriend.

Eh, nothing about this episode was actually bad, and I found it rather funny (particularly i found hilarious Ronaldo sadly rolling away on his heelies), but not matter how you see it, it was nothing but filler, so I have not much to say about it. Though I do feel bad for Ronaldo losing the grilfriend he gained offscreen and that gave the vibe of being as much of a weeb as him.

Today's episode was really really good episode, I felt for Centi when she started drawing on how she got here and what happen. It was very sad too, I really felt for her. :(

I really like the lesson for the entire episode: when to tell no. I love Kiki and Jenny, they're my favorite minor characters and kinda relatable to my older sister and I. Hope to see more of them in future episodes. Also I like how the title episode is probably a reference to Kiki's Deliverance Service, my favorite Ghibi film!

So apparently, corruption is something used on gems by the Diamonds themselves used as a possible failsafe to permanently stop rebels from gaining more forces and continuing protection of Earth, and is more of a mental state/injury than a physical injury. Whenever gems think about it, they turn into the monsters we usually see them as. I get the oddest feeling that this is symbolism for PTSD.

If you look at the scene in today's episode when Centi sketches out that Gem city, it totally includes a picture of the Tower of Babel. See:

I wonder if that's going to have any significance, or if it's just something neat that the storyboarder added.

But yeah, Very good episode. We finally know that is the diamonds themselves who are responsible for the mass corruption event; hell, we even have a name for it now: "damage from the diamonds. Also, if I understood right, Centipeetle was not a Crystal Gem, but a Homeworld Gem instead. I also think that is a important detail that, at the end of the war, the Great Diamond Authority had already shifted from four to three diamonds. Seriously, "what happened to Pink Diamond?" Is up there with "what the fuck is Lion?" when it comes to things that are truly a mistery.
But lore apart, it was rather heartwrecking to see how Centipeetle seemed very conscious of her state and fell unto despair upon seeing herself reverting back to a more corrupted state. She doesn't want to be like that. I really hope that a true cure is found at some point.

Three diamonds, missing bottom one. On the regular four diamond symbol, pink is at the bottom. pink diamond's missing.

Rose might not have been the original leader of the rebellion after all, Pink diamond was.

Or Pink diamond had no say in the use of the corruption weapon/song.

Centipeetle was following orders. Centipeetle is a friend. Centipeetle didn't deserve to be like this.

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It's also possible that Pink Diamond was expelled because one of her top people defected. It's also possible that there was a voting impasse, where two diamonds wanted to follow one strategy and the other two wanted to do another, and so Pink got assassinated in order to break the tie. Or perhaps Pink was involved in the rebellion. Or maybe she was on Earth and got shattered by the rebels (which may have been what got the diamonds to abandon the planet). Or – fuck it – maybe Rose turned Pink Diamond into Lion in order to teach her a lesson about friendship or some shit. At this point, anything is possible.

Honestly, the fact that Pink Diamond and Lion are the mysteries the show ignores the most doesn't seem like a coincidence.

Some people are already theorising that the key to the full healing is in Steven's ability to enter the mind of others. Very logical given that Garnet described the corruption as a "Tear on their mind"

Some people on Tumblr are speculating that Centipeedle's gem might be one called "Maw Sit Sit" because of how similar it sounds to the "click click" that Steven heard and the coloring looking similar as well with a green and black combo.

Info on Maw Sit Sit from Wikipedia:

"Maw sit sit, also known as jade-albite, is a gemstone found exclusively in northern Burma. It was first identified in 1963 by the late Swiss gemologist, Edward Gubelin, and was named after the village close to where it was first found in the foothills of the Himalayas.[1]

Typically maw sit sit is green with distinctive dark-green to black veins. Maw sit sit is technically a rock rather than a mineral. It is composed of several different minerals, including kosmochlor (also known as ureyite), varying amounts of chromium-enriched jadeite, and albite feldspar.[2]

Maw sit sit can have a refractive index ranging from 1.52-1.68,[3][4] and a hardness rating of 6 to 7 on the Mohs scale. Maw sit sit has a specific gravity ranging from 2.45 to 3.15.[3] Clarity found within maw-sit-sit is typically translucent to opaque."

First off, was nice to see Lapis and Greg meeting and getting to know each other, and bad fishing puns. But secondly, I''m still confused on what good Lapis being fused with Jasper made it. Talking about Jasper, funny to see her in her like 2 minute fame time, and how she punched under the boat far into the ocean was hilarious. Where was Greg though? He missed out seeing Jasper.So in total it was a good episode. Oh what Steven has to tell the Gems. I wonder what if the using 20 dollar as bait was a Spongebob reference?

So Lapis finally admitted all of the wrong she did, so I guess the bandwagon for that can finally sink. Like Greg's boat. Jasper returning was a nice touch, but let me get philosophical about it. It sort of revealed that Lapis was the "abuser" of the Malachite relationship, and Jasper just took it. The odd thing, however, is that the abuser isn't the one to point out toxicity. That was a nice spinb on things. However, what somewhat made me mad was further proof that Lapis could've just denied the fusion at all by uppercutting Jasper into the air.

Well, you just said it, She just admitted to all the wrong she did, and I think that includes forming Malachite in the first place. I think that at this point it's pretty obvious that Lapis knows she could have done that, but she didn't, probably because she was afraid of facing the Crystal Gems and the future and wanted to discharge all the rage and frustration she had built over all that she has gone through on what she deemed an acceptable target.

Of course, she has now realized why that was wrong. The one that worries me is Jasper: It's plenty obvious she isn't very stable right now and might completely lose it if she doesn't get some help.

Also, good thing you are rich now Greg. How much is a boat anyway?

From my understanding, (both from what was said in-episode and what I've been taught), Malachite was a codependent-type relationship, with this case having either both partners of the relationship abuse the other, or one of them enabling the other's abusive tendencies, but both addicted to the relationship either way.

Malachite, based on past episodes, seemed to have Jasper be the sole abuser with Lapis restraining her, but from Jasper's dialogue this episode, she at least makes it seem like Lapis was the one who was the abuser in this scenario.

But with Lapis questioning her self-worth, Jasper's stalk-you-and-make-you-mine attitude, telling Steven Lapis is the bad guy, as well as calling her a monster makes me think that Jasper was at least emotionally abusing Lapis.
Especially with the "It'll be better this time! I've changed! You've changed me!" line.

The way I see it, Lapis was the physical abuser, while Jasper was the emotional abuser, with both being addicted in varying degrees to their relationship.

Gem hunt, Crack the whip, Steven vs Amethyst? Not to mention Bismuth parts 1&2!

So I looked up the cost for a commercial fishing boat – which is basically what their ship looked like – and they're all $80-90 thousand. I actually don't think Greg has spent even three per cent of his wealth over all the bullshit he's been through since he became rich.

Also, I'm not sure I would call Lapis "the abuser" here. That's too simple. While she certainly did use Jasper as a punching bag to get out all of her pent-up anger, she also could hardly have let Jasper (who, I recall, was the one who instigated things in the first place) take over. She's someone who already had issues with anger and self-worth, and found herself in a life-or-death situation – then acted exactly how you'd expect someone in that scenario to act. If we're mapping this onto human relationships, I'd say it's a lot more similar to someone shooting a dangerous abuser – which is absolutely violent, and possibly not the best resolution to the relationship, but hardly equivalent to the abuse that they have suffered up to that point.

Honestly, it's pretty obvious that the abuse was mutual, but only Lapis regrets it. If the mindscape image of malachite we got during "Chille Tid" is anything to go by, I do would say that Jasper was in a definitely worse position, but that might have shifted over time until "Super Watermelon Island". One thing is clear about Malachite though: It was good for no one.

Yep Rose indeed had super strength, and as we saw last week Steven's inherited both that and her ability to control her descent. I bet you the babysitting experience with baby Sour Cream is what later leads to Rose wanting a child with Greg. Also it was nice to see 80s Vidalia again.