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Honestly, I'm remaining silent on the whole "Rose Quartz shattered Pink Diamond" conundrum because of two reasons: 1)We have an eyewitness, that is hard to deny but… On the other hand, this is a Ruby we are talking about here, not exactly the hardest thing to fool.
Also, I have the feeling that today's episode might expand onto this, so I'm going to wait for it before trying to build an opinion
I'm disappoint, to be perfectly honest.
How the hell did Steven and the Rubies got into outer space, when there is no way they could reach the Moon's escape velocity simply by being sucked out with the air?
How could Steven hear Eyeball from outside of the bubble?
Why didn't the Crystal Gems pick up and bubble the Rubies, instead leaving them to float in space, possibly forever and fully self-aware?
What reason did Rose have to shatter Pink Diamond, instead of just bubbling her?
baldarek wrote:
I'm disappoint, to be perfectly honest.
How the hell did Steven and the Rubies got into outer space, when there is no way they could reach the Moon's escape velocity simply by being sucked out with the air?
How could Steven hear Eyeball from outside of the bubble?
Why didn't the Crystal Gems pick up and bubble the Rubies, instead leaving them to float in space, possibly forever and fully self-aware?
What reason did Rose have to shatter Pink Diamond, instead of just bubbling her?
@baldarek Maybe I'm confusing myself on this, but I think I get it now. Thank you for the explanation.
As for today's episode: really nothing to say, but it was a good episode. The ending was sad.
Well this has sure been one hell of a season. Now we have the big mystery of why Rose shattered Pink Diamond. I doubt it is as simple as that. There is likely something going on with that.
Also the Crystal Gems have a spaceship now, presumably one that has FTL capabilities. Perhaps we will finally get to see other planets, maybe even Homeworld?
Well done, CN.
It was funny, and had a good moral, but I just can't get over the fact that Peridot sustained so much damage and didn't poof! I was really hoping to see her poof and get a Crystal Gem outfit, and the opportunity was perfect. But they missed it. Again… Besides, how come a stray tiny asteroid or falling from a cliff could crack a gem, but having a giant fucking boulder falling on you does nothing?
Oh well, at least she can do bubbles now. I wonder what's the explanation behind her bubbles being green despite all the Crystal Gems doing pink ones.
Well, first of all, yes, I was a bit dissapointed at the really bad way space was portrayed. Second, yeah, that settles it, Rose Quartz definitely shattered Pink Diamond. The "The Boss" style setup is still possible, but I wouldn't put all my faith on it. as @Imperator-Rex pointed out, the fact that the gems now have a ship is surely going to be relevant, also, it does bother me that they didn't rescue the rubies, though, who knows? Maybe they will do so later.
Well, honesty, it was a kinda uneventful episode, but the season as a whole has been marvelous, and a full rendition of love like you really ties up everything, which reminds me…. I'm sure now that is definitely Rose the pov character of the song.
As for next season, I expect Yellow Diamond to make a new, and more serious appareance, since you might realize that season 3 took care of all earthbound menaces. No more malachite, no more cluster, no more Jasper… Whatever is coming, it will have to do so from Homeworld…
Did anyone else notice that when Steven was curled up in his bubble as it slowly shrank, floating off into space's vacuum before the gems saved him that it kind of looked like a fetus/embryo? I can't be the only one that noticed, but I might've over-analyzed it.
Basically Eyeball tried to disembowel Steven. Nice.
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So Eyeball's talk of how Rose shattered Pink Diamond made me think, specifically how she says that she was there when Rose shattered Pink Diamond, and that she specifically remembers Rose's giant sword as a defining feature of Rose, which might mean that Rose was using her sword (or another like it) during the event/battle where she shattered Pink Diamond.
Now, a real-world diamond can be shattered by a hammer or another blunt object (such as a shield), but when you apply a chisel-like instrument to it (such as a sword or the edge of a shield), it will, with enough force, cleave along the cut. In this case cleaving looks a lot like shattering, though it leaves two or more diamond pieces that are still valuable and useful, instead of random chunks.
If Diamonds are as strong as they're said to be, then probably the only way for Rose to have been able to shatter Pink Diamond (with flat of her shield) would have had to have been a sneak attack. From what we've seen, Diamonds always have at least a pearl with them, and maybe more guards out of view, and gems don't need to sleep, so a closed-doors assassination isn't likely. And besides, a closed-door assassination is only useful if you leave no witnesses, and Eyeball was a witness.
If it was a head-on confrontation, judging from the way Steven and Stevonnie fight, Rose would have used either a sword or the edge of her shield as her weapon of choice. If a gem functions as real gems do, using a bladed edge on a diamond's surface should cleave it, not shatter it, but it would still give the appearance of being shattered to an untrained eye.
From what we've seen of Jasper fighting, assuming that the way she fights is the typical homeworld fighting style, she poofs her enemy, and then shatters the gem.
In a twitter post, Burnett at least made it seem like a Diamond has never been poofed before, which might mean that if a Diamond were to be shattered, their physical form would still be intact. If this is the case, it means that somehow, the gem that shattered them would have hit the exact weak point with enough force to completely shatter them.
This would most likely mean that, in order for Rose to shatter Pink, her shield would have had to exactly hit Pink's gem, not being blocked or parried away from the weak point. Same thing with a bladed edge, though Pink Diamond's gem would have been cleaved instead.
tl;dr: Pink Diamond might not have actually been shattered and she might have let Rose do it.
Why? I don't really know.
I'm also assuming on a whole lot of things for like, 60-85% of this theory, so…
It was an ok episode. The Wile Coyote slapstick humor was very interesting. And another thing that was kinda interesting was that the CG let Steven and Peridot handle the last corrupted gem. I kinda didn't like Steven's philosophy on the corrupted monster gem being "victim". But I guess it worked here.(well kinda to the point were Peri fell, but she still got it!).
If the title for this spoiler section was any indication, this episode basically parodied Looney Tunes, making it a very fun romp. If then corrupted gem was more avian-like, then it would've been a bigger Roadrunner parody than it already was. Overall, this was a nice way to start a new season after the last one had multiple dramatic notes.
So now Peridot is a dorito, a angry slice of pie, an AyyLMAO, a metalbender, a frog, and the reincarnation of Wile E. Coyote. Is there anything she can't do?
So, with it being an homage to the coyote and roadrunner shorts, this episode was obviously hilarious. It didn't build much in plot, but it did gave us some interesting facts like:
a)Peridot is really resilient
and
b)Bubbles go to the place that a gem considers "home"
Also, the whole thing, but particularly the combination of Steven's example about what is like to be a corrupted gem (and Peridot's according reaction) and the way the "Roadrunner" acted friendly when Peridot imitated it made me think about corrupted gems. First, the Corrupted Quartz that seemed to communicate back in "Gem Hunt", while the centipeetles did the same on "Monster Return"; and second, I a little thing I noticed but that I failed to mention before: Have you guys payed attention to the fact that all Gems of the same kind corrupt in the exact same form? All, uh…, whatever is Centipeetle (Main current theory is trapiche emerald) become centipeetles, all quartzes become Giant, maned, eyeless beasts and so on. Anyway, the point is, that all these facts together reminded me of an old theory: That Corruption works by returning gems to a more primitive state, in both body and mind, and given the consistence in corruptions of the same kind of gem, and the fact that they can do stuff like communicate, just in a much more basic level, I feel now very inclined to believe in this theory.
What do you think? Do you have another theory about the same facts?
Tentacles wrote:
So, with it being an homage to the coyote and roadrunner shorts, this episode was obviously hilarious. It didn't build much in plot, but it did gave us some interesting facts like:
a)Peridot is really resilient
and
b)Bubbles go to the place that a gem considers "home"Also, the whole thing, but particularly the combination of Steven's example about what is like to be a corrupted gem (and Peridot's according reaction) and the way the "Roadrunner" acted friendly when Peridot imitated it made me think about corrupted gems. First, the Corrupted Quartz that seemed to communicate back in "Gem Hunt", while the centipeetles did the same on "Monster Return"; and second, I a little thing I noticed but that I failed to mention before: Have you guys payed attention to the fact that all Gems of the same kind corrupt in the exact same form? All, uh…, whatever is Centipeetle (Main current theory is trapiche emerald) become centipeetles, all quartzes become Giant, maned, eyeless beasts and so on. Anyway, the point is, that all these facts together reminded me of an old theory: That Corruption works by returning gems to a more primitive state, in both body and mind, and given the consistence in corruptions of the same kind of gem, and the fact that they can do stuff like communicate, just in a much more basic level, I feel now very inclined to believe in this theory.
What do you think? Do you have another theory about the same facts?
And oh good god, do the puns run wild during this episode. I like the return of Smoky and Sardonyx, but let's cut to the chase. Fusion rooms exist, and Sardonyx basically runs a late night talk show inside hers, including a live studio audience. I'm more concerned if it's more like Jimmy Fallon or Stephen Colbert. There's a "blink-and-you-miss-it" moment when the Opal and Alexandrite footage is shown, saying it was courtesy of Cartoon Network. That fourth wall is officially gone. It then gets incinerated when they reference how Nicki Minaj is getting a paycheck for the inclusion of her voice. Deadpool is proud. To top it all off, I know want a full reveal of Jorge, who I'll now blame for all of those puns.
Whats with the fucking hiatus sugar? We want more SU god damn
"Oh yeah you little fuckers you want more Steven bombs? Ill give you a fucking bomb ill give you a fucking fat man, ill give you a bomb with so much feels in it you wont even know what to fuckin do with yourself. Plot, new fusions, fights, and feels. And then…AND THEN when the bombs done and you think you just can't get enough the fucking SU fallout will fly though the air every Thursday for weeks. Hows that for a bomb you fucking faggt. Im gonna make Hiroshima look like two kids playing with nerf guns.
The fact that there's a Sardonyx room was very intersting, and it made me think… That means there are rooms for every possible fusion of the five, right? It would also mean that Ruby and Sapphire also have their own individual rooms, rooms that probably have done nothing but collect cobwebs for thousands of years.
Anyway, what I liked the most about the episode, besides the fourth wall breaking, self-referential humor, Was taking a closer look to Smoky Quartz's personality. Back in "Eathlings" she game the impression of being little different from Amethyst herself, but here Steven's part of her personality was more noticeable, with Smoky Quartz being a lot more calm and innocent than Amethyst, and tries to take things more positively, even when feeling bad.
I'm too tired to make a little rant about breaking the fourth wall right now. I mean, I have no problems with the merchandise joke or the Nicki Minaj reference, since they can be rationalized in-universe as a references to the show-within-the-show and Sugilite herself respectively, but the "Footage courtesy of Cartoon Network" has no excuse. I still enjoyed the rest of the episode, which was quite fun, but this one detail just bugs me so much.
Anyway, congratulations, comrades.
We made it.
We survived the Nuke.
What a rollercoaster it was. A PearlPoint™ for everyone.
We still have weekly episodes until September ahead of us. But frankly, after several weeks of daily episodes, I wouldn't actually mind a short hiatus now. This amount of episodes would have taken almost half a year to air weekly, but they crammed it into a month. This is too much, even of the best cartoon on TV. A little break would now be most welcome…
baldarek wrote:
Well done, CN.
It was funny, and had a good moral, but I just can't get over the fact that Peridot sustained so much damage and didn't poof! I was really hoping to see her poof and get a Crystal Gem outfit, and the opportunity was perfect. But they missed it. Again… Besides, how come a stray tiny asteroid or falling from a cliff could crack a gem, but having a giant fucking boulder falling on you does nothing?
Oh well, at least she can do bubbles now. I wonder what's the explanation behind her bubbles being green despite all the Crystal Gems doing pink ones.
Bubbles actually reflect the color of the Gem making them. It's hard to tell with Garnet/Amethyst/Steven (because the red/purple/pink bubbles are so similar) but Pearl's bubbles are definitely white.
Frinklebumper wrote:
Bubbles actually reflect the color of the Gem making them. It's hard to tell with Garnet/Amethyst/Steven (because the red/purple/pink bubbles are so similar) but Pearl's bubbles are definitely white.
Indeed, they all have different colours. My bad, I misremembered them all being pink for some reason.
baldarek wrote:
Indeed, they all have different colours. My bad, I misremembered them all being pink for some reason.
I kind of find it funny that the chaps are still floating aimlessly with the other bubbles containing corrupted gems. It's as if nobody, not even the ever-hungry Amethyst wanted to bring them down for a quick snack.
So the Battlefield is in Norway.
Neat.
Of course, all this episode made me think about is how much humans really know about the many Gem artifacts all over Earth. They are abundant enough that humans would logically have come across them many, many times in the past. Also, what about all the Corrupted Gems? Are they known to science, or are they this world's version of Bigfoot?
I only now just got to watching Buddy's Book… Why is nobody discussing it?! Why there was only one comment about it before mine?
So first of all, the episode confirms that Gem structures are all out there in the open, available for any wandering humans to find. This once again brings up the question of the humans' awareness of the Gems. Why aren't these places swarming with archaeologists and tourists? Come on, it's fucking FLYING ISLANDS and GIANT STRAWBERRIES! You should be building luxury hotels there! Then again, why no reporters or military arrived when a giant spaceship crashed in a populated area in the US? Surely humans can't be so dumb that they just don't notice all of this – come on, they've developed cars and planes and smartphones and GPS and stuff.
My guess is that they are well aware of all of this, and are deliberately staying away. Ancient aliens waging war on Earth must be common knowledge for SU humans (especially since it's been hinted, by Greg I think, that some humans fought in it alongside Rose's rebellion), so they probably know well not to interfere in Gem business, and maybe these areas are even prohibited access to by law, for the sake of the human race's safety.
Also, this is one of those situations where a show goes down the memory lane and gets so carried away that it leaves plot holes. How could Buddy have drawn the mural from the Pyramid, when to enter the Pyramid in the first place you need some kind of a key, which last time only Garnet had? And why were the Crystal Shrimps presented as some sort of deadly threat that needed avoiding on their debut, while Buddy was able to casually walk past them, and even sit down for a bit to draw them?
And then we have Rose and her lions. The other CGs didn't even know about one lion, and now she had several. Which means that she was doing something with them in secret, which eventually resulted in the creation of our Lion…
OH MY STARS. She's been conducting experiments on creating half-Gem half-organic hybrids, and Steven isn't even the first subject!
I have nothing much to say about Buddy's Book but the fact that Rose used to have seven lions, well… more secrets for the archive, probably some of them are directly linked to Pink Lion somehow. Anyway, what drew me the most about the episode was The Palanquin, a version of it previously used as a mobile hideout of Blue Diamond.
It is now clear that the remains of a palanquin exist on Earth, as a physical location that can be visited anytime. It may or may have not belonged to Pink Diamond, and if it did, then it must have been one of the last… let's say, shelters for the pink boss before she met her apparent final fate.
I believe that Blue's palanquin succeeded in making a run for it, resulting in both the structure and the owner currently safe on Homeworld. Then again, Buddy's sketch of the found palanquin depicts it in an elegant style (decayed, but fancy nonetheless), which is something that the high-ups of diplomacy are related to. Even with this, it ain't farfetched to say that Pink (or Yellow and White for that matter) would've been fond of the same style, but without enough evidence, these are simply theories.
Well, The episode was interesting, but it didn't had much subtext so discussing it too much would quickly decay into saying stuff that is known already or being all captain obvious about what happened in the episode. Yeah, we have know a small clue about Lion's origin, and saw a really obvious hint of something that we will probably see in the future (the palanquin) but not enough to really discuss without just stating what everyone already knows.
And the moral of today's episode is…
Butterflies are Evil
Also Takafumi Hori's guest part was neat.
I'm not one to like a lot of SUs songs, but Flexibility, Love & Trust is actually really good. Garnet has the best songs. Also nice to see the show addressing how the all-loving cinnamon bun would be traumatized from not being able to save someone, to directly having to "kill" them to save himself.
Also, this episode got me thinking about a possible message. The fandom seems to be obsessed with the idea of all Gems being redeemed, and that it's all inevitable. I kind of like the idea that not all of Steven's enemies are going to come to his side.
It made sense of Peridot and Lapis to be redeemed, Peridot never had a personal hatred of Steven or the Gems, she hated them for getting in the way of her mission, and all her badness was really just a different way of thinking due to the world she was born to and once she was shown a different way of thinking, she became more open to them and the Gems and eventually sided with them.
Lapis was never really evil, just extremely traumatized from her imprisonment and desperate for a way home, then became depressed and jaded once she realized she had no where to go, and lashed out when she was constantly being contained and controlled. Once Steven showed her that she should think less of Earth as a prison and more of a new home, she came around too.
Jasper however fully believes in homeworlds dogma, actively fought against the Gems ideals, and holds a personal hatred for Rose and the CGs. She can't be brought over by showing her a new way of thinking like Peridot, because she isn't being oppressed like she was. She actively refused to hear Steven's words, and some people in real life are the same, they will not let you help them not matter how hard you try. Jasper refused Steven, and now she's corrupted and in a bubble.
Eyeball is like Jasper accept she accepted help, then tried to kill Steven anyway. It shows that being nice to someone doesn't mean they are going to abandon all their loyalties and become your friend. Bismuth is sort of a middle ground, she could be redeemed, she might not be, it's hard to say.
I kind of like the idea of the message that "some people can be changed, but others can't" and think it would be a much better message and more realistic if Steven doesn't always redeem the villain. Telling kids that anyone can become your friend if you show them enough kindness is kind of a dangerous and flawed message. However, the fact that Lapis an Peridot did get redeemed shows that some people can be and that you should always at least attempt kindness and communication.
Or maybe I'm reading too deeply into it, who knows.
I like how the show pulled a sort of bait-and-switch, starting with Connie's problem and then opening way to Steven's deeper, heavier baggage. I like how the show decided to address directly the effect these "failures" are having on Steven, and I can't wait to see what kind of character development will it lead to.
In a more subtle note, there are two things I noted that called my attention 1)Sapphire's Butterflies. I mean, if the butterflies represent emotional baggage, then Sapphire has quite the untold story, while Ruby doesn't seem to suffer much of the same problem.
2)The credits, they have music again.
It was a lovely episode, but the part when Steven suddenly started tormenting himself about not being able to save other Gems seemed a bit random to me. I mean, when Connie had a problem, it was because she had involuntarily hurt a guy earlier that day, so of course she was feeling bad about it afterwards and couldn't stop thinking about it. But Steven has been doing just fine lately, on both training days, as well as generally throughout Season 4 so far. But then he suddenly started thinking about past events for no reason. So what "triggered" him?
Also, the ending credits just keep getting more menacing. First the sinister silence, now this… Something bad is coming, I can feel it.
baldarek wrote:
It was a lovely episode, but the part when Steven suddenly started tormenting himself about not being able to save other Gems seemed a bit random to me. I mean, when Connie had a problem, it was because she had involuntarily hurt a guy earlier that day, so of course she was feeling bad about it afterwards and couldn't stop thinking about it. But Steven has been doing just fine lately, on both training days, as well as generally throughout Season 4 so far. But then he suddenly started thinking about past events for no reason. So what "triggered" him?
Also, the ending credits just keep getting more menacing. First the sinister silence, now this… Something bad is coming, I can feel it.
The theme of the episode was that it's better to deal with and talk about things that bother you rather than keep them bottled up, because it will eventually boil over
Steven was suppressing his thoughts on the Gems he couldn't save and his confusion over Rose, when Connie's guilt boiled over during the fusion, Steven must have also felt it, and it reminded him of the guilt he has, only now he can't suppress it anymore due to it festering.
Ryumaru Borike wrote:
The theme of the episode was that it's better to deal with and talk about things that bother you rather than keep them bottled up, because it will eventually boil over
Steven was suppressing his thoughts on the Gems he couldn't save and his confusion over Rose, when Connie's guilt boiled over during the fusion, Steven must have also felt it, and it reminded him of the guilt he has, only now he can't suppress it anymore due to it festering.
Yeah, Steven had repressed his feelings about Jasper, Bismuth and Eyeball, but sharing Connie's feelings (as Stevonnie) about hurting Jeff, hit too close home and made it all resurface.
Platus edit: fixed the spoiler tag
Sweet episode. It was cute how Steven tried to tell word of wisdom to people. It was cool to see a friend of Mr. Smiley. And Out of Nowhere Garnet. Though, who voice Mr. Frowny? That voice sound very familiar.
Sadistic Pillow wrote:
Sweet episode. It was cute how Steven tried to tell word of wisdom to people. It was cool to see a friend of Mr. Smiley. And Out of Nowhere Garnet. Though, who voice Mr. Frowny? That voice sound very familiar.
Mr. Frowney's VA
Sadistic Pillow wrote:
Sweet episode. It was cute how Steven tried to tell word of wisdom to people. It was cool to see a friend of Mr. Smiley. And Out of Nowhere Garnet. Though, who voice Mr. Frowny? That voice sound very familiar.
The episode was pure filler in that this is the kind of epĂsode you could probably slip and not miss anything at all from the main plot, but I would say that is still worth seeing because it's a rather sweet episode in a strange manner.
@Wisehowl thank you! I don't think I remember him well. The only one thing I remember him from according to the list is Captain from Mike, Lu and Og. :[
So apparently some of this is now a thing.
Wallstreet Wolfman wrote:
So apparently some of this is now a thing.
"This character is gay but it will never be brought up in the show so who cares"
Cmon SU I thought you were better than that!
Wallstreet Wolfman wrote:
So apparently some of this is now a thing.
My thoughts about this is a combination of "huh, neat" and "OMG, who the hell cares"
On today's episode of Steven Universe:
Pearl gets Human Fever
I was going to say Carbon fever, but then I realized that Diamonds are made entirely out of Carbon, so it's obvious that Pearl wouldn't have that
Pearl was so adorably awkward in this episode. I love it.
A very good episode. I feel like it caught pretty well the vibe of "going out to a small show at night and being excited because of it". The new character makes me uneasy, because of the whole "looks like Rose" thing and Pearl showing interest because of that; I hope we see more off her on the future and it turns out that she has a rather different personality to Rose, but Pearl still likes her. Also, through the episode I felt like there was something strange, but I know now what it is: With Pearl experimenting with new stuff and the introduction of the "mysterious girl", it feels like there has been introduced a potential new storyline, one that is relatively disconnected from the events of the past, which is not common for this show, and is really strange for a character like Pearl, so, is very hard to gather an idea of what will happen now with this side plot, and that fills you with expectation.
Also, I liked a couple small details: Steven almost immediately addressing the elephant on the room, and Pearl and her lack of driving license (because I don't know if it was intentional, but it immediately reminded of that fandom discussion about expecting Pearl to have a driving license due to how rule-abiding she is)
So, thing I noticed:
Look at Mystery Girl's helmet – is that a Centipeedle sticker?
What the heck could that mean?
Platus wrote:
So, thing I noticed:
Look at Mystery Girl's helmet – is that a Centipeedle sticker?
What the heck could that mean?
It looks more like the bird from "Giant Woman" than Centipeetle. Maybe we are overthinking it.
Tentacles wrote:
It looks more like the bird from "Giant Woman" than Centipeetle. Maybe we are overthinking it.
Then if you'll excuse me, I'll overthink about the bat sticker on her helmet, as well. Seeing a corrupted gem looking like one of those bloodsuckers would be pretty cool.
A lot of people I've talked to about the episode said they felt weird about it, and that's fine and understandable the Steven Universe crew was going for a very different vibe and direction in this episode than usual. The garage band-type of music was kind of a giveaway on this since SU has never really went with that kind of music.
Bits of the episode reminded me of Scott Pilgrim, where we have an adorkable nerd in a rock concert trying to chase a mysterious girl.
P.S. I really like how the show is using cars more and more and using them in a way with style and thrill instead of say, just a mode of transportation, or for an action scene.
This ought to be interesting news
It's been about 3 years since the show debuted, and about 2 years since the show accumulated a huge fandom. Now SU is getting its own fan convention, called Beach City Con.
Those who are on the cynical side are calling this Dashcon 2: Electric Boogaloo, but I have a good feeling about this con. The thing is, Dashcon was run by people with no experience in handling events. Beach City Con is under the same hands that ran the annual Ice and Fire Con, a Game of Thrones fan convention that has been going strong for over 3 years. So don't worry these people know what they're doing.
Also, you'd notice in the image above that BCC has already doubled its fundraiser goal, something that Dash Con wasn't able to reach.
It's nice to see that Steven and Onion's relationship is getting closer, especially considering that Onion very nearly killed Steven with that harpoon that one time, and for Steven near death is just the first step on the road to friendship.
Also interesting that they acknowledged that Steven doesn't have that many friends his own age, which is to be expected, seeing as how he has spent most of his young life being homeschool by lesbian space aliens.
Also this is the second episode where a single dead leaf has ended up being important. I wonder if that is just a coincidence, or if it means something important?
I'm Just Saying.
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