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Freelancer wrote:
This is a few weeks late but.
I'll just count Yang basically roasting Raven into submission as my prediction being right.
Um, no, sorry, I can't give you that one. A fight is obvious and Yang shoulder shove to Raven isn't a fight. It is however, one of the best 'what the hell mom!?!' event in ages. Yang verbally dismantled Raven easily.
Team Arkos wrote:
Um, no, sorry, I can't give you that one. A fight is obvious and Yang shoulder shove to Raven isn't a fight. It is however, one of the best 'what the hell mom!?!' event in ages. Yang verbally dismantled Raven easily.
face palm I'm sorry, I should have re-read your comment. I thought you said "fight". My bad.
Anyone remember the RWBY manga?
No?
Yeah, me neither, until I saw a copy of it at Barnes & Noble the other day.
Is the whole manga out yet, or is it stuck in unfinished limbo?
So…how do you guys think Volume 6 will go ?
Ya think its gonna go full shit or …
With some luck they may keep improving over Vol. 5's successes.
With some luck, RT will dump more capital to improve the animation quality, speed of production and length of episodes. That and have someone quality check the script before they produce it.
At least RT isn't making the same dumb mistakes that Marvel is making……
Well, it's about that time, isn't it? Time to resurrect the thread now that the new season has started.
What are your thoughts about the volume so far?
Sieben Schnee wrote:
What are your thoughts about the volume so far?
This is much better than anything before. Chap 3 vol 6 is the longest running episode yet. RT is learning from it's mistakes so this is a good thing. Not completely perfect but better.
I think that episode 3 and now 4 (I got spoiled on it) that made me think less of most of the gang and more for Ruby. I really do pity Ozpin now. He got screwed over from the start and still tries to do the right thing. And for doing the right thing, he get shit on by so many others.
Yea, the "gods" are dicks in a way, but I see them more like how the old Greek gods were, powerful, but imperfect. Yet having said that, I am still thinking they may not be true gods at all, but sufficiently advanced Aliens who are posing as Gods.
I just wished that someone just forgive Ozpin and show to him they really do care about his pain and plight. He's got so much on his shoulders. Why make him suffer any more?
Farm Zombie wrote:
So far, Volume 6 has been much better than I expected. There are still obvious problems, but for the first time in nearly two years, I feel like talking about RWBY. That said, the big origin story in episode 3 has me conflicted. It was a huge step up from the cliched creation myth Qrow gave in Volume 4 and managed to fill in some huge blanks in the backstory. That said, I have an issue with the way the story was framed, namely that we are supposed to side with the gods. Really, the gods are dicks. A single person was understandably sad about her lover dying and complains to both gods. Rather than leaving her to a normal grieving period, they curse her with eternal life, thus creating their own worst enemy and every problem in the entire series. If the gods hadn’t been so petty, Salem wouldn’t have been able to use their curse against them and tell everyone what dicks they are. So, they killed fucking everyone and left the planet, nicking the moon on their way out. Then they gave Ozma the impossible task of defeating the unkillable creature they created. Salem was a tyrant, but at least she was willing to defend the people against the monsters the gods left behind. Oh, and if the magic macguffins are brought together, the gods will return and destroy the world if the humans haven’t learned to play nice with each other, even though that wasn’t really a problem until they left. Humanity seemed pretty united against the gods.
Wow, it kind of sounds like I hated the episode, but it’s a good sign that RWBY is finally making me feel something other than ambivalence. It’s disappointing that the gods of Remnant suck, but there are interesting places the show can take this, like Oscar coming to grips with the weight of his responsibility or Salem as a sympathetic villain (not likely, but I can dream). There’s also a lot of questions the origin story doesn’t answer: If the gods killed everyone, why were there still people when Ozma woke up? Where did the faunus come from? When did Salem go from killing the Grimm to controlling them? If bringing together the macguffins can bring about the Final Judgement, why does Salem want them? So she can finally die or keep them from being used as a weapon against her? Maybe to use them herself, but keeping them far away from each other?
YEAH FUCK THE GODS!
Seriously Tho, what Kind of self-centered dick do you have to be for this. They had it coming and honestly I kinda side with salem…well if instead of wanting to destroy humanity she would just try and conqure it "Imperium of Man " sytle.
Pelinal Cuckstrake wrote:
YEAH FUCK THE GODS!
Seriously Tho, what Kind of self-centered dick do you have to be for this. They had it coming and honestly I kinda side with salem…well if instead of wanting to destroy humanity she would just try and conqure it "Imperium of Man " sytle.
The very kind of self-centered dick that gods usually are, at least when there are more than one
Sieben Schnee wrote:
The very kind of self-centered dick that gods usually are, at least when there are more than one
That still brings up the idea that these two are not true gods, but highly advanced aliens who are playing gods. Why do they need to be summoned? They should know all too well what is going on the planet. That and they said it was an "experiment". That lends to the idea there are other worlds they are working on.
She's BACK!
Who knew that particular theory would be true
Thoughts on episode 4:
1. Holy fuck, Salem is a cool villain.
2. Holy fuck, do I not care about the new character.
3. I like the idea that Ozpin has been putting up a confident front for centuries but is as lost as anyone. The whole conflict is between Salem and Ozpin's master plans. Salem's intention is still a little fuzzy (at some point she switched from using political and magic power to rule the world and protect people from the Grimm, to using the Grimm and allies to get the relics and subjugate all free will or something), but the idea that Ozpin doesn't even have a master plan and has just been winging it is a good twist. Imagine what a mindfuck it would be if, in Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore just shrugged his shoulders and said, "I got nothing. We're probably screwed." Even if it's way too late coming, it's refreshing that we actually have some idea of what the endgame is supposed to look like.
4. Oscar is coming across much better this Volume. Before, he was a cliched "refusal of the call" character introduced far too late and we were supposed to like him because…we were supposed to. Now, he's this normal kid who was randomly tossed into an exietential nightmare. Pathos isn't enough to make a character interesting, but this is a step in the right direction.
Alright, So the betting pool is that it's a Nightmare. I have heard a Hecatonchires grimm could be it as well, seeing that RT likes to go for more obscure monsters that really wreck your shit. That and a windgo Grimm but i doubt it. Although, we did see in the opening something with a lot of arms come out of that door. So a Hecatonchires could very well be it.
The arms looked closer to the ones summoned by Salem to wrap Hazel, maybe she'll fight the huntsman and Qrow will die?
I really don't see Salem leaving her lair yet to fight them directly yet.
Wow, didn't see that one coming. Another new grimm with a twist. everyone lost their bets on this one.
But Ruby FINALLY DID IT! She used it!
Also, the internet is a Grimm now
I am betting Maria will be Ruby's new trainer in using her silver eye powers.
It seems like Rooster Teeth is doing everything they can to make the new volume something good. Does anyone Think that they'll get that old magic from volumes 1-3?
It took me while to figure out why they made Juane's oldest sister Gay. I had to get a hint and a little digging to figure it out. For that I give kudos to RT for this deep dive of a reason for why they made her that way.
Look at her name. Saphron, not saffron the color name. That is in direct reference to the legendary Greek Poet and perhaps the codifier of Romantic Poems Sappho. Unless you are a deep history buff and know about her already, but for those who don't know, she wasn't from the main lands of Greece, but the island of Lesbos. People from there are officially known as lesbians. Knowing that, it's little wonder why she is a LGBT.
I love it that RT often does some deep thinking naming and such in RWBY.
I am going on a wild guess that we'll find out that Maria Calavera is going to be Ruby's long lost grandma or great grandma on her mom's side.
Isn't it weird how every third season is really good?
I like how this Volume is making Ruby the central character again. One of the lost opportunities of Volume 4 was having Ruby struggle to keep her ideals in the face of overwhelming negativity. That was the entire point of the Brunswick Farm arc. Instead of things happening to her, she drives the action. Her idealism struggles but defeats the forces of apathy in a relentlessly negative environment. More of that, please. Bonus points for bringing up Qrow's alcoholism. I honestly thought they were going to play that off as a joke for the whole series. Also, subtly hinting at Weiss' mother's problem was a nice touch.
Lastly, I'm starting to warm up to Maria. At first, I was resistant to her, because there's already too many characters. I've watched new characters be introduced and do nothing of importncet for several years, if at all. But, it looks like Maria's role is going to be teaching Ruby how to use her silver eye powers, something that is long overdo. I like how both characters are covered in death motifs. It's easy to forget, because they never did anything with it, but Ruby was initially a death-themed character: robe and scythe, first two theme songs, initially appeared at a grave. Maria was flat-out called the Grimm Reaper and has a Day of the Dead theme. I hope they address Ruby's sense of loss, show that she hasn't fully processed her mother's death. It always bugged me that they just dropped that.
If I remember right, didn't Summer Rose's weapon also had a scythe type of weapon as well? I am still of the mind there is more to Ruby's mom's past that will be coming out that will have a big impact to Ruby and the team when they find out about it. Maria might know about her and tell her too. I guess all we can do and wait and see.
I don't think we've been shown or told anything about Summer's weapon. Or Taiyang's, for that matter, but considering he trained Yang, I think it's safe to say we know how he fights at least.
Taiyang's weapon, if he even uses one, is likely much like Yang's. Seeing how she takes after her dad in many ways.
Merry christmas everyone.
Why do I have the gut feeling that Cinder and/or Neo will find, interrogate and then kill Jaune's sister, wife and kid just to be petty for getting that hit on her last time they fought.
That conversation between Jaune and Pyrrha's mom was both necessary and disturbing. Necessary because Jaune's grief needed to come to a head. Disturbing because of how they treated Pyrrha's lack of choice as something admirable. In the episodes to feature Pyrrha, her sense of respinsibility was always presented more as a curse than a blessing. She wanted to be both a great huntress and have normal relationships, but felt compelled to repeatedly sacrifice her desires because there was a slim chance it would benefit someone else. Her entire personality was built around her martyr complex, eventually leading her to die in vain, screwing over her friends in the process. Pyrrha's sacrifice did not make her nobler, just more tragic. This doesn't mean it was a bad scene at all. When in mourning, we spin the situation any way we can to get closure, but I am skeptical that the characters learned the right lesson.
Also, when nobody was looking, Emerald and Mercury got more character development than they have had in the whole series.
I swear, Adam will either get killed episode 10, or wind up hurting Blake more than just a gut wound. If this ends in a draw and everyone gets away, I'm going to be miffed. If Adam gets crushed under/blown up by that giant mecha I'll laugh at the irony.
That.. didn't turn out as I expected. They made Adam into a much more understandable character. And then… THAT happened.
That.. didn't turn out as I expected. They made Adam into a much more understandable character. And then… THAT happened.This feels like the end of Vol 3 all over again.
Either we get a Ruby wakes up uses her Silver eyes to nuke the girmm, which brings Cinder and Neo on her as the cliff hanger, or we have Ironwood show up with Atlas's army to save their butts bring Winter, Ironwood himself or maybe Penny 2.0 as a last second surprise/stinger tease.
As a real way out there guess, Watts and crew comes across the barely alive body of Adam floating down the river and he takes him with him. Possibly being turned into a cyber grimm hybrid to return at a later date.
I also predict that Yang will never get her bike back. Although she might get a new ride in Atlas.
Nice finale, but it felt short considering that the main plot was to take down a Grimm. Anyways, time to make a thread on gen:Lock?
I told myself I wasn’t going to write another textwall after Volume 6, that I’m not a professional reviewer and nobody has the patience to read through my giant tl;dr RWBY rants. Yet, here we are again. I guess I just wanted to organize my thoughts. Feel free to read or ignore.
RWBY is a frustrating show to follow. From the very start, there has been great potential, but every flash of brilliance is paired with an obvious misstep. After the disappointment of Volumes 4 and 5, 6 was a pleasant surprise. All my complaints were addressed, and it was clear the creative team took all the viewer criticism they’ve received seriously. Still, it feels strange to compliment a show for going from embarrassingly incompetent to pretty good. Still a net gain is worth appreciating, so here’s my thoughts.
It took me a while to warm up to Maria Calavera, because I figured she would be just another new character that winds up being irrelevant (Neptune, Illia, etc.), but she was proved worthwhile. Once I realized her role was to teach Ruby how to use her silver eye powers, something that was long overdue, I started to loosen up. Another part of what brought me around was Maria’s entertaining conflict with Caroline Cordovin, who is now one of my favorite villains in the series for her hamminess. Cordovin also represented something sorely lacking in the story. For years, we’ve been hearing that tension between the kingdoms was dangerously high, but it was never more than secondhand observations. Cordovin demonstrated the wounded pride of Atlas and how belligerent the kingdom had become. She’s funny, but she is also an introduction to the militarism we will probably see more of in the coming Volumes.
Come to think of it, the villains had some of the best development this Volume. Cinder embarking on a quest to redeem herself alongside Neo has great potential and I want to see more interactions between the two. Maybe the most underrated scene of the Volume was the argument between Emerald and Mercury, which gave depth to both characters and showed what separates them. Mercury had always been a one-note character whose role was to deliver the occasional dry quip, but now we know what motivates him and how he sees his position. It was a perfectly executed scene giving new life to under-examined characters. If I have any complaints about the villains at all, it’s that we didn’t see enough of them. I can’t wait to watch how they develop, especially when they confront the heroes. Hopefully, it will turn out more interestingly than it did at the end of Volume 5.
As for the action, it was fine. There aren’t as many fight scenes as there used to be, but the ones we got were enjoyable, especially the one between Neo and Cinder. Ruby vs. the giant Atlas mech was cool, even if the story surrounding it was not.
Also, Wicked Witch and flying monkeys lolololololololololololololol!
In Chapter 9, Jaune’s sister said, “I know your mission is important, but it’s not like you’re the only ones who can do it.” And you know, what? She’s right. If this is a potentially world-ending situation, why leave it to a small group of teenagers who never finished training? They may be emotionally invested, but what makes them the chosen ones? Shouldn’t they be recruiting the world’s greatest hunters to help them on their mission? This feeds into another question: Why is anyone doing anything? I mean, we don’t really know what Salem’s final goal is supposed to look like. We know that Ozpin is trying to contain the relics, which is only a temporary solution. A slow reveal of goals can be satisfying, but we are six years in and don’t know what the endgame is supposed to look like.
Some of the problems in Volume 6 are really misfires from previous Volumes coming home to roost. For example, Yang and Blake. At the end of Volume 5, Yang accepted her partner back into the fold, no apology necessary. Because of this, we never got to see Yang express her anger at Blake for being betrayed. Blake feels guilty, but Yang is already over it. That scene in Volume 5 in which Weiss convinces Yang to forgive Blake should have come is Volume 6 after much drama. Meanwhile, we got a close look at Yang’s PTSD just once in Volume 4. Since then, it manifests only as the occasional hand tremor. What all this adds up to is an encounter between Blake, Yang, and Adam which could have been much stronger. If there had still been serious tension between the two partners, it would have been more enjoyable to see it resolved during the fight. Maybe Yang, after months of re-building her confidence, comes face-to-face with Adam and has a panic attack, only to be saved by Blake, leading to forgiveness. Instead, we got a moment that, while emotional, could have been better. Also, it feels weird to shift gears into Bumblebee after two years of hinting so hard at Black Sun. Bumblebee is a better ship, of course, but Blake dropped one for the other pretty quick.
I’m not really feeling Nice Weiss, which is strange because I know I should. Weiss is my favorite character and, in some ways, has had the best character arc, but something about her newfound warmth kind of bothers me. Maybe it’s because I never felt convinced that she was close to her teammates to begin with. Over the first few Volumes, she stripped away her worst qualities and became more cooperative. But that’s it. Despite all the promise, we barely Weiss interact with RWBY as anything more than a teammate and acquaintance. So, when she accepted her team as a new family, it felt unearned, and still does. Or maybe I just miss how Weiss was the bringer of group conflict in earlier Volumes. I wish she had some of her old bite back.
As I’ve mentioned before, a few important moments were poorly framed. Namely, the mythic origin story presented the gods as the good guys while also establishing them as the biggest threat in the series, and the scene between Jaune and Pyrrha’s mother treated her lack of choice as something admirable. I won’t go into further detail, as I’ve already done so elsewhere.
The ending was dumb as hell. Our heroes steal a vehicle from the world’s biggest military, nearly cause an international incident, endanger the lives of an entire townful of people, stall the monster long enough for someone else to clean up their mess, and then all their crimes were forgiven. All this instead of, say, sneaking into Atlas. The choreography was great and Ruby got to show off her leadership skills, but still…dumb.
I'm amazed that that I hand's heard much about the next season, but The RTX is going on soon and I guess it will be aired then.
Team Arkos wrote:
I'm amazed that that I hand's heard much about the next season, but The RTX is going on soon and I guess it will be aired then.
Hand's heard?
Um, I misspelled that. I meant to say "I haven't heard much about next season".
Oh god, they cut Blake's hair. WHY!?!
Do you know how late will the others watch RWBY compared to the FIRST accounts?
Sieben Schnee wrote:
Do you know how late will the others watch RWBY compared to the FIRST accounts?
One week delay for free RT users, 1 year later for youtube. I don't know for Crunchyroll and other services where the show is available.
Well. we're hitting a new buildup with the last few episodes
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