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Last posted Jan 20, 2020 at 11:33PM EST. Added May 08, 2016 at 11:44AM EDT
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You know, Tales of Remnant (The video game adaptation of RWBY) was pretty good! I still don't know why they made Velvet and Qrow into the same character (mixed with a little Raven and Yang), but the Beowolves are spot on!

…Wait, am I getting confused again?

Silent_Witness wrote:

What's that? Never heard of it before.

It's actually Tales of Berseria. The main character is a girl called Velvet Crowe who acts (and later looks) a lot like Raven, and the daemon werewolfs look almost exactly like Beowolves. Needless to say, the similarities made me post this.

Oh, also, you have a sort of out-of-place Asian guy dual wielding and a happy go lucky energetic girl who everyone loves join your team at the same time. Then there's the guy with the "ability" he's unable to control, which is bad luck.

Last edited Feb 13, 2017 at 02:46AM EST

QuarteredPen wrote:

It's actually Tales of Berseria. The main character is a girl called Velvet Crowe who acts (and later looks) a lot like Raven, and the daemon werewolfs look almost exactly like Beowolves. Needless to say, the similarities made me post this.

Oh, also, you have a sort of out-of-place Asian guy dual wielding and a happy go lucky energetic girl who everyone loves join your team at the same time. Then there's the guy with the "ability" he's unable to control, which is bad luck.

Ah. Threw me for a loop there.

QuarteredPen wrote:

Trust me, when they make a proper game for RWBY (Not just Grimm Eclipse) you wont see me for weeks. I'll be too busy playing to go on the internet.

I've said it before, and i'll say it again. They should totally make a RWBY visual novel.

Well, RT has admitted they will release a cannon non-visual novel some time in the future.

I have a theory as to where team RNJR and Qrow wound up at the end of Vol 4. It's not some hotel, but Jaune's own home. From what I remember, Jaune was from Mistral and he grew up in a rather safe place. Most likely in or around Haven.

As Jaune wanted to get into an Academy, but Haven knew what he was, And Vauco and Atlas was too far away (or he couldn't cheat his way into them), so Beacon was the only choice left.

After weeks on the road (and likely paying for Qrow's medical bills) they likely don't have as much cash as they would like to have. So crashing out at Jaune's mom and dad's home would save money. With his big family, it should also be a very big home so they would all have a bed to sleep in.

Lastly, it would be the perfect set up in Vol 5 to introduce Jaune's mom and dad into the show properly as they did with Blake's mom and dad.

Eh, I doubt it. I think Jaune was from a small town, not Mistral (From what I remember, we don't actually know where he grew up). It would be a little weird that Jaune lived in the exact same town as Pyrrha and still have no clue who she was, wouldn't it?

QuarteredPen wrote:

Eh, I doubt it. I think Jaune was from a small town, not Mistral (From what I remember, we don't actually know where he grew up). It would be a little weird that Jaune lived in the exact same town as Pyrrha and still have no clue who she was, wouldn't it?

Juane seems like he grew up in a place with out the fear of Grimm attacks. Only Big cities would be like that. Small towns get hit by bandits and Grimm. So if they survive, all of them would know some sort of fighting skills. And no it WOULDN'T be weird to not know of a famous person if you lived in a big city. Juane both didn't pay any attention to the social aspects of being a Huntsman before joining up and adapted to the life style of living in a BIG city where you just don't pay any attention all the faces in the crowd. Anyone who lives in a REALLY big city (like New York) are often like that.

Also take into account that Pyrrha was likely raised in the upper class part of town and Jaune was likely raised in the working class part of town. Those two crossing paths would be unlikely.

QuarteredPen wrote:

Eh, I doubt it. I think Jaune was from a small town, not Mistral (From what I remember, we don't actually know where he grew up). It would be a little weird that Jaune lived in the exact same town as Pyrrha and still have no clue who she was, wouldn't it?

I have to admit, I've always found it a little bit strange how little we actually know about Jaune, despite how early on he was introduced in the series. At this point, he's probably the one primary character we know the least about.

I kind of want it to turn out that Jaune isn't really well known because he was actually recently created (But he just has fake memories). As in, he's either a human-Grimm spawned from Salems experiments (Explaining his massive strength) or a top-secret Atlas clone or android, built to imitate his "Grandfather", who is really a super-soldier who never had kids in the war. His "sisters" were just failed experiments or clones that came before him.

If it's Salem who created him, then she can actively spy on RNJR by looking directly through his eyes, which is how she knew what Ruby was wearing and how Tryian found the general area they were in (Although he still had to stop for directions)

It would explain why Ozpin was cool with him joining (Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer, he never really told him anything important) and how he got his fake transcripts in the first place (Dr. Watts or someone made them).

If that were the case, then why would Salem or Atlas send Jaune out without any combat training or his Aura unlocked? It doesn't seem sensible to create a supersoldier and then not give him any training to protect himself (and if he were part-Grimm, I don't imagine he'd have a very strong Aura, if he had one at all). Of course, there's the possibility he might have escaped before his training could begin, but then that just raises the question of why no one's out looking for him. Seems like he'd be quite an investment.

Honestly, I imagine Jaune's family is probably perfectly ordinary. Which I think would make his accomplishments much more impressive.

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Silent_Witness wrote:

If that were the case, then why would Salem or Atlas send Jaune out without any combat training or his Aura unlocked? It doesn't seem sensible to create a supersoldier and then not give him any training to protect himself (and if he were part-Grimm, I don't imagine he'd have a very strong Aura, if he had one at all). Of course, there's the possibility he might have escaped before his training could begin, but then that just raises the question of why no one's out looking for him. Seems like he'd be quite an investment.

Honestly, I imagine Jaune's family is probably perfectly ordinary. Which I think would make his accomplishments much more impressive.

Well in my opinion Jaune was just a simple farmboy like Oscar! (>inb4 it turns out they are relatives.) Maybe in a village where people still following the orders of the Emperor, much like there were japanese bases after WWII still ready to send bombers to destroy US forces. Though that can be foiled by the fact Jaune's name is following the color naming rule which wasn't the case before and during the war. Well maybe it's just a really secluded village….

Which is why it's going to be so brilliant when it happens! Hell, Neo could even be another "sister" of his who escaped!

But anyways, slightly less stupid theory I have: If we ever have a video game for RWBY (Like, a more canonical one) then Volume 4 is going to be where it starts, but it's only going to be about RNJR. Seriously, look at it. You have:

A) The tutorial, which gives you info that you should already know

(Jaune, use the A button to attack, ect)

B) Four Characters you can switch between (The tank, the speedy one, the agile one and the berserker). (Possibly five, if they have Pyrrha fighting Cinder as the real tutorial and Pyrrha's video as slightly more complex training, possibly six if you switch to Qrow during his fight with Tyrian

C) Plenty of reason to fight Grimm, and a simple reason about why they get progressively stronger (Qrow was keeping them back, but he lets the ones he thinks you can handle through. When he gets injured, you get faced with the toughest Grimm)

D) Status effects (Luck down when near Qrow, poison from Tyrian, paralysis when the Nuckavelee roars)

E) Escort missions (Protect Qrow)

F) Regular missions (They go into a town and the mayor asks them to get him fifteen Ursa asses)

G) Two bosses that are basically from Dark Souls (The Nuck and the wraith thing) and one that is made to kick your ass (Tyrian)

H) And finally, weapon/armour upgrades (At least for Jaune)

Silent_Witness wrote:

Thinking back, I have to admit that while we only saw him a few times, I find something very off-putting about Zwei's new design. I think it's his eyes.

It's cause they are silver colored! A silver eyed warrior must have a silver eyed doggo! Or he's really Summer.

Last edited Feb 21, 2017 at 12:55PM EST

Waiting for the next volume has me thirsting so hard for my RWBY fix that I've turned to reading fanfiction. I'm not sure why I still like RWBY so much, given that volume 4 was relatively weak imho. Maybe I just see potential… Well anyways, I'm not so desparate that I've turned to reading the one where Jaune is a stripper. Yet.

I still stand by the notion that fanfiction does not contribute significantly to the literary arts. It's probably good practice for the writers and fun to read for the viewers. Well, at least the ones that form coherent sentences. A majority of them are godawful.

That's why you search for them via the number of favourites, not by update dates.

But if you're talking about the fic that I think you're talking about (The Entertainer) it's actually not a bad fic. The focus isn't on Jaune being a super-sexy stripper everyone loves or anything. In all honestly, the stripper thing isn't really that important. What the story is actually about is the fear and anxiety Jaune feels entering into Beacon while trying to hide his job from the others (Which is difficult, since Yang knows his stripper persona, but doesn't know it's Jaune).

Yes, Jaune has a bit of an easier time connecting to girls, but he's detached to them, since he's worried that he's just stringing them along like he's supposed to do for his customers. Nobody (except Pyrrha, but the story isn't Arkos) falls in love with him or gets a crush. He's not even that good of a fighter. He still gets his ass kicked in most fights, and he's really only got a little bit more flexibility and grace to help him along.

All in all, I much prefer it to other fics that basically wipe his character out to replace him with their version of "Jaune". You know, the ones where he's a super-strong, confident, well-loved badass who makes everyone fall in love with him without trying, where the only thing that connects him to RWBY's Jaune is the same name and maybe mentions of his sisters. Hell, I've seen some where they literally change his personality, appearance, age and even voice (Yes, in a fanfic) and yet it's still beloved for some reason, despite the massive Gary Stu that the author obviously made Jaune into (Coughcough Mantle Of Heroism sucks Coughcough)

QuarteredPen wrote:

That's why you search for them via the number of favourites, not by update dates.

But if you're talking about the fic that I think you're talking about (The Entertainer) it's actually not a bad fic. The focus isn't on Jaune being a super-sexy stripper everyone loves or anything. In all honestly, the stripper thing isn't really that important. What the story is actually about is the fear and anxiety Jaune feels entering into Beacon while trying to hide his job from the others (Which is difficult, since Yang knows his stripper persona, but doesn't know it's Jaune).

Yes, Jaune has a bit of an easier time connecting to girls, but he's detached to them, since he's worried that he's just stringing them along like he's supposed to do for his customers. Nobody (except Pyrrha, but the story isn't Arkos) falls in love with him or gets a crush. He's not even that good of a fighter. He still gets his ass kicked in most fights, and he's really only got a little bit more flexibility and grace to help him along.

All in all, I much prefer it to other fics that basically wipe his character out to replace him with their version of "Jaune". You know, the ones where he's a super-strong, confident, well-loved badass who makes everyone fall in love with him without trying, where the only thing that connects him to RWBY's Jaune is the same name and maybe mentions of his sisters. Hell, I've seen some where they literally change his personality, appearance, age and even voice (Yes, in a fanfic) and yet it's still beloved for some reason, despite the massive Gary Stu that the author obviously made Jaune into (Coughcough Mantle Of Heroism sucks Coughcough)

And now you can understand why I don't like OCs. They are a disgrace! At least most of them. The problem with them is quite obvious, they are obnoxious Garry Stus/Marry Sues, they are irrationally overpowered with zero weaknesses, or if they have any, their weaknesses are usually something minor, needs extremely specific conditions to could be abused, or straight up bullshit like "my only weaknesses are the women!" (Womenizers… I quite dislike them, see Neptune Vasilias).

Well…. as of fanfics… I must owe a confess, above a few, I never read any fanfics of anything. The only fanfics I read was like 2 My Little Pony fanfics and 2 RWBY fanfics, and 1 short, that's my read count.

Penny wrote:

And now you can understand why I don't like OCs. They are a disgrace! At least most of them. The problem with them is quite obvious, they are obnoxious Garry Stus/Marry Sues, they are irrationally overpowered with zero weaknesses, or if they have any, their weaknesses are usually something minor, needs extremely specific conditions to could be abused, or straight up bullshit like "my only weaknesses are the women!" (Womenizers… I quite dislike them, see Neptune Vasilias).

Well…. as of fanfics… I must owe a confess, above a few, I never read any fanfics of anything. The only fanfics I read was like 2 My Little Pony fanfics and 2 RWBY fanfics, and 1 short, that's my read count.

You can apply that to many OCs in different animes like SAO, Jojo's Bizzare Adventure (To be honest, their OC stands are both edgy and not-balanced), and Naruto (Edginess Galore). For fuck sakes, I saw a fucking JBA stand with a name called MAXIMUS EJACULATUS for once somewhere in Deviantart.

That's why I stick to loving Vidya Gaem OCs. Examples are; Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Journey, Team Fortress 2, Overwatch, yadda-yadda-yadda etc. (Fuck off, FNAF.)

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Penny wrote:

And now you can understand why I don't like OCs. They are a disgrace! At least most of them. The problem with them is quite obvious, they are obnoxious Garry Stus/Marry Sues, they are irrationally overpowered with zero weaknesses, or if they have any, their weaknesses are usually something minor, needs extremely specific conditions to could be abused, or straight up bullshit like "my only weaknesses are the women!" (Womenizers… I quite dislike them, see Neptune Vasilias).

Well…. as of fanfics… I must owe a confess, above a few, I never read any fanfics of anything. The only fanfics I read was like 2 My Little Pony fanfics and 2 RWBY fanfics, and 1 short, that's my read count.

Reminds me of that garbage fic that killed Jaune's parents, made him grow up raised by Raven, stripped him of everything that made him "Jaune", gave him a freaking dust powered sword, made him super edgy, as well as making him competent in combat as well as confident. I had to slog through that on top of the poor grammar and noticing the writer's penchant for describing eyes as "orbs". Coeur makes good quality fics, and College Fool does some decent work as well, albeit too 'memey' for my tastes (Using "people die if they are killed" incorporated into the dialogue, for example. Ironic or not, it doesn't lend well to the flow of the words).

As of late, fanfiction has become a guilty pleasure of mine, if not for chuckling at amusing scenarios the writers think up, then for the masochistic task of picking through all the grammar and spelling errors.

QuarteredPen wrote:

That's why you search for them via the number of favourites, not by update dates.

But if you're talking about the fic that I think you're talking about (The Entertainer) it's actually not a bad fic. The focus isn't on Jaune being a super-sexy stripper everyone loves or anything. In all honestly, the stripper thing isn't really that important. What the story is actually about is the fear and anxiety Jaune feels entering into Beacon while trying to hide his job from the others (Which is difficult, since Yang knows his stripper persona, but doesn't know it's Jaune).

Yes, Jaune has a bit of an easier time connecting to girls, but he's detached to them, since he's worried that he's just stringing them along like he's supposed to do for his customers. Nobody (except Pyrrha, but the story isn't Arkos) falls in love with him or gets a crush. He's not even that good of a fighter. He still gets his ass kicked in most fights, and he's really only got a little bit more flexibility and grace to help him along.

All in all, I much prefer it to other fics that basically wipe his character out to replace him with their version of "Jaune". You know, the ones where he's a super-strong, confident, well-loved badass who makes everyone fall in love with him without trying, where the only thing that connects him to RWBY's Jaune is the same name and maybe mentions of his sisters. Hell, I've seen some where they literally change his personality, appearance, age and even voice (Yes, in a fanfic) and yet it's still beloved for some reason, despite the massive Gary Stu that the author obviously made Jaune into (Coughcough Mantle Of Heroism sucks Coughcough)

Izzat so? I read through the first few chapters, and they weren't too bad. Maybe when I've got nothing to do I'll go through it.

Penny wrote:

And now you can understand why I don't like OCs. They are a disgrace! At least most of them. The problem with them is quite obvious, they are obnoxious Garry Stus/Marry Sues, they are irrationally overpowered with zero weaknesses, or if they have any, their weaknesses are usually something minor, needs extremely specific conditions to could be abused, or straight up bullshit like "my only weaknesses are the women!" (Womenizers… I quite dislike them, see Neptune Vasilias).

Well…. as of fanfics… I must owe a confess, above a few, I never read any fanfics of anything. The only fanfics I read was like 2 My Little Pony fanfics and 2 RWBY fanfics, and 1 short, that's my read count.

Speaking as somebody who is currently writing fan fiction. I think OCs are a useful tool, that should not be used too often. I mostly give them secondary or minor roles that can't be filled by established characters. Even then, i do try to be careful not to have them overshadow the characters people actually care about. Which is a mistake you can make very easily.

Writing fan fiction is weird. It's both really easy, and yet really hard. It's easy because somebody else essentially already did half of the work. But it's also hard because, by the very nature of fan fiction, you're drawing comparisons to work that's almost certainly a lot better than anything you can make.

I don't mind OC's, especially when they're just side characters build for the purpose of adding, say, a nurse or a person who is skilled in the art of (BLANK) to train someone. If they're there for a reason, you can fill out their backstory a little, even make a new villain for them. Just as long as there aren't enough to get confusing, it should be fine.

Hell, I don't even mind when the main character is an OC as long as they're honest about it and the writing is good. Unfortunately, that's rather rare.
Instead, you get time-travelling future kids who can pull a full suit of dust-powered armour out of their ass, characters who make Yang fall in love with them on the very first night of Beacon because they were nice to Ruby or ones with that "gamer" power. You know, where their life becomes a video game, they get teleported to the RWBY universe and they immediately are cool with it.

The only one of those I like is Forged Destiny (Which is about Jaune, though), since it's actually original by making it an actual game world without any "players", it's more just a place where XP determines your strength, classes are a thing and the "NPC's" are just people who can't fight.

QuarteredPen wrote:

I don't mind OC's, especially when they're just side characters build for the purpose of adding, say, a nurse or a person who is skilled in the art of (BLANK) to train someone. If they're there for a reason, you can fill out their backstory a little, even make a new villain for them. Just as long as there aren't enough to get confusing, it should be fine.

Hell, I don't even mind when the main character is an OC as long as they're honest about it and the writing is good. Unfortunately, that's rather rare.
Instead, you get time-travelling future kids who can pull a full suit of dust-powered armour out of their ass, characters who make Yang fall in love with them on the very first night of Beacon because they were nice to Ruby or ones with that "gamer" power. You know, where their life becomes a video game, they get teleported to the RWBY universe and they immediately are cool with it.

The only one of those I like is Forged Destiny (Which is about Jaune, though), since it's actually original by making it an actual game world without any "players", it's more just a place where XP determines your strength, classes are a thing and the "NPC's" are just people who can't fight.

I do like Coeur's "Kitsune" OC. While I'm not crazy about the name, a sadistic nurse who's also a fox faunus is quite amusing.

You know, back to the concept of fanfics, you know what I would love? One where a self insert appears a while before the show starts. Maybe he's the same age, maybe he's just a kid, but he knows what's going to happen and finds either little Merc and Em or little Ren and Nora and raises them for a bit. Maybe he even meets a bunch of the other cast when they're young.

He keeps his secret about being from another world, but becomes pretty beloved by the people he's raising/being raised with. However, just a little before the show begins, maybe while fighting Adam on the train, he dies. No coming back to life, no going into a coma, just straight up dead.

Thus, many people have a different backstory and different personalities, the people he raised now want revenge against Adam, and all they have to go on to stop a giant catastrophe is a few vague words from the self insert who thought he could change everything himself. Stuff like "Run if you ever see a chick that controls fire" (Which means they fear Yang is evil, not realising Cinder has the same powers).

QuarteredPen wrote:

You know, back to the concept of fanfics, you know what I would love? One where a self insert appears a while before the show starts. Maybe he's the same age, maybe he's just a kid, but he knows what's going to happen and finds either little Merc and Em or little Ren and Nora and raises them for a bit. Maybe he even meets a bunch of the other cast when they're young.

He keeps his secret about being from another world, but becomes pretty beloved by the people he's raising/being raised with. However, just a little before the show begins, maybe while fighting Adam on the train, he dies. No coming back to life, no going into a coma, just straight up dead.

Thus, many people have a different backstory and different personalities, the people he raised now want revenge against Adam, and all they have to go on to stop a giant catastrophe is a few vague words from the self insert who thought he could change everything himself. Stuff like "Run if you ever see a chick that controls fire" (Which means they fear Yang is evil, not realising Cinder has the same powers).

I'm thinking of how I could put it. Perhaps the first part of the story would be in a first person POV, and after the self-insert dies, it'll be an objective POV as he either follows along as a sort of ghost or through some sort of portal as if he's watching what changes have occurred as a result of his actions through a TV screen. If you want, I could probably do a rough draft of a possible first chapter. I'm starting to acquaint myself in writefaggotry.

If you want to use the idea then go right ahead! I just thought it would be interesting to see at some point, rather than seeing another dual pistol/revolver wielding guy who happens to get a badass mentor and has every woman who's single fall in love with them as they go along to be the greatest fighter in Remnant. If you made it so that the person is unable to interact at all with anyone, or that the POV then switches to one of the characters that was close to him then I think that would make for a great twist.

I always do love to see a good plot twist that goes against common tropes. It's why I like Puella Magi Madoka Magica (Despite never seeing it) and Gurenn Lagann.

Honestly, I've tried to write fanfics before, but I never have the spare time to work on them. I always tell myself "This guy just ruined the story by doing X, I would have done this instead", but it's not like I've ever proven myself to be better.

QuarteredPen wrote:

I doubt it. The characters with professional voice actors probably wont make an appearance due to the cost of hiring them.

With the success and money RT is rolling in? Don't discount that from happening. In any case, they might do a one off appearance too.

QuarteredPen wrote:

I doubt it. The characters with professional voice actors probably wont make an appearance due to the cost of hiring them.

If you recall, Ozpin's voice actor narrated Team RWBY's rendition of Little Red Riding Hood. So it's not impossible for any character voiced by a professional to make an appearance. But, it's unlikely they'll be anything other than a one-off.

Ladies and Gentlemen welcome back to the Penny for your Thoughts! In today's episode we will destroy Earth with an army of Grimms in this simulated event.

The Setup

The year is 2017. The location is Terra, in the Sol system. You are an everyday Joe or Jane walking on the street to school/work/etc. when all of sudden the sky goes dark and a portal opens up, mysterious creatures, black as the darkest night with glowing red eyes emerge in all shapes and sizes. Some looks like giant ravens, others like bears, wolfs, elephants and even dinosaurs, creatures similar to mythical creatures you can see in fairy tales and myths. What to do, you run for your life. In a safe location you hear screams, yells for help, gun fires and roars of the creatures, the police is decimated in seconds, fire ravages as the creatures destroy buildings and devour humans, both dead and alive, the military prepares for a counter attack, the UN nations and leaders of the countries sit together in an emergency meeting to decide the next step, you hear the speakers informing people to evacuate the area and stay calm.

But how could anyone stay calm in a situation like this? And mostly can this be resolved? Can we defeat the Creatures of Grimm and restore the peace? We will see soon!

The Progress

The UN nations emergency meeting made one obvious decision. Counter strike. (No not the video game.) Since Earth is kinda out of Dust (how surprising) and we aren't protected by Aura or have super soldiers of that kind… we have to resolve to our guns, wit and intelligence. In first round we need to poke the Grimms to see actually what works and what not. Take this as the test of our basic weaponry. Since Grimms are kinda tough cookies, you can bet pistols and rednecks favorite weaponry the sawed of shotguns not really gonna do much against the Grimms, yeah they might work against smaller ones but the bigger ones? Hah! I don't think so! So to see what do we have?

Each nation has it's own advantage in ways, US has the technological advantage, China has the outnumbering tactic and Russia has… well they have vodka and Putin, it's something!

Well sad to say we only saw like 25% at most of the overall Creatures of Grimm types. Maybe even less…. and not every Grimm is about only raw brute force, for example we know of possessing type Grimms like the Geist which could possess everyday things and turn it into a creature of mass destruction, just imagine what would happen if a Geist could posses our military vehicles, basically Transformers just without the Autobots. Nevermores and other avian creatures could be decimating our air force, and basically we would be left with ground and navy… considering the naval Grimms didn't pop up yet….

So with that we reach….

The Conclusion

The military initially would be victorious over the creatures but….. well…. eventually as the stronger Grimms would pop up the weaker our weapons would get. And since I don't know what secret weapons we would have I can work with only what we have. Since Grimms are actually not biological, chemical and biological weapons wouldn't be effective, in fact that would just cause more death among the humans. Nuclear weapons would be effective as their boom could kill the Grimms and… honestly unless you are made out of 10km thick metal and concrete you wouldn't have a chance against a nuclear hit. Not even mention radioactivity is not just only affect biological things, whatever the Grimms are made out it has mass, if it has mass, it is made out of atoms and if something is made out of atoms it can be affected by radioactivity. But even if that way the Grimms are eradicated we would still be left with an irradiated planet, and only the fragment of the population would be left, on an inhabitable planet….

So it is safe to say, the Grimms would eventually win in the longer game.

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But the result would change depending of the speed of the grimm spawning. If the grimm appear everywhere at once it would be as you describe it. But un case they appear at a slower rate we would be able to adapt to them. Maybe even create weapons that are able to counter strike un a effective way.

Penny wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen welcome back to the Penny for your Thoughts! In today's episode we will destroy Earth with an army of Grimms in this simulated event.

The Setup

The year is 2017. The location is Terra, in the Sol system. You are an everyday Joe or Jane walking on the street to school/work/etc. when all of sudden the sky goes dark and a portal opens up, mysterious creatures, black as the darkest night with glowing red eyes emerge in all shapes and sizes. Some looks like giant ravens, others like bears, wolfs, elephants and even dinosaurs, creatures similar to mythical creatures you can see in fairy tales and myths. What to do, you run for your life. In a safe location you hear screams, yells for help, gun fires and roars of the creatures, the police is decimated in seconds, fire ravages as the creatures destroy buildings and devour humans, both dead and alive, the military prepares for a counter attack, the UN nations and leaders of the countries sit together in an emergency meeting to decide the next step, you hear the speakers informing people to evacuate the area and stay calm.

But how could anyone stay calm in a situation like this? And mostly can this be resolved? Can we defeat the Creatures of Grimm and restore the peace? We will see soon!

The Progress

The UN nations emergency meeting made one obvious decision. Counter strike. (No not the video game.) Since Earth is kinda out of Dust (how surprising) and we aren't protected by Aura or have super soldiers of that kind… we have to resolve to our guns, wit and intelligence. In first round we need to poke the Grimms to see actually what works and what not. Take this as the test of our basic weaponry. Since Grimms are kinda tough cookies, you can bet pistols and rednecks favorite weaponry the sawed of shotguns not really gonna do much against the Grimms, yeah they might work against smaller ones but the bigger ones? Hah! I don't think so! So to see what do we have?

Each nation has it's own advantage in ways, US has the technological advantage, China has the outnumbering tactic and Russia has… well they have vodka and Putin, it's something!

Well sad to say we only saw like 25% at most of the overall Creatures of Grimm types. Maybe even less…. and not every Grimm is about only raw brute force, for example we know of possessing type Grimms like the Geist which could possess everyday things and turn it into a creature of mass destruction, just imagine what would happen if a Geist could posses our military vehicles, basically Transformers just without the Autobots. Nevermores and other avian creatures could be decimating our air force, and basically we would be left with ground and navy… considering the naval Grimms didn't pop up yet….

So with that we reach….

The Conclusion

The military initially would be victorious over the creatures but….. well…. eventually as the stronger Grimms would pop up the weaker our weapons would get. And since I don't know what secret weapons we would have I can work with only what we have. Since Grimms are actually not biological, chemical and biological weapons wouldn't be effective, in fact that would just cause more death among the humans. Nuclear weapons would be effective as their boom could kill the Grimms and… honestly unless you are made out of 10km thick metal and concrete you wouldn't have a chance against a nuclear hit. Not even mention radioactivity is not just only affect biological things, whatever the Grimms are made out it has mass, if it has mass, it is made out of atoms and if something is made out of atoms it can be affected by radioactivity. But even if that way the Grimms are eradicated we would still be left with an irradiated planet, and only the fragment of the population would be left, on an inhabitable planet….

So it is safe to say, the Grimms would eventually win in the longer game.

This post reminds me of something: according to the mythology of the series so far, the creature of Grimm were created before humans. Essentially meaning that the two brothers left humans on a world teeming with monsters that have no biological needs and whose only goal is to make humans die. By all accounts, the Grimm should've wiped out humanity long before they managed to find a means of effectively fighting back. Meaning either humans had initially had divine protection, the myth isn't as accurate as people believe, or it's just a good old fashioned continuity error on the part of the writers. And of course, we have no idea how Faunus fit into the picture.

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Silent_Witness wrote:

This post reminds me of something: according to the mythology of the series so far, the creature of Grimm were created before humans. Essentially meaning that the two brothers left humans on a world teeming with monsters that have no biological needs and whose only goal is to make humans die. By all accounts, the Grimm should've wiped out humanity long before they managed to find a means of effectively fighting back. Meaning either humans had initially had divine protection, the myth isn't as accurate as people believe, or it's just a good old fashioned continuity error on the part of the writers. And of course, we have no idea how Faunus fit into the picture.

Well to answer your question. How about those relics?

Penny wrote:

Well to answer your question. How about those relics?

That's a fair enough point, even though we haven't actually seen any of the relics in action. Still somewhat of a dick move on the part of the brother of light. And my point about the Faunus stands.

Lexicanium Coeus wrote:

Don't forget that the masses of missiles that most countries have that would make short work of even the largest grimms.

And we aren't even talking about railguns.

Except they don't. Unlike some basic monsters, Grimms are said to be infinite in numbers unlike our missiles. So not really working… and rail guns? Pfftt! We have like what 5 of those? Railguns despite existing since a century not really used in modern combat for being locked to rail systems and possibly ships which would yet again vulnurable to Aquatic Grimms, and let's be honest, Grimms smart, they adapt fast. It wouldn't be wise to use all our aces.

Hmm… If the Grimm simply come from a portal in the sky in the middle of the major cities, then of course we'd be fucked. If it was just one portal in particular, and you just so happen to be at ground zero, the area could potentially be quarantined and fortified with walls and cannons. Perhaps grievous civilian casualties would result in that area, but it would buy precious time for the governments to come up with a plan.

Conscription would be mandatory, and any breaches in the wall would have to be dealt with by the citizens, but so long as century-old Grimm don't come popping out of the hole, as long as Humanity keeps on top of extermination, they'll be able to keep the Grimm at bay.

Concerning weaponry, if pistols and shotguns are unable to affect Grimm, would rifle and sub-rifle calibres be able to take out a Grimm? If Crescent Rose is anything to go by, an .50 calibre rifle should be able to make short work of a Beowolf-sized Grimm. With sufficient training, you could be able to fire a /50 calibre rifle standing. Perhaps squads of soldiers equipped with weapons of comparable power would be analogous to Huntsmen and Huntresses. The only part where they would lack is in the mobility department.

I do think that the air force would be fully capable of dealing with Nevermores. Perhaps rotary-wing aircraft might have a bit of trouble with them, but fighter jets shouldn't have too much trouble. Even if air superiority was out of the question, if the wall that was mentioned earlier is constructed, anti-air autocannons would shred the Nevermores. The Grimm Dragon is another story.

I've made most of my argument, but I'm gonna cut it short. I'm tired.

hey Mah_buddy_keith, energy rifles are a thing in Remnant too. And seeing how many bullets it takes to drop a Grimm, an energy gun would be much more efficient and longer lasting as long as the power keeps flowing.

I know I’m getting ahead of myself, but I’m almost positive that if RNJR runs into Cinder and co. again, the latter will almost certainly try to use either Penny or Pyrrha’s image against them. The sad thing is, with the heroes' track record so far, RNJR is almost guaranteed to fall for it, at least the first time.

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