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About

Release the JJ Cut, also known as Release the Abrams Cut and by the hashtag #ReleaseTheJJCut, is an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory regarding the production of the film Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. According to a viral Reddit post from January 2020, Abrams, the director of The Rise of Skywalker had assembled a different version of the film, which Disney and Lucasfilm, the studios that produced and released Skywalker and other Star Wars films, edited the film without the approval or input of the director. The thread inspired public backlash from fans, who demand to see this cut of the film. However, some have denounced the post as unverified and likely false.

Origin

On January 2nd, 2020, Redditor[1] egoshoppe posted "Here's what I've been told from a source that worked on TROS" in the /r/saltierthancrait subreddit, a forum that, as described by the subreddit, "was founded not only as a place for people to air their issues and grievances with the Disney Trilogy, but also to help reduce the amount of arguments and negativity within other Star Wars communities." The post, which received more than 11,000 points (93% upvoted) and 3,000 comments, described a number of changes made to the film as well as details clashes between the studio, Disney and Lucasfilm, and J.J. Abrams, who according to the post, turned in a three-hour cut of the film. They write:

Since shortly after release weekend, I’ve been corresponding with someone who worked closely on the production of TROS and works for one of the major companies I cannot disclose here. I have verified the source to my satisfaction. To protect the source, I am rewording what we spoke about over the last two weeks and am submitting it to you in bullet point format I have written based on what they told me. The TLDR is that they were upset with the final product of TROS and wanted to share their perspective on how it went down and where it went wrong.

These rumors include:

- WB wants Abrams for some DC projects. My source said that this generation’s Star Wars is the MCU, and Marvel’s biggest threat is a well operational DC. They want to keep DC in the limbo that they’re in right now. Abrams jumpstarting that franchise with something like a successful, audience-pleasing Superman movie makes them nervous. Their goal is to make JJ look bad to potential investors/shareholders.

- JJ was devastated and blindsided by this. He’s been feeling down over the last 6 months because of some of the ridiculous demands Disney had that changed his movie’s story. While the scenes were shot, a lot of the changes were made in post-production and the audio was rerecorded and altered. My source said they’ve never seen anything like this happen before. He’s the director and he wasn’t in the know about what they were doing behind his back.

- The “ending that will blow your mind” was a part of this. Older actors were included like Hayden, Ewan and Samuel and anyone who wasn’t animated. The force ghosts weren’t meant to be voices because they shot that footage on camera. The actors were in costumes. Rey was supposed to be surrounded by the force ghosts to serve as sort of a barrier between her and the Sith surrounding them.

- Babu Frik was nearly cut because some execs at Disney thought he would be the new Jar Jar. They are really surprised that people love him this much. He was JJ's idea and was created in collaboration with some artists and puppeteers. The personality was all JJ.

- Jannah was confirmed to be Lando’s daughter.

- Finn wanting to tell Rey something was always meant to be force sensitivity. In the 3 hour cut, it’s explicitly stated. There was a moment when Jannah and he were running on top of that star destroyer and Finn needed to unlock or move something and he force-moved it and acted surprised when it happened. This was replaced with a CGI’d BB-8 fixing whatever he needed to fix on there.

- The Kylo/Rey scene where he dies was at least 4 minutes longer with more dialogue. Ben was always supposed to die. Source also added that if he wasn’t, then that might’ve been in an earlier draft which they haven’t read. The first draft they read included Lando (the first few didn’t). The Reylo kiss and Ben’s death was not part of the reshoots. It was a part of the re-editing. Even the cut that JJ thought was coming out earlier this month had a longer version of that scene than what was shown in the theatrical cut.

- JJ was against the Reylo kiss (or Reylo in general). This was Disney's attempt to please both sides of the fandom.

Spread

Following the spread of the post, people responded to the rumors on Twitter. For example, Twitter[2] user @stellarcarol tweeted, "i refuse to believe that finn is NOT force sensitive, he used luke’s lightsaber, was able to keep up a fight without any training and he sensed rey dying because of their force bond, WHY WAS THIS NOT SHOWN? #ReleaseTheJJCut." The post received more than 1,100 likes and 195 retweets in less than 24 hours (shown below, left).

Film reporter Peter Sciretta responded negatively to the rumors. He tweeted,[3] "Do yourself a favor, don’t believe any crazy reddit conspiracy theories about TROS. Most of them read like laughable ridiculous fan fiction. It’s amazing to me that people think this stuff could be true." He continued by sharing an example of things the he did not find plausible with the rumors, highlighting that Disney purposely wanted to make JJ look bad with The Rise of Skywalker. He wrote, "Here is an example of how bad it is, yet people somehow believe it to be true? So, let’s get this straight…. Disney sabotaged one of their biggest franchise films so that JJ would look bad to WB who had already signed a deal with him? None of this makes any sense" (shown below, center and right).


sylvia @stellarcarol i refuse to believe that finn is NOT force sensitive, he used luke's lightsaber, was able to keep up a fight without any training and he sensed rey dying because of their force bond, WHY WAS THIS NOT SHOWN? #ReleaseTheJJCut Finn wanting to tell Rey something was always meant to be force sensitivity. In the 3 hour cut, it's explicitly stated. There was a moment when Jannah and he were running on top of that star destroyer and Finn needed to unlock or move something and he force-moved it and acted surprised when it happened. This was replaced with a CGI'd BB-8 fixina whatever he needed to fıx on 8:06 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPad
Peter Sciretta @PeterSciretta Do yourself a favor, don't believe any crazy reddit conspiracy theories about TROS. Most of them read like laughable ridiculous fan fiction. It's amazing to me that people think this stuff could be true. 1:52 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone
Peter Sciretta @PeterSciretta · Jan 2 Replying to @PeterSciretta Here is an example of how bad it is, yet people somehow believe it to be true? LTE 1:54 7 ... • WB wants Abrams for some DC projects. My source said that this generation's Star Wars is the MCU, and Marvel's biggest threat is a well operational DC. They want to keep DC in the limbo that they're in right now. Abrams jumpstarting that franchise with something like a successful, audience-pleasing Superman movie makes them nervous. Their goal is to make JJ look bad to lobarabalaa 27 15 8. 115 Peter Sciretta @PeterSciretta · Jan 2 So, let's get this straight... Disney sabotaged one of their biggest franchise films so that JJ would look bad to WB who had already signed a deal with him? None of this makes any sense. (Pulling out hair while laughing emoji)

Others made jokes and memes about the rumored cut. Twitter[4] user @KyloIsSad tweeted a Nicole And Charlie's 'Marriage Story' Argument about the rumors. The post received more than 1,500 likes and 285 retweets in less than 24 hours (shown below).

Sad Kylo Ren @KylolsSad Disney vs JJ Abrams on Darth Vader #ReleaseTheJJCut Anakin Skywalker isn't just an "some guy". He's a vital part of the Prequels! Nobody cares abouta stupid Force ghost of some guy! Just-remove.him Nobody even likes the Prequel trilogy unironically! 7:56 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter Web App

Many media outlets decried the rumors. Forbes[5] described the post as "fan-fiction of everything this community wants to hear about what went wrong with Rise of Skywalker." Ringer[6] wrote, "Conveniently, everything the good folks at r/saltierthancrait hated was concocted solely by Disney to sell toys or, bizarrely, to accommodate the Chinese government’s dislike for a certain shade of blue. And everything they liked--specifically the charming, pocket-size droid mechanic Babu Frik--was something Abrams not only created but had to fight tooth and nail to save."

Various Examples


Ziggy @mrjafri Fixed it for you #ReleaseTheJJCut 12:53 PM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPad
It's Not Disney. It's Disney Prime Video. prime video @GetDisneyPrime Thank you for your support of #ReleaseTheJJCut . This scene as well as many more instances of Finn yelling Rey's name while she's busy doing more important stuff will now finally see the light of day. We'll also show you how Kylo Ren Dark Knight Rises'd his way back to Exogol. What did Finn need to tell Rey? I'm force sensitive 15.3% I love you 7.7% I teabag Poe when he naps 47.4% I hate sand! 29.7% 1,108 votes · Final results 9:17 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter Web App
Han Spinel @Han_Spinel What stands out to me: the discrepancies between the VD/final cut, Interviews w/ JJ suggesting Finn's origins would be just as integral as Rey's, John indicating that he had a huge moment on set, but not hyping the movie after seeing the premiere #ReleaseTheJJCut Finn's Origin Will Also Be Part of The The Rise of Skywalker vows to be an ending for the Star Wars saga trilogies, but director J.J. Abrams said the movie will also explore Rise of Skywalker beginnings, particularly one that has gone largely overlooked. BY ANTHONY BREZNICAN DECEMBER 2, 2019 10:32 AM It's not just "Who's Rey?"-it's "Who's Finn?" 5,171 likes johnboyega Great working day on set! The whole team pushed themselves today to achieve something visually crazy! I've had many moments of shock on set but not like today and I can't wait until you know why . COURTESY OF LUCASFILM LTD. 10:42 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone

Sad Kylo Ren @KylolsSad Wow in the original scene, Rey and I went to Exegol TOGETHER #ReleaseTheJJCut #ReleaseTheAbramsCut Twitter/IG: KylolsSad Getin loser, we're going to Exegol. 11:19 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for Android
BSK Resident Evil 3 * @BSKtheKing #ReleaseTheJJCut So to end off Disney SW Saga of disappointment -Reylo wasn't intended -Adam Driver got robbed an Oscar winning performance -Disney's a hypocrite that only pretends to be pro LGBTQ/diverse -We were all robbed a SW Endgame portal scene with all the jedi assembling • There were a bunch of scenes where Rey and Kylo (separately) went through quiet moments of reflection to deal with what they were going through. On her part, her going through the realization that there's something sinister about her past. Him going through regret and remorse but trying to shut it out. My source said that the Kylo scenes were especially amazing because of Adam's The "ending that will blow your mind" was a part of this. Older were included like actors Hayden, Ewan and Samuel and anyone who wasn't animated. The force ahosts weren't meant • The source asked about FinnPoe after seeing Oscar Isaac's comment about how Disney didn't want it to be a thing. This is true. JJ fought to make this happen. This is why Oscar is blaming Disney. It's not just a random throwaway comment. He knows for a fact that it was Disney because these discussions happened. The main cast is insanely close with JJ and are just as p-----, though seemingly more outspoken about it than JJ. During TFA, norformanes and how hn manaand to The Kylo/Rey scene where he dies was at least 4 minutes longer with more dialogue. Ben was always supposed to die. Source also added that if he wasn't, then that might've been in an earlier draft which they haven't read. The first draft they read included Lando (the first few didn't). The Reylo kiss and Ben's death was not part of the reshoots. It was a part of the re-editing. Even the cut that JJ thought was coming out earlier this month had a longer version of that scene than Disnev wae hesitant to hire John 7:48 PM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for Android
Holy-Wan Kenobi @highgroundben Imagine cutting this scene: «- You can't defeat the me, I am all the sith! -And I am all the Jedi! * Obi Wan suddenly appears -AND I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND» #ReleaseTheJJCut 11:55 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone

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About

Release the JJ Cut, also known as Release the Abrams Cut and by the hashtag #ReleaseTheJJCut, is an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory regarding the production of the film Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. According to a viral Reddit post from January 2020, Abrams, the director of The Rise of Skywalker had assembled a different version of the film, which Disney and Lucasfilm, the studios that produced and released Skywalker and other Star Wars films, edited the film without the approval or input of the director. The thread inspired public backlash from fans, who demand to see this cut of the film. However, some have denounced the post as unverified and likely false.

Origin

On January 2nd, 2020, Redditor[1] egoshoppe posted "Here's what I've been told from a source that worked on TROS" in the /r/saltierthancrait subreddit, a forum that, as described by the subreddit, "was founded not only as a place for people to air their issues and grievances with the Disney Trilogy, but also to help reduce the amount of arguments and negativity within other Star Wars communities." The post, which received more than 11,000 points (93% upvoted) and 3,000 comments, described a number of changes made to the film as well as details clashes between the studio, Disney and Lucasfilm, and J.J. Abrams, who according to the post, turned in a three-hour cut of the film. They write:

Since shortly after release weekend, I’ve been corresponding with someone who worked closely on the production of TROS and works for one of the major companies I cannot disclose here. I have verified the source to my satisfaction. To protect the source, I am rewording what we spoke about over the last two weeks and am submitting it to you in bullet point format I have written based on what they told me. The TLDR is that they were upset with the final product of TROS and wanted to share their perspective on how it went down and where it went wrong.

These rumors include:

- WB wants Abrams for some DC projects. My source said that this generation’s Star Wars is the MCU, and Marvel’s biggest threat is a well operational DC. They want to keep DC in the limbo that they’re in right now. Abrams jumpstarting that franchise with something like a successful, audience-pleasing Superman movie makes them nervous. Their goal is to make JJ look bad to potential investors/shareholders.

- JJ was devastated and blindsided by this. He’s been feeling down over the last 6 months because of some of the ridiculous demands Disney had that changed his movie’s story. While the scenes were shot, a lot of the changes were made in post-production and the audio was rerecorded and altered. My source said they’ve never seen anything like this happen before. He’s the director and he wasn’t in the know about what they were doing behind his back.

- The “ending that will blow your mind” was a part of this. Older actors were included like Hayden, Ewan and Samuel and anyone who wasn’t animated. The force ghosts weren’t meant to be voices because they shot that footage on camera. The actors were in costumes. Rey was supposed to be surrounded by the force ghosts to serve as sort of a barrier between her and the Sith surrounding them.

- Babu Frik was nearly cut because some execs at Disney thought he would be the new Jar Jar. They are really surprised that people love him this much. He was JJ's idea and was created in collaboration with some artists and puppeteers. The personality was all JJ.

- Jannah was confirmed to be Lando’s daughter.

- Finn wanting to tell Rey something was always meant to be force sensitivity. In the 3 hour cut, it’s explicitly stated. There was a moment when Jannah and he were running on top of that star destroyer and Finn needed to unlock or move something and he force-moved it and acted surprised when it happened. This was replaced with a CGI’d BB-8 fixing whatever he needed to fix on there.

- The Kylo/Rey scene where he dies was at least 4 minutes longer with more dialogue. Ben was always supposed to die. Source also added that if he wasn’t, then that might’ve been in an earlier draft which they haven’t read. The first draft they read included Lando (the first few didn’t). The Reylo kiss and Ben’s death was not part of the reshoots. It was a part of the re-editing. Even the cut that JJ thought was coming out earlier this month had a longer version of that scene than what was shown in the theatrical cut.

- JJ was against the Reylo kiss (or Reylo in general). This was Disney's attempt to please both sides of the fandom.

Spread

Following the spread of the post, people responded to the rumors on Twitter. For example, Twitter[2] user @stellarcarol tweeted, "i refuse to believe that finn is NOT force sensitive, he used luke’s lightsaber, was able to keep up a fight without any training and he sensed rey dying because of their force bond, WHY WAS THIS NOT SHOWN? #ReleaseTheJJCut." The post received more than 1,100 likes and 195 retweets in less than 24 hours (shown below, left).

Film reporter Peter Sciretta responded negatively to the rumors. He tweeted,[3] "Do yourself a favor, don’t believe any crazy reddit conspiracy theories about TROS. Most of them read like laughable ridiculous fan fiction. It’s amazing to me that people think this stuff could be true." He continued by sharing an example of things the he did not find plausible with the rumors, highlighting that Disney purposely wanted to make JJ look bad with The Rise of Skywalker. He wrote, "Here is an example of how bad it is, yet people somehow believe it to be true? So, let’s get this straight…. Disney sabotaged one of their biggest franchise films so that JJ would look bad to WB who had already signed a deal with him? None of this makes any sense" (shown below, center and right).


sylvia @stellarcarol i refuse to believe that finn is NOT force sensitive, he used luke's lightsaber, was able to keep up a fight without any training and he sensed rey dying because of their force bond, WHY WAS THIS NOT SHOWN? #ReleaseTheJJCut Finn wanting to tell Rey something was always meant to be force sensitivity. In the 3 hour cut, it's explicitly stated. There was a moment when Jannah and he were running on top of that star destroyer and Finn needed to unlock or move something and he force-moved it and acted surprised when it happened. This was replaced with a CGI'd BB-8 fixina whatever he needed to fıx on 8:06 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPad Peter Sciretta @PeterSciretta Do yourself a favor, don't believe any crazy reddit conspiracy theories about TROS. Most of them read like laughable ridiculous fan fiction. It's amazing to me that people think this stuff could be true. 1:52 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone Peter Sciretta @PeterSciretta · Jan 2 Replying to @PeterSciretta Here is an example of how bad it is, yet people somehow believe it to be true? LTE 1:54 7 ... • WB wants Abrams for some DC projects. My source said that this generation's Star Wars is the MCU, and Marvel's biggest threat is a well operational DC. They want to keep DC in the limbo that they're in right now. Abrams jumpstarting that franchise with something like a successful, audience-pleasing Superman movie makes them nervous. Their goal is to make JJ look bad to lobarabalaa 27 15 8. 115 Peter Sciretta @PeterSciretta · Jan 2 So, let's get this straight... Disney sabotaged one of their biggest franchise films so that JJ would look bad to WB who had already signed a deal with him? None of this makes any sense. (Pulling out hair while laughing emoji)


Others made jokes and memes about the rumored cut. Twitter[4] user @KyloIsSad tweeted a Nicole And Charlie's 'Marriage Story' Argument about the rumors. The post received more than 1,500 likes and 285 retweets in less than 24 hours (shown below).


Sad Kylo Ren @KylolsSad Disney vs JJ Abrams on Darth Vader #ReleaseTheJJCut Anakin Skywalker isn't just an "some guy". He's a vital part of the Prequels! Nobody cares abouta stupid Force ghost of some guy! Just-remove.him Nobody even likes the Prequel trilogy unironically! 7:56 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter Web App

Many media outlets decried the rumors. Forbes[5] described the post as "fan-fiction of everything this community wants to hear about what went wrong with Rise of Skywalker." Ringer[6] wrote, "Conveniently, everything the good folks at r/saltierthancrait hated was concocted solely by Disney to sell toys or, bizarrely, to accommodate the Chinese government’s dislike for a certain shade of blue. And everything they liked--specifically the charming, pocket-size droid mechanic Babu Frik--was something Abrams not only created but had to fight tooth and nail to save."

Various Examples


Ziggy @mrjafri Fixed it for you #ReleaseTheJJCut 12:53 PM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPad It's Not Disney. It's Disney Prime Video. prime video @GetDisneyPrime Thank you for your support of #ReleaseTheJJCut . This scene as well as many more instances of Finn yelling Rey's name while she's busy doing more important stuff will now finally see the light of day. We'll also show you how Kylo Ren Dark Knight Rises'd his way back to Exogol. What did Finn need to tell Rey? I'm force sensitive 15.3% I love you 7.7% I teabag Poe when he naps 47.4% I hate sand! 29.7% 1,108 votes · Final results 9:17 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter Web App Han Spinel @Han_Spinel What stands out to me: the discrepancies between the VD/final cut, Interviews w/ JJ suggesting Finn's origins would be just as integral as Rey's, John indicating that he had a huge moment on set, but not hyping the movie after seeing the premiere #ReleaseTheJJCut Finn's Origin Will Also Be Part of The The Rise of Skywalker vows to be an ending for the Star Wars saga trilogies, but director J.J. Abrams said the movie will also explore Rise of Skywalker beginnings, particularly one that has gone largely overlooked. BY ANTHONY BREZNICAN DECEMBER 2, 2019 10:32 AM It's not just "Who's Rey?"-it's "Who's Finn?" 5,171 likes johnboyega Great working day on set! The whole team pushed themselves today to achieve something visually crazy! I've had many moments of shock on set but not like today and I can't wait until you know why . COURTESY OF LUCASFILM LTD. 10:42 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone
Sad Kylo Ren @KylolsSad Wow in the original scene, Rey and I went to Exegol TOGETHER #ReleaseTheJJCut #ReleaseTheAbramsCut Twitter/IG: KylolsSad Getin loser, we're going to Exegol. 11:19 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for Android BSK Resident Evil 3 * @BSKtheKing #ReleaseTheJJCut So to end off Disney SW Saga of disappointment -Reylo wasn't intended -Adam Driver got robbed an Oscar winning performance -Disney's a hypocrite that only pretends to be pro LGBTQ/diverse -We were all robbed a SW Endgame portal scene with all the jedi assembling • There were a bunch of scenes where Rey and Kylo (separately) went through quiet moments of reflection to deal with what they were going through. On her part, her going through the realization that there's something sinister about her past. Him going through regret and remorse but trying to shut it out. My source said that the Kylo scenes were especially amazing because of Adam's The "ending that will blow your mind" was a part of this. Older were included like actors Hayden, Ewan and Samuel and anyone who wasn't animated. The force ahosts weren't meant • The source asked about FinnPoe after seeing Oscar Isaac's comment about how Disney didn't want it to be a thing. This is true. JJ fought to make this happen. This is why Oscar is blaming Disney. It's not just a random throwaway comment. He knows for a fact that it was Disney because these discussions happened. The main cast is insanely close with JJ and are just as p-----, though seemingly more outspoken about it than JJ. During TFA, norformanes and how hn manaand to The Kylo/Rey scene where he dies was at least 4 minutes longer with more dialogue. Ben was always supposed to die. Source also added that if he wasn't, then that might've been in an earlier draft which they haven't read. The first draft they read included Lando (the first few didn't). The Reylo kiss and Ben's death was not part of the reshoots. It was a part of the re-editing. Even the cut that JJ thought was coming out earlier this month had a longer version of that scene than Disnev wae hesitant to hire John 7:48 PM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for Android Holy-Wan Kenobi @highgroundben Imagine cutting this scene: «- You can't defeat the me, I am all the sith! -And I am all the Jedi! * Obi Wan suddenly appears -AND I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND» #ReleaseTheJJCut 11:55 AM · Jan 2, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone

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