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About

Tiddygate2021 refers to a viral debate in the Dungeons & Dragons community about whether or not Lizardfolk,[1] a species of bipedal human-like lizards, should have breasts or not. The debate largely took place on the /r/DnD and /r/DnDmemes subreddits throughout early 2021, where it was deemed "Tiddygate2021" on the latter and given its own post flair.

Origin

On July 10th, 2020, Redditor /u/adultwhitedragon made a post to /r/DnD[2] simply titled, "Do Lizardfolk have titties." The post gained over 50 comments in seven months, with most agreeing that Lizardfolk do not have breasts or that it's up to the player's discretion (example comments shown below).

dnd_curious 7 months ago In 5E, Lizardfolk as a playable race was introduced in Volo's guide. While there's no official word on this; consider the following from the race description: Their physical shape notwithstanding, lizardfolk have more in common wi
Gen_pinkledink 7 months ago no I hate that s---! Lizards dont produce milk in order to feed their young so they do t have mammary glands which are t------. To differentiate between males and females in lizards give the males more colorful patterns as they

On February 2nd, webcomic creator and Instagram[3] user @couldbeworsecomic posted a comic referencing Lizardfolk breasts, implying they don't have any, garnering over 1,600 likes in a month (shown below, left). On February 3rd, 2021, /u/Nattani uploaded the comic to /r/Dndmemes,[4] garnering over 45,800 upvotes in a comparable span of time, igniting lite arguments about the topic in the comments section.

On February 12th, @couldbeworsecomic posted a follow-up to the comic on Instagram[5] doubling-down on the idea that female Lizardfolk don't have breasts, referencing the debate in the caption, writing, "People get really defensive about comics on mammary-less reptile girls, so I made another one, you are welcome" (shown below, right). The comic gained 1,500 likes in two weeks. It was reposted to /r/DnD[9] by /u/CouldBeWorse_comic the next day, garnering over 4,400 upvotes in the same span of time.


DAMN GIRL I DIDN'T KNOW LIZARDFOLK HAD BOOBS NICE! WE DON'T WE'RE NOT MAMMALS I JUST KEEP MY SNACKS THERE YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY SNACKS
I DIDN'T KNOW REPTILES COULD GROW A PAIR THAT SEXY ARE YOU PERVING ON MY EGGS? YOU CREEP! THIS GUY OGLING YOUR EGGS? SO WHAT DID WE LEARN TODAY

On February 25th, Redditor /u/15Orphans posted a photoshopped comic strip under the title "Deal with it pleb" (shown below) to /r/DnDmemes[6] asserting that if the artist wants to draw breasts on female Lizardfolk, they will, garnering over 34,800 upvotes and 770 comments in five days (many of them arguing about Lizardfolk breasts).

HEY HOW WAS SCHOOL TODAY A KID IN ART CLASS TOLD ME THE TIDDIES ON MY LIZARD WOMAN DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AND WHAT DID YOU DO? I JUST DREW THEM BIGGER AND SAID "IT'S FICTIONAL I DRAW WHAT I WANT YOU PLEBIAN" ATTABOY

Following this post, the flair "Tiddygate2021" was started by /r/DnDmemes[7] moderators to organize posts surrounding the debate, also increasing the amount of discourse around it.

Spread

Over the course of the next week leading into March, posts and memes discussing Tiddygate2021 and the function or necessity of breasts on Lizardfolk (sometimes referred to in posts as "snitties," a portmanteau of "snake" and "titties") increased significantly in volume, particularly on /r/DnDmemes, taking over the subreddit. While most of the debate is in good fun, some saw a deeper-rooted problem behind the memes.

On February 26th, Redditor /u/Yeah-But-Ironically posted a Jim Halpert Pointing to Whiteboard meme to /r/DnDmemes[11] suggesting Tiddygate2021 is about more than just breasts on Lizardfolk, but about fighting against the over-sexualization of female characters in DnD and fantasy fan art in general (shown below). This is a frequent topic of debate on both forums that predates Tiddygate2021, as some users find that too much oversexualized fan art ends up succeeding on the forum. The post gained over 48,700 upvotes and 270 comments in four days and is the top post under the flair as of March 2nd, 2021.


People who complain about lizardfolk boobs aren't mad that you got the biology wrong They're tired of women in fantasy being reduced to walking t--- and tacking mammaries onto reptiles is the most ridiculous example

On February 28th, /u/CaptainYesani and /u/RobotfaceX posted Lisa Simpson's Presentation memes discussing various aspects of the debate to /r/DnDmemes,[7][8] garnering over 6,800 and 5,500 upvotes and 200 comments each respectively in two days (shown below, left and right).

On the same day, Redditor /u/xx78900 posted a breakdown of the Tiddygate2021 drama to /r/SubredditDrama,[10] gaining over 670 upvotes in a day. That day, /r/DnDmemes moderator /u/toxik0n made a post[15] to the sub describing what was going on with the meme and assuring users that they were banning people who used it to post misogynistic or hateful content.

We could just remove the t--- from the lizards, solving the issue of anatomical inaccuracy, and give them fat asses and thick thighs instead i would provide an example but i'm not good at drawing lizard glip.com
If we start talking anatomically correct, Tortles should have d---- the size 3/4 of their bodies

Later that day, Redditor /u/Mdepietro posted an alignment chart referencing various standings on Lizardfolk breasts to /r/DnDmemes,[14] garnering over 13,200 upvotes in two days (shown below).

Reptilian Races Shouldn't Have Breasts Because They Aren't Mammals LAWFUL GOOD If Reptilian Races Can't Have Breasts, Avian Races Shouldn't Either. LA IVFUL. NEUTRAL Feline Races Should have 8 tiddies. LAWFUL EVIL Reptilian Races COULD Have Breasts if the

On March 1st, Redditor /u/Chromegost uploaded a crossover meme to /r/DnDmemes[12] featuring Busty Aunt Cass, another breast-themed meme format that went viral at the same time as Tiddygate2021, garnering over 32,000 upvotes in a day (shown below, left). On the same day, Redditor /u/n0753w posted a Family Guy meme referencing how strange the debate is to /r/DnDmemes,[13] garnering over 26,000 upvotes in a comparable span of time (shown below, right).

r/dankmemes fighting over Pixar moms having t------ r/dndmemes fighting over lizard women having t------ vanya and five
family guy r/dndmemes hey do you ever wonder if fictional snake women have t---? Normal D&D players Who the f--- starts a conversation like that? I just sat down!

Various Examples

Todd Phillips explaining to Joker This sub already tired of this discussion Me wanting to share my idea that lizard folk could have t--- as a way to store fat for leaner times which form on both genders when they have a steady supply good
THIS IS FAVORITE SUBREDDIT r/dndmemes Snake/lizard people shouldn't have boobs!
Memes about Lizardfolk with boobies Memes about Snakefolk with two d----
This Sub: Talking about Snake Tiddies and showing Pictures of them you people disgust me
Anyone: "Snake people with snitties are sexualised." Snake people without snitties: Top of the plate curVgda9Éwards asif made for covering fits Waist n$uceably ihinher Than chest an hip,ynåking a curve very specifie to human females.v That' f,herejis lite
EE 10:19 Actually, this has got me thinking. According to one evolutionary theory, one of the reasons that humans have such a long childhood and adolescence is because that is the price we pay for our complex brains to develop. One reason why non-mammals

Search Interest

Unavailable.

External References

[1] DnD Beyond – Lizardfolk.

[2] Reddit – Do Lizardfolk have titties

[3] Instagram – Who keeps drawing boobs on all these lizard and bird people?

[4] Reddit – Had to share this, credit to the artist.

[5] Instagram – People get really defensive about comics on mammary-less repitle girls

[6] Reddit – Deal with it pleb

[7] Reddit – I offer a compromise to the tiddy debate

[8] Reddit – And don't get me started on centaurs

[9] Reddit – Don't ogle the eggs [oc]

[10] Reddit – r/dndmemes debate whether its right or wrong to draw lizard-people with breasts.

[11] Reddit – bUT fAnTaSY iS SuPPoSeD tO Be uNrEaLiSTiC

[12] Reddit – What kind of crossover is this?

[13] Reddit – The state of this sub….

[14] Reddit – I Guess I'll Put My Two CP into the Debate.

[15] Reddit – Tiddygate 2021: Why is everyone talking about lizard boobs!?

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About

Tiddygate2021 refers to a viral debate in the Dungeons & Dragons community about whether or not Lizardfolk,[1] a species of bipedal human-like lizards, should have breasts or not. The debate largely took place on the /r/DnD and /r/DnDmemes subreddits throughout early 2021, where it was deemed "Tiddygate2021" on the latter and given its own post flair.

Origin

On July 10th, 2020, Redditor /u/adultwhitedragon made a post to /r/DnD[2] simply titled, "Do Lizardfolk have titties." The post gained over 50 comments in seven months, with most agreeing that Lizardfolk do not have breasts or that it's up to the player's discretion (example comments shown below).


dnd_curious 7 months ago In 5E, Lizardfolk as a playable race was introduced in Volo's guide. While there's no official word on this; consider the following from the race description: Their physical shape notwithstanding, lizardfolk have more in common wi Gen_pinkledink 7 months ago no I hate that s---! Lizards dont produce milk in order to feed their young so they do t have mammary glands which are t------. To differentiate between males and females in lizards give the males more colorful patterns as they

On February 2nd, webcomic creator and Instagram[3] user @couldbeworsecomic posted a comic referencing Lizardfolk breasts, implying they don't have any, garnering over 1,600 likes in a month (shown below, left). On February 3rd, 2021, /u/Nattani uploaded the comic to /r/Dndmemes,[4] garnering over 45,800 upvotes in a comparable span of time, igniting lite arguments about the topic in the comments section.

On February 12th, @couldbeworsecomic posted a follow-up to the comic on Instagram[5] doubling-down on the idea that female Lizardfolk don't have breasts, referencing the debate in the caption, writing, "People get really defensive about comics on mammary-less reptile girls, so I made another one, you are welcome" (shown below, right). The comic gained 1,500 likes in two weeks. It was reposted to /r/DnD[9] by /u/CouldBeWorse_comic the next day, garnering over 4,400 upvotes in the same span of time.


DAMN GIRL I DIDN'T KNOW LIZARDFOLK HAD BOOBS NICE! WE DON'T WE'RE NOT MAMMALS I JUST KEEP MY SNACKS THERE YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY SNACKS I DIDN'T KNOW REPTILES COULD GROW A PAIR THAT SEXY ARE YOU PERVING ON MY EGGS? YOU CREEP! THIS GUY OGLING YOUR EGGS? SO WHAT DID WE LEARN TODAY


On February 25th, Redditor /u/15Orphans posted a photoshopped comic strip under the title "Deal with it pleb" (shown below) to /r/DnDmemes[6] asserting that if the artist wants to draw breasts on female Lizardfolk, they will, garnering over 34,800 upvotes and 770 comments in five days (many of them arguing about Lizardfolk breasts).


HEY HOW WAS SCHOOL TODAY A KID IN ART CLASS TOLD ME THE TIDDIES ON MY LIZARD WOMAN DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AND WHAT DID YOU DO? I JUST DREW THEM BIGGER AND SAID "IT'S FICTIONAL I DRAW WHAT I WANT YOU PLEBIAN" ATTABOY

Following this post, the flair "Tiddygate2021" was started by /r/DnDmemes[7] moderators to organize posts surrounding the debate, also increasing the amount of discourse around it.

Spread

Over the course of the next week leading into March, posts and memes discussing Tiddygate2021 and the function or necessity of breasts on Lizardfolk (sometimes referred to in posts as "snitties," a portmanteau of "snake" and "titties") increased significantly in volume, particularly on /r/DnDmemes, taking over the subreddit. While most of the debate is in good fun, some saw a deeper-rooted problem behind the memes.

On February 26th, Redditor /u/Yeah-But-Ironically posted a Jim Halpert Pointing to Whiteboard meme to /r/DnDmemes[11] suggesting Tiddygate2021 is about more than just breasts on Lizardfolk, but about fighting against the over-sexualization of female characters in DnD and fantasy fan art in general (shown below). This is a frequent topic of debate on both forums that predates Tiddygate2021, as some users find that too much oversexualized fan art ends up succeeding on the forum. The post gained over 48,700 upvotes and 270 comments in four days and is the top post under the flair as of March 2nd, 2021.


People who complain about lizardfolk boobs aren't mad that you got the biology wrong They're tired of women in fantasy being reduced to walking t--- and tacking mammaries onto reptiles is the most ridiculous example


On February 28th, /u/CaptainYesani and /u/RobotfaceX posted Lisa Simpson's Presentation memes discussing various aspects of the debate to /r/DnDmemes,[7][8] garnering over 6,800 and 5,500 upvotes and 200 comments each respectively in two days (shown below, left and right).

On the same day, Redditor /u/xx78900 posted a breakdown of the Tiddygate2021 drama to /r/SubredditDrama,[10] gaining over 670 upvotes in a day. That day, /r/DnDmemes moderator /u/toxik0n made a post[15] to the sub describing what was going on with the meme and assuring users that they were banning people who used it to post misogynistic or hateful content.


We could just remove the t--- from the lizards, solving the issue of anatomical inaccuracy, and give them fat asses and thick thighs instead i would provide an example but i'm not good at drawing lizard glip.com If we start talking anatomically correct, Tortles should have d---- the size 3/4 of their bodies

Later that day, Redditor /u/Mdepietro posted an alignment chart referencing various standings on Lizardfolk breasts to /r/DnDmemes,[14] garnering over 13,200 upvotes in two days (shown below).


Reptilian Races Shouldn't Have Breasts Because They Aren't Mammals LAWFUL GOOD If Reptilian Races Can't Have Breasts, Avian Races Shouldn't Either. LA IVFUL. NEUTRAL Feline Races Should have 8 tiddies. LAWFUL EVIL Reptilian Races COULD Have Breasts if the

On March 1st, Redditor /u/Chromegost uploaded a crossover meme to /r/DnDmemes[12] featuring Busty Aunt Cass, another breast-themed meme format that went viral at the same time as Tiddygate2021, garnering over 32,000 upvotes in a day (shown below, left). On the same day, Redditor /u/n0753w posted a Family Guy meme referencing how strange the debate is to /r/DnDmemes,[13] garnering over 26,000 upvotes in a comparable span of time (shown below, right).


r/dankmemes fighting over Pixar moms having t------ r/dndmemes fighting over lizard women having t------ vanya and five family guy r/dndmemes hey do you ever wonder if fictional snake women have t---? Normal D&D players Who the f--- starts a conversation like that? I just sat down!

Various Examples


Todd Phillips explaining to Joker This sub already tired of this discussion Me wanting to share my idea that lizard folk could have t--- as a way to store fat for leaner times which form on both genders when they have a steady supply good THIS IS FAVORITE SUBREDDIT r/dndmemes Snake/lizard people shouldn't have boobs! Memes about Lizardfolk with boobies Memes about Snakefolk with two d---- This Sub: Talking about Snake Tiddies and showing Pictures of them you people disgust me Anyone: "Snake people with snitties are sexualised." Snake people without snitties: Top of the plate curVgda9Éwards asif made for covering fits Waist n$uceably ihinher Than chest an hip,ynåking a curve very specifie to human females.v That' f,herejis lite EE 10:19 Actually, this has got me thinking. According to one evolutionary theory, one of the reasons that humans have such a long childhood and adolescence is because that is the price we pay for our complex brains to develop. One reason why non-mammals

Search Interest

Unavailable.

External References

[1] DnD Beyond – Lizardfolk.

[2] Reddit – Do Lizardfolk have titties

[3] Instagram – Who keeps drawing boobs on all these lizard and bird people?

[4] Reddit – Had to share this, credit to the artist.

[5] Instagram – People get really defensive about comics on mammary-less repitle girls

[6] Reddit – Deal with it pleb

[7] Reddit – I offer a compromise to the tiddy debate

[8] Reddit – And don't get me started on centaurs

[9] Reddit – Don't ogle the eggs [oc]

[10] Reddit – r/dndmemes debate whether its right or wrong to draw lizard-people with breasts.

[11] Reddit – bUT fAnTaSY iS SuPPoSeD tO Be uNrEaLiSTiC

[12] Reddit – What kind of crossover is this?

[13] Reddit – The state of this sub….

[14] Reddit – I Guess I'll Put My Two CP into the Debate.

[15] Reddit – Tiddygate 2021: Why is everyone talking about lizard boobs!?

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The only correct answer is "if your GM is fine with it, do what you want".

Let them have hulking tits on their lizardfolk, let them have huge thighs on their shortstack kobolds, so long as it doesn't turn into ERP when the GM doesn't want that for the game. It ain't hurting anybody.

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