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![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Rvoma A-Support Conversation The first few lines had a reference to通せんぼor toasenbo, which is like King of the Hill (the game) or a barrier you put in your house to stop animals or children from reaching re This conversation suffers of the same problems like the C and B conversations. References to them being family are removed, replaced either with nothing or their own made up narrative. A lot of sentiment is lost in t localization. Instead of ending this conversation amicably like in the original, they just make them stand in front of each other in defiance. #Torrenta!Downpour riginal Translation With altered content NOA Version in blue [アクア]そこにいるのは·リョウマ?どうしたの? | Aqua: Ryouma is that you? What's wrong? | Azura: Goodness, Ryoma! You're blocking the whole hallway! May I get by? [アクア]うふふ。まるで私の行く先を 通せんぼしてるみたいよ。 Aqua: Ahaha. It's almost like you're playing gate keeper and refusing to let me through! そこを、どいてくれないかしら? 50 ass [リョウマ]いや、どかない。 今日こそは話を最後まで聞いてもらう。 Ryoma: Nope, I'm not letting you go. You'reRyoma: No! I'm not moving-at least, not going to listen to my side of the story. All until you hear me out. Azura: What do you mean? [リョウマ]俺が家族として、 そに兄妹とに距離を縮めようと声をかけると、 Ryoma: Every time I try to talk to you, to try bridge the gap between us as family, as Ryoma: I've been trying to talk to you all week, and every time I approach you, you run a お前はいつも逃げるように去っていってしまうー ! You always leave like you're trying to run | I'm sorry to corner you like this, but please, Azura, you have to listen! away from me だから今日は話を聞いてもらうまでは、 ここを通すわけにはいかない。 I can't let you pass until you hear what I have to say to you today. [アクア]だからその愛情は私じゃなく カムイに向けてと Aqua: I thought I told you to direct your attention to Kamui, not me Azura: I told you not to waste your time on me. You've found Corrin. [リョウマ]いや、違うんだ! No, e got it all vw always been your own person Ryoma: You may be here because Corrin was kidnapped, but you're not a replacement. [リョウマお前は勘違いしている。 Ryoma: You've been misunderstanding me. Ryoma:If you'll give me a chance, I'd like to be close with Corrin and you. 俺はお前のことを、カムイの 代わりだと思って扱ってきたわけじゃない。 I never meant to treat you as a substitute sibling お前が.777がアクアだから、 兄妹になりたいと思ったんだ。 You... it's because of who you are that I wanted to be closer as brother and sister (79T1リ39 Aqua [リョウマ]確かにお前と血の繋がりなどないし、I Ryoma: Yeah, okay, you and I aren't related お前が白夜に来たのだって… by blood and yeah, okay, the very reason you came to Hoshido 皮肉だが、カムイが 連れ去られたからだという理由に他ならない was cally for no ! than because Kamui was abducted だが俺はお前のことをヒノカやサクラと同様、 本当の妹だと思ってきたんだぞ? I Ryoma: but I've always thought of you the same as Hinoka and Sakura, as a.. [アクア]それは カムイの代わりではないと? | Aqua: And not just as Kamui's [リョウマ]ああ、何度も言わせるな。 Ryoma: Of course. Don't make me repeat Ryoma: Please, Azura. Don't make me say it アクアがアクアだからこそ、 俺はお前と大事な妹として守りたいんだ re ! else, that I feel like you're my precious little sister and I want to see you safe and happy. Aqua: Ryouma... thank you. And I'm sorry for the way I've been treating you そしてこれまでごめんなさい… 私の勝手な勘違いで、あなたに対して とても失礼な想いを抱いていたのね… I've been operating under a selfish delusion and I've thought of you in quite a boorish [リョウマ]いや いいさ。俺はお前の兄だ。 |Ryoma: Nah we're good. I'm your brother, 妹のちょっとした勘違いぐらいで、 腹を立てたりはしないさ。 small ing with my little sister, [アクカリョウマ…ありがとう ほんとに··· Aqua: Ryouma thanks I mean it 私…その言葉が聞けて 良かった" Aqua:l .. it's a relief to be able to hear you Azura:Oh. I'm so relieved! I'm afraid I've grown pretty attached to all of you. [リョウマ]感謝もしなくていい。 俺は兄として当たり前のことをしただけだ All I've done is what any brother should do. Ryoma: Except, from now own, I wish you'd that's the responsibility of a little sister? Aqua ただこれからはもっと俺を頼ってくれ。 それがむしろ妹として果たすべき責任なんだぞ? rely on me more. In fact, don't you think Ryoma: Good. I hope you'll lean on us a | little more well, especially me [アクア]ええ わかったわ。 get it でも 兄に頼るのが妹の責任なんて、 なんだかおかしいわねー Aqua responsibility to depend on her big brother, you'll ask for help when you need it. I think you're a little touched in the head me [リョウマははは、おかしくなどないさ。 Ryoma: Ahahaha, it's not so crazy [アクア]ならこれまでの分も… 沢山甘えさせてもらうわね。 Aqua: Well if you say so... then I'm going to Azura: I'm guessing you're going to stand take your word for it and cash in those checks you've promised. there blocking the hallway until I say yes. リョウマ兄さん。 Aqua Ryoma: That wasn't my original plan, but [リョウマ]ああ、任せておけ。 Exce End of A-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/091/199/4c4.png "Azura x Ryoma - A support")
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Azura x Ryoma - A support
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![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo As seen previously, the conversation is completely changed, instead of a confession from Foleo, we have a semi-non- friday Anyway, in the original, Foleo finally expresses his inner issues with how he thinks others see him, the localization misses that, actually, the localization misses any type of characterization, or at least, meaningful characterization. Soleil taks about her own preferences in romance and also shows a more embarrassed side which is usually absent from the really socially free Soleil. The localization talks about a bottle of shampoo. Oh and, it finally shows what they wanted to make Foleo become. If you've seen C, B and A, you'd know Foleo has some issues with his apperance in the original, the localization takes that out. Let that sink ih. If you want to see all the other documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Forrest: Hello, Soleil. Im sorry again about the hair debacle! You've looked so down ever since! I can make it up to you. I'd be happy to sew you like mine? Would that cheer you up? Soleil: That's really sweet of you, Forrest, but I that frown upside down," but sometimes that's Soleil:What's up with you, Foleo? YOU calling MY name. Will wonders never cease. don't think a cape will help. I always say,"Tun フォレオから声をかけてくれるなんて hard to do about you Do girls? har. I don't know ソレイユは 女の子が好きなんですよね? あはは 今更そんなことを聞くの? Soleil: Ahaha. You have to ask? Of course! I love cute girls! Soleil: Oh, that's not it! I'm bummed because you wont curls and I are hopeless! あたしは可愛い女の子が大好きだよ! 男の子じゃダメなんですか? Foleo: So you're not interested in boys? I mean Forrest: Why would you say that? There are other Soleil: I wouldnt say I'm not interested in them Soleil: Really? I thought someone super-cute like I mean, look there's no grace with guys, right? we could do besides har! [ソレイユ] 女の子の方が断然好きだよ。 だから、見てても盛り上がらないんだよね you would have tons of friends already So I don't get worked up when I look at them. Forrest: I have friends, but I've always got room やっぱりそうなんですか… Soleil: But I ove you My heart really gets going when I look at you and I just want to squeeze you ch so tight! Soleil: And what if I don't want to be your friend? でも、フォレオのことは好きだよ。 見ててきゅんき ゃんするし Foleo: Realy? You really think that of me? Forrest: Oh! well, in that case, I t be on my 本当にそう思ってくれているのですか? 僕は男なのにこんな見た目で… 気持ち悪いと思ったことはないんですか? boy, but I look lke this? Soleil: How could I ever think such a thing!! Soleil: No! Wait! I didn't mean it lke that. What if I want to be MORE than your friend? フォレオはとっても素敵だもん。 Why would I chase you around so much if you フォレオを悪く言う奴がいたら picking on you, I'1l give em what If for with my ソレイユ If that's true . then would you consider a それな 僕とお付き合いしてくれませんか? Soleil: You know that I have a thing for super cute girls, right? all? I love you. Forrest: Right..but you know that Im.. 僕はソレイユのことが好きなんです。 フォ· フォレオがあたしを好き! ? Soleil: Y-you love me? ご迷惑だったでしょうか? Forrest: Well, Soleil, I think youre pretty adorable ま、 まさかそんな No no Solell: Really? フォレオみたいな可愛い子に告白されて あたし、天にも昇るような気分で Forrest: Yes! You have so much energy. When you show up, you light up the whole room. I don't even mind all of the hair pulling and the Foleo: Soleil! Soleil: Wait a minute! You said I could borrow it 僕は真剣なんです 真剣に返事をして下さい Forrest: Im teasing! In fact, I have a gift for you I got you your very own bottle. ser Soleil: Youre right sorry. But, I ..just dont Soleil: What?! For me? You mean, I can smell like でも、あたし…わかんないよ あたしフォレオに好かれるようなこと I haven't done anything to make you love me いつも追いかけ回してただけなのに らですよ ソレイユは僕が男とか女とか Without worrying about whether I'm a boy ora too, you know girl You said you んな女性は他にはいません。 僕は あなたが好きなんです… There's no other lady lke that around. That's I love you. Soleil: Aww... Thanks, Forrest! You really know a girt feel special 返事を聞かせてください。 ソレイユ Soleil: D-Don't be so mean, Foleo Im the one [BLANK] |いつもはあたしか。説く方だったのに I love you too as a woman loves a man. フォレオが好きだよ 一人の男性として [フォレオ]本当ですか! Foleo: Realy? Soleil... that makes my day! れで僕たちは恋人同士ですね! [ソレイユ ちょっと…扌包きしめないでよフォレオ. Soleil: Aiie! Wait don't hug me, Foleo! どうしてですか? Foleo: Why? Youte always hugging me. Soleil: Being hugged is different from hugging! [BLANK] するのとされるのじゃ違うんだよ! Foleo: Well that's because youfe so cute and I [フォレオ]ソレイユが可愛いのがいけないんで すよ。それに, 自分の気持ちに嘘をつく方が 恥ずかしい ソレイユ言ってませんでしたっけ? Also, lying about what you feel is more embarrassing Isnt that you said, Solell? me レイユ]フォレオのいじわる Foleo: Ehehe. You can handle a little teasing. It's not as if I'm trying to embarrass you in front of BLANK] everyone. Im going to treasure you from now [フォレオ]うふふ·いじわるでいいですよ◇ 恥さらしにはなりたくありませんから。 今まで追いかけ回された分…これからは 僕があなたを可愛がっちゃいますからね。 逃がしませんよ. 僕の可愛いソレイユ。 as you used to chase me around. I wont let you get away, my cute little [ソレイユ] なんか Soleil: Oooh I dont know about this](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/169/eb8.png "Soleil x Foleo S support")
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![fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma B-Support Conversation umma The lines are completely rewritten, some weren't present in the original in any way. The same issue remains with removal of anything related to them being a family (e.g. even the soldiers are part of this "family" even if they're not blood related camaraderie is taken out of the localization). The dynamic of the conversation Mchanges but not in a meaningful way, the swapping of lines and the rewrites are the main problem, in the original, they talked about their feelings more and their bonds were stronger. #Torrentia!Downpour Origin Translation With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Ryona: Aqua, do you have the tine for a bit of a Ryo a: Hello, Azura. Do you have a minute? [リョウマ]アクア少しいいか? アクア]リョウ ne Azura: Yes. Actually, I ve been Looking for you. Ryoma: No, I don't you the ather day? remenber that thing I told Ryo a: Ch? You took our conversation to heart? So can I help you wit お前に言ったことがあっただろう? 仲間として、そして家族として、 Ryoma: When I was talking about relyingon me a bit more, not just as a fellow ally, but as a member of the family? もう少し俺を頼ってほしいと。 (79T]え、ええ… [リョウマ]実はその事について、 Azura: Nothing! I just heard that you've beon talking about me behind my back Ryoma: well actually about that, I went and talked to some of the soldiers about it. Ryoma: Did you? Uh...well, that was a bit of a misunderstanding 軍の者達に相談をしてみたんだ。 Everyone started pitching their best advice to me like we were 皆親身になつて相談に乗ってくれた。 Azura : Was it리 Are you saying that you weren't talking about me? ideas to bridge thing tar out, they alding think of any miracle But even after 11, I *S talking about you, but not 俺がお前との距離を縮められるような妙策は we gap between you and .. 結局聞き出すことはできなかった… アクア]リョウ [リョウマ]すまない… [アクア]いいのよ、リョウマ別に気にしなくて。 Ryoma: The truth is, I as asking our friends for ant us to be closer Aqua: No, that's quite all right, Ryoma really it's not gyou fellou soldiers might have sone suggestions on 1いや、しかし… didn Azura: Ch, ny. I'n such a hard time Ryoma: Well you say that, but... [アクア]それにそんな話を当人の私にするなんて! その裏表のない一本気なところが、 リョウマ…あなたらしいわね。 [リョウマ]あ! ああ…確かに本人に 言うようなことじゃないな。すまない。 (777]それよりリョウマ… 私からお願いがあるの。 [リョウマ]な、なんだ!何でも言ってくれ! [アクア]私への優しさはもういいの。 無理に私を妹だと思わなくてもいいから… 私の代わりに、カムイを気遣ってあげて Aqua: And telling the object or your pleas for advice all about it .. Ryouma, that's just like you, you've no guile in your straight and pure Ryoaa: h, right non that you nention it, I probably shouldn't have been tolling you all that. sorry Ryoma: "sigh That's al right. 1 should've come to you instead. P Azura: There's no need to apoloeize, You can make it up to me by do ing n favor actually have a reques Ryoma: Y-you do? You have only to say it and I'11 el Anything you es fuss over me? Avatar should Aqua Really, I don't need your kindness. You needn't have to make ne feel better by thinking of me be your priority no So instead, think of Kamui Ryoma: what does Avatar have to do with this? Azura: Ever since I arrived in Hoshido, yau treated Aqua : That kind of pure kindness that until now』 you gave ne the lave of a close family member ike 家族としての愛情は 本来私ではなく、 カムイに与えられるべきものでしょう? It was never meant far me, sa don't you think yau should give it to Kanui instead? But e both knoI was never supposed to be here. Avatar is your fanily! [リョウマ]そ、それは ! Ryona: Y-you ve got to be Ryoa: Azura, you're wrongl There's roon enough for both you and avatar [アクア]私はずっと あなたや白夜のきょうだいたち、 それからミコト女王と、 家族としての時間を過ごしてきた。 t have been you and our other iblings Azura: I e aluays been happy hr You and Queen koto made sure of that But no you should focus well this tine as a family koto, all come ins 私はそれで、じゅうぶん幸せだわ。 それよりも 今までできなかった分まで、 カムイを愛してあげてほしいの。 私のことを考えるより、 カムイのことを考えてほしいの。 And I'm happy with Just having that. Moreover... I wish you would give your love to Kamui, even more than you couldn't give to me Instead of thinking of me, I wish you'd think of Kamui 私の願いは、それだけよ。 Aqua: That's my request. That's all it is, really [リョウマ]ま、待ってくれ! アクア。 Ryo: Azura, wait! .. .Hnn. Is this why she's been avoiding me? 今まで俺を避けていたのは Aqua. So that's the reason you've been avolding me all this time..? End of B-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/467/43f.png "Azura x Ryoma - B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma C-Support Conversation ummar There are several removed and altered lines that had to do with their relationship as a family Ryoma is no longer his authoritative self and has tendencies to become aggressive at random parts Azura refuses his help in an almost angry manner, which does not happen in the original, where she simply expresses gratitude. The localization makes her seem rebellious instead of wanting to be helpful and independent. The original also shows a slight tension between the two because the characters are similar in how they see their roles, that of protectors/leaders, which is absent in the localization. One other change is how Ryoma was changed to instead try to force a social interaction instead of trying to help Azura out of selflessness #Torrentia!Downpour With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Translation we Azura: Goodness! These boxes are heavier than ふう。少し休憩しましょ Aqua Phe, should take a little break it's no wonder I'm tired, didn't think there'd ht この量は、さすがに疲れたわ。 [リョウマ]·.777 ?一人で何をしているんだ? | [アクア]リョウマ。い、いえ。別に私は何も [リョウマ]何も、じゃないだろう。 Ryoma Azura? What are you doing carrying all of those weapons by yourself? Aqua ? what are you doing here al alone? Aqua Ryouma. I- I'm not doing anything all that special Azura: It's not a problem Ryoma: Moving around weapons pack by pack? You can't call Blan 武具を幾つも運んでいるじゃないか。 そんな重労働、女一人の力では無理だ。 This kind of heavy work's impossible for one girl. But don't worry about it. Leave it to me Ryoma Blank いいから少し俺によこすんだ。 Blank アクア] Aqua [リョウマ]むつ·意外に重いな。だが Ryoma: Ack! This is surprisingly heavy. But this Ryoma: Here. Let me help with that of these are heavy! Some thing 何てことはない よし、これで半分以上、俺が運んでやる。 Ryoma: I've got it. I'1l get the greater half Aqua, you do those lighter ones Ryoma: Why don't you carry that lighter box over there? アクアはそっちの軽いものを頼む。 [アクア]あ、ありがとう… [リョウマ]それにしても…こんな量、 Aqua T-thanks Azura: Thanks, Ryoma Blank Ryoma: Which makes me wonder... what made you think to transport all this by yourself? なぜ一人で運ぼうと思ったんだ。 for help once なぜ俺達仲間に いや Why not ask us ter ie 俺たち家族に頼ろうとしなかったんだ? Aqua: I simply thought I could move it all by myself [アクア]一人で運べる量だと思ったのよ。 Azura: Blank それに 途中で誰かに助けを求めるのも、 なんとなく言い辛くて。 AquAnd well .. once I've started somethin on my on I tend to be reticent to ask others Azura: I'm sorry. I thi auay You know I hate bothering people or [リョウマ]まったく お前は昔からそうだな。 | Ryoma: For real?.. I suppose you've always been like that. Blan だが、これからそういうことがあれば、 遠慮せず俺を呼べ Ryoma: But from now on, if you find yourself in that kind of situation, I want you to call me Hithout even thinking twice about it Ryoma: It's not a bother! I'd be glad to help you. I'm here for you anytime. Really お前は俺の妹だからな 兄として、必ず助けてやるさ。 Ryoma: Come on, you're my little sister. We're familyl You brother's always going to help you out. an [アクア]リョウマ ありがとう。 Azura: Thanks Ryoma でも、気にしなくて大丈夫よ。 次からは、上手くやってみせるから。 But you don't need to wor Azura: Now about me? Excuse me se Next time, you 'll see that I've got it all done without help Ryoma: Ah! There she goes あいつが俺に遠慮するのは 昔から変わらないな。 Ryoma Azura, wait! だが…そうだな。これを機会にもう少し 親交を深めていけるよう、考えてみるか Ryoma: Always that same hesitation around me, she hasn't changed at all Ryoma: Hmm. I really thought she'd warm up to me one day. I've got to try sonething else End of C-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/460/b9a.png "Azura x Ryoma - C support")
![Charlotte/Xander S-support conversation The removal of lines in the localization, reduces the amount of characterization Charlotte gets during the support orrent ownpour Translat Nintendo of America Ver. content [マークス]よく来たな、 シャ ame Charlotte: This is...a place only the royal family can enter, I shouldn'tCharlott: Of course, Prince Xander. But..isn't this plac 王族しか入ることの reserved for members of the royal family? ですよね [シャーロッテ]感激です ずっと憧れていた場所ですから Charlotte: I'm very moved... This is the place I had always beenCharlotte: I'm deeply moved..'ve always wondered what it was dreaming of. Burt, why. to be here. [マークス]お前さえよければ、 今日から自由に出入りするといい。 Marx: f you'd like, Starting today, you can come and go wheneverXander: l would like for you to be able to come here whenever you wish. But for that to be possible, I must admit my feelings.. -ロッテ]えっ? Marx: What l mean by that is, this. -ロッテ [マークス]結婚指輪だ。 Marx: An engagement ring. ちょっ マークス様? こんなこと言いたくないですけど、 一つだけはっきり言わせてください。 Charlotte: W-wait a minute... ord Marx? 1 don't want to say this, butCharlotte: What are you.. .W-wait a minute...Iknow I'm normally Let me honestly tell you what I think. a ltd.e..silly, but can l say something up front and direct? Xander: Of course [マークス]あ、あぁ [シャーロッテおかしいだろうがよ!! 私の何に惚れたつつーんだよ! バカにしてからかってるだけなら、 そのきれいな顔に拳をめり込ませるわよ!! Charlotte: This is just weird, isn't h?l Just what part of me did youCharlotte: This..is messed up! Are you telling me you've fallen even fall for! If you tell me later that it's just a joke or something,I for me?l Because I'm warning you, I get revenge for jokes made make sure to sink my entre fist into that handsome face of yours!at my expense! ひどいことを言ってしまってすみません。 でも、これは正直どういうつもりなのか 理解に苦しみます。 Charlotte: I'm sorry for saying something so rude. But if what you're Charlotte: But if that isn't the case, then I apologize for my words. saying is the truth, then I must be honest and say that l have troubleI'm just struggling to understand what you're saying. [マークス]-私には常々、結婚願望があった。 しかし、無理だと諦めかけていたのだ。 Marx: .l have always wanted to get married. However, Ithought it Xander: Charlotte, I've felt a strong attraction to you since we was a lost cause for me, and had given up on that dream. Charlotte: A lost cause... in what way? Charlotte: Could it be that you actually prefer men? Is that n? Marx: T-that's not what I meant Narx: l am the first first met l would have said something sooner, but l was hesitant. thought a relationship between us would be too complicated. [シャーロッテ]無理ってどういうことですか? Charlotte: Complicated? How would it be complicated? [シャーロッテ]本当は男性が好きだとか? [マークス]そ、そうではない。 [マークス]第一王子の私と結婚するには 並の女では無理だと思っていたのだ。 しかし、シャーロッテなら大丈夫だ。 お前は器用で策士で情に厚く、 料理ができて、根性があり、腕っぷしが強い。 prince, for me to be wed with an average Xander: I felt that a prince should only be with someone of noble woman, it always seemed like it would be impossible. But if it's withblood. But as l thought about it more, and as l learned more strong, and about you...I realized it wasn't an impossible situation in the ou are どんな苦境でも good at cooking. H you're with me, I'm sure we would be able toleast I'm sure that we can work together to overcome any 一緒に乗り切ることができるだろう。 me any obstacle that came our way hardship. Charlotte: ...Are you really sure about this? would become the Charlotte: You're really tine with this? Wouldn'l ロッテ 本当にいいのですか? 私が暗夜王国の王妃になるんですよ。 ome [マークス]私がそれを望んでいるのだ。 You would. And that's what I would like. d to let my p Charlotte: Th-then... staring tomorrow. Would it be okay f we sent Charlotte: Hel..ls Marx: Of course. Caring about one's family that much is a wonderful | Xander: Hah, of course you send money to them. k's important Charlotte Then, what f opened the window over there, and Charlotte: Xander, l'm so excited for our future! Could you situation has changed a brt..Explaining the increase in how ome 仕送りさせてもらいますよ? send them each month, heehee. [マークス]もちろんだ 親孝行は素晴ら s parents. じゃあ、 そこの出窓から身を乗り出し、 この喜びを思い切り叫びますよ? cried out to the whole kingdom about how happy I am right now? Marx: f you did that. I would watch over you with a smile Charlotte: Your resolve is real, so you were being honest after me ne Just 私はそれを微笑んで眺めよう。 あなたの覚悟はわかりました。 喜んでお受けします。 all. Then. I gladly accept your proposal. Marx: The responsibility of Nohr's future also falls on your sh [マークス]暗夜王国の未来はお前にかかっている。 その働きに期待するぞ ders. You will have a fair amount of work. As my wife, and as the Charlotte: Yes! Just leave it to me! Now then, time for me to yell out では早速窓から叫ばせて クス]存分に叫べ。 あああああああああああ! Charlotte: BOODDYAAAH!! Charlotte: WH00000000000000000!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/089/275/515.png "Marx x Charlotte - Support conversation S")
![ire Emblem Fates - Azura x Leo Support The conversation in the Treehouse version has been changed into a hypothetically speaking" conversation, while in the original, Leon spoke about his own issues, that being his fear of being rejected in a love confession. Aqua in the original believed that he was speaking about another girl, she indirectly confesses at that point but tries to attenuate because she herself fears of not being the target of his feelings by claiming it's a non-romantic love, "I will love you as Mother has loved me". Leon sees through her and proposes The Treehouse version loses the subtlety and nuance #Torrentia!Downpour S-rank Support Conversatiorn Original NOA Localisation Leon: Aqua, will you listen to my troubles? Leo: Azura, I need some advice Aqua: Leon... If you're alright with me, then of course I will listen. Azura: Oh? Leon: The truth is... I'm afraid Leo: Say a man has grown to love a woman, but he's afraid to tell her how he feels. How should he go about proposing? I mean, hypothetically speaking... Aqua: Afraid? What are you afraid of? Azura: Mmm. That is a difficult situation. The deeper his feelings, the greater the risk... If she turns him down, his heart will surely be broken Leon: I'm afraid of being rejected... to the person I will confess to. Leo: Yes. It will Aqua: Leon... also understand that feeling. The want to be accepted is strong... because the pain of being rejected is too hard. he'll be elated Azura: But, then again, if he's really fallen for her and she says yes Leon: I guess that's right.. Leo: Precisely Aqua: However, when you fear being hurt, then you won't be able Azura:I know this is all hypothetical, but I think it's worth the risk to connect with anyone. It'll be okay, Leon. I'm sure you won't be You should go ahead and ask her, Leo rejected Leon: Aqua... Leo: What?! wasn't talking about me! Aqua: If, by chance... you get rejected... I won't reject you... I will Azura: Of course not. I'm just saying, in theory, if it WAS you, she'd love you as Mother has loved me say yes Leon: ..I'm sorry. I might have been a bit unfair Leo: Do you really think so? Aqua: What do you mean? Azura: I'm certain Leon: I love you Leo: Now you've taken all the fun out of it! Aqua: What!? Azura: What?! Leon: I wanted to convey my feelings for you Leo: Does it even count if the girl gives him a response before he asks? Aqua: Leon Azura: Heehee, I was just trying to help. You looked so stressed Leon: Yet earlier... I let you say that you won't reject me. With that, Leo: Do I still have to get down on one knee? my confession has no meaning. Because I feared of rejection... I made a mistake in the process... Aqua: Fufu. That's right. That was a bit sly. In any case, I still won't Azura: Of course you do! I want to hear you ask me properly reject you Leon: Aqua. Leo: As you wish, my love. Azura...will you marry me? Aqua: Sneakily or however else, I want you to say it again... As forAzura: Weren't you paying attention? The girl said yes me, I want to tell you... my feelings, too Leon: I love you, Aqua. I want you to marry me Leo: You are so frustrating. I can't wait to spend my life with you Aqua: ...Yes. Please take care of me [BLANK] End of Support Conversation S](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/088/492/652.png "Aqua x Leon support conversation S")
![FIRE EMBLEM FATES: ELFI &HAROLD SUPPORTS Summary Removed dialogue including references to being Elise's childhood friend (breaks continuity). alterations to character motives and personalities, exaggeration of Harold's hero personality and exaggeration of the Effie's features (strength) making her more into a butch type of character instead of the original strong but soft spoken character #Torrential Downpour Nintendo of America Arthur: Greetings, Effie! Can you spare a moment to discuss something of dire importance? Harold: Elfie-kun, do you have a moment? Elfie: What's the matter Harold. Did something happen to Effie: Arthur? What's going on? Is Lad e OK out something I both serve Elise-sama. Just like you, I wish to protect But what I say next may s e-sama from the bottom of e: Effie: Well, what are you waiting for?! Arthur: Effie, I believe we need to have a chat. Effie: We are having a chat right now! Now will you hurry up and BLANK] [BLANK] Harold: Yes. You feelings towards protecting Elise-sama are outstanding. You andI, are both people who believe that we should Elise-guarding duties. I see your dedication to her in every aspect act for the people. However when it comes to Elise-sama you suddenly.... exhibit powers from another dimension What is your secret to it? get to the point? Arthur: Certainly. Effie, I believe that I am falling behind in my of your life, and I am envious. Please, I must know your secret! Effie: There's no secret. But what you said about my dedication is accurate. I'm more than just her retainer. I'm her best friend Everything I do is for her. But that doesn't mean you should feel bad. You're her Elfie: Ummmmm.... hero, you know? Harold: The fighting is getting more intense by the day. The need to Arthur: It warms my ears to hear such praise, but I fear it is not protect Elise-sama has also shot sky high. If you have a secret to it enough. Our battles grow fiercer by the day! I must know the would like to receive some indeed between me Effie: Oh! Well, my strength comes from my training. You're welcome to join me for a workout or a sparring session anytime. ise-sama we have before that Elise-sama and I are childhood friends. That is why there is no surprise that your relationship with Elise-sama is iffe is that so Arthur: Fantastic! I look forward to battling to the death- [BLANK] [BLANK] Effie: WHAT? ea er mmon expression? Oh ho! My mistake End of C-Support FIRE EMBLEM FATES: ELFI & HAROLD SUPPORTS Summary A negative view of Harold's hero-like personality has been altered, instead we have it put in a positive light, taking away character depth, this also breaks continuity since her questioning his Hero of Justice ideology is relevant to the A discussion. #Torrentia!Downpour Nintendo of America Elfie: Harold. About the talk we had last time.... The differences between you andthere was one more. I'm not as fickle as you.realized the reason you feel you're not doing enough for Lady Effie: Arthur, I've been thinking about our talk the other day. And I Elise... is because you're always doing so much for everyone else You're far more generous than I. Arthur: Generous? Oh ho ho! Yes, yes, I suppose I'm reasonably generous. But not any more than you! Harold: ..Fickle? Elfie: When people are in trouble you run this way and that... You Effie: Are you kidding? You're always putting other people before go out of your way to rescue people that have nothing to do with me you see someone in trou Me? I'd snatch a cup of water from a guy who was on matter what happens I will defend her. Expanding on that, I will fire if Lady Elise were thirsty rescue those that are related to Elise-sama. That is as much as I will do. Always thinking about Elise-sama, only doing things for ng a ng ise-sama...that might be the difference betweern also very important to me. Arthur: Oh ho! Remind me ren I search desperately for thei g the warm months! But ser your point le with tired legs f nd too much time helping old ladies cross the rve as those legs they ear arguing, I must go between until they laugh... them and turn both fists into handshakes. I am that Elfie re tine as you are aren't you like yo justice, no matter what. A hero who always takes the little guy's side, even at his own expense. Arthur: Well...thank you, Effie! This conversation has been resolve this minor identity Harold: Thank you, Elfie-kun. Thanks to you I truly understand myself. This conversation today shall be a point of reference in the tremendously illuminating. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to ro essert some snu BLANK] End of B-Support](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/087/573/920.png "Harold x Elfie - C to B support")
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Fire Emblem Fates Localization Controversy - Azura x Ryoma - A support
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![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Rvoma A-Support Conversation The first few lines had a reference to通せんぼor toasenbo, which is like King of the Hill (the game) or a barrier you put in your house to stop animals or children from reaching re This conversation suffers of the same problems like the C and B conversations. References to them being family are removed, replaced either with nothing or their own made up narrative. A lot of sentiment is lost in t localization. Instead of ending this conversation amicably like in the original, they just make them stand in front of each other in defiance. #Torrenta!Downpour riginal Translation With altered content NOA Version in blue [アクア]そこにいるのは·リョウマ?どうしたの? | Aqua: Ryouma is that you? What's wrong? | Azura: Goodness, Ryoma! You're blocking the whole hallway! May I get by? [アクア]うふふ。まるで私の行く先を 通せんぼしてるみたいよ。 Aqua: Ahaha. It's almost like you're playing gate keeper and refusing to let me through! そこを、どいてくれないかしら? 50 ass [リョウマ]いや、どかない。 今日こそは話を最後まで聞いてもらう。 Ryoma: Nope, I'm not letting you go. You'reRyoma: No! I'm not moving-at least, not going to listen to my side of the story. All until you hear me out. Azura: What do you mean? [リョウマ]俺が家族として、 そに兄妹とに距離を縮めようと声をかけると、 Ryoma: Every time I try to talk to you, to try bridge the gap between us as family, as Ryoma: I've been trying to talk to you all week, and every time I approach you, you run a お前はいつも逃げるように去っていってしまうー ! You always leave like you're trying to run | I'm sorry to corner you like this, but please, Azura, you have to listen! away from me だから今日は話を聞いてもらうまでは、 ここを通すわけにはいかない。 I can't let you pass until you hear what I have to say to you today. [アクア]だからその愛情は私じゃなく カムイに向けてと Aqua: I thought I told you to direct your attention to Kamui, not me Azura: I told you not to waste your time on me. You've found Corrin. [リョウマ]いや、違うんだ! No, e got it all vw always been your own person Ryoma: You may be here because Corrin was kidnapped, but you're not a replacement. [リョウマお前は勘違いしている。 Ryoma: You've been misunderstanding me. Ryoma:If you'll give me a chance, I'd like to be close with Corrin and you. 俺はお前のことを、カムイの 代わりだと思って扱ってきたわけじゃない。 I never meant to treat you as a substitute sibling お前が.777がアクアだから、 兄妹になりたいと思ったんだ。 You... it's because of who you are that I wanted to be closer as brother and sister (79T1リ39 Aqua [リョウマ]確かにお前と血の繋がりなどないし、I Ryoma: Yeah, okay, you and I aren't related お前が白夜に来たのだって… by blood and yeah, okay, the very reason you came to Hoshido 皮肉だが、カムイが 連れ去られたからだという理由に他ならない was cally for no ! than because Kamui was abducted だが俺はお前のことをヒノカやサクラと同様、 本当の妹だと思ってきたんだぞ? I Ryoma: but I've always thought of you the same as Hinoka and Sakura, as a.. [アクア]それは カムイの代わりではないと? | Aqua: And not just as Kamui's [リョウマ]ああ、何度も言わせるな。 Ryoma: Of course. Don't make me repeat Ryoma: Please, Azura. Don't make me say it アクアがアクアだからこそ、 俺はお前と大事な妹として守りたいんだ re ! else, that I feel like you're my precious little sister and I want to see you safe and happy. Aqua: Ryouma... thank you. And I'm sorry for the way I've been treating you そしてこれまでごめんなさい… 私の勝手な勘違いで、あなたに対して とても失礼な想いを抱いていたのね… I've been operating under a selfish delusion and I've thought of you in quite a boorish [リョウマ]いや いいさ。俺はお前の兄だ。 |Ryoma: Nah we're good. I'm your brother, 妹のちょっとした勘違いぐらいで、 腹を立てたりはしないさ。 small ing with my little sister, [アクカリョウマ…ありがとう ほんとに··· Aqua: Ryouma thanks I mean it 私…その言葉が聞けて 良かった" Aqua:l .. it's a relief to be able to hear you Azura:Oh. I'm so relieved! I'm afraid I've grown pretty attached to all of you. [リョウマ]感謝もしなくていい。 俺は兄として当たり前のことをしただけだ All I've done is what any brother should do. Ryoma: Except, from now own, I wish you'd that's the responsibility of a little sister? Aqua ただこれからはもっと俺を頼ってくれ。 それがむしろ妹として果たすべき責任なんだぞ? rely on me more. In fact, don't you think Ryoma: Good. I hope you'll lean on us a | little more well, especially me [アクア]ええ わかったわ。 get it でも 兄に頼るのが妹の責任なんて、 なんだかおかしいわねー Aqua responsibility to depend on her big brother, you'll ask for help when you need it. I think you're a little touched in the head me [リョウマははは、おかしくなどないさ。 Ryoma: Ahahaha, it's not so crazy [アクア]ならこれまでの分も… 沢山甘えさせてもらうわね。 Aqua: Well if you say so... then I'm going to Azura: I'm guessing you're going to stand take your word for it and cash in those checks you've promised. there blocking the hallway until I say yes. リョウマ兄さん。 Aqua Ryoma: That wasn't my original plan, but [リョウマ]ああ、任せておけ。 Exce End of A-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/091/199/4c4.png "Azura x Ryoma - A support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Nishiki X Aqua The first thing to mention is how the localizers have made a mistake in their translation. They translate原っぱ("harappa" or "open field") to葉っぱ(happa" or "leaves"). Which is why Kaden/ Nishiki rolls around in leaves rather than in an open, grassy field which by definition tends to have no leaves As explained in the C conversation, the identity of the fox and their magic depends on their tails (catching their tail is also a way to de-mask them, which is present in the folklore), so Aqua getting entranced is part of the legend of the "kitsune". This can be framed as a "cultural change", but the dialogue is too descriptive for people in the west to not understand. This again, is completely missing, and was the main theme during the whole conversations Aqua/Azura seems to guilt trip herself in the localization for touching Kaden/Nishiki's fur without permission, while in the original, that type of implication is not present. It's probably because of the missing reason for why she was doing such a thing, that being, her inability to stop because of the magical powers of the tail #Torrentia!Downpour B Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Nishiki: U-urm na What's this? how did I get here again? Oh, yeah! I wandered through this field when I decided to roll around Why have I been sleeping in an open field? Ah! That's right! I'd been rolling around in this in the leaves! They felt SO good. I curled up and omfy, grassy grove, and then I must have fallen asleep Sheesh. always told I've got no sense of the danger of あれ went to sleep. Ha! No wonder people call me lazy! ...Huh? What's that?! I think something's んな野原で寝ているんだろう? it's because of times like this that I'm touching my head! ACK! 原っぱが気持ち良くてゴロゴロしていたら、 そのまま眠ってしまったのか はぁ…こんなんだから、緊張感が無いと 言われてしまうんだろうね Hm? Why do I all of a sudden feel like my tail なんだか、しっぽに触られてる感触が… うわああああ--っ!!! [アクア] What's going on? Azura: Oh, my! Are you awake?! Nishiki: A-Aqua, is that you? Why on Earth are Kaden: Azura? Is that you?! What are you ア、アクアじゃないか!! どうしてこんなところに!? Ol あら、 もう朝なの? Azura: Goodness. This is awkward good morrni Nishiki: This is no time for good mornings! Mind telling why YOU are sleeping with MY tail petting me ar ? And why are どうしてキミはボクのしっぽを 抱き枕代わりに寝てるのさ r hugga Azura: ..Er, I was walking through this field 私…その 自分の意識とは関係なく 身体が勝手に反応して近寄ってしまうの well... it happens without me even noticing, when I saw you over here taking a nap. Ever my body just moves of its own accord to get since the other day, I've been wondering what close to it your fur felt like. This is so embarrassing, butI didn't think you'd wake up! I just barely brushed ou Nishiki: Uh... what? ra: あなたの しっぽに。 Nishiki: Toward my... tail? oh! Ahahahahaha! Of course, now I understand here. I'd be honored to have you stroke my fur what was going, it was that all along, wasn't it? I had no idea you were into foxes! Don't mind, don't mind. The honor is all mine! あ! あははは ! なるほど、そういうことだったのか!! いやいや、光栄だなー! それほどまでにボクのしっぽが 魅力的だったということだもんね! y tail wasj wondrous and bewitching! Aqua: I don't want to admit it, but .. yes ra: Nishiki: So that's why, the other day when you Kaden: Is that why you left so abruptly the other pretended y chasing after me, weren't you? were lost, you were actually ay Aqua: Y-yes, I admit it I just want to touch it, Azura: I'm afraid so. I didn't think I could resist ちょっと 触ってみたくって giving you a little scratch behind the ears! Nishiki: And then today while I was slumbering Kaden: Azura, I'm shocked! away, you were entranced by my tail, And in the それで今日うたた寝してるボクの caressing it, you f Il asleep, huh? ua w you had it in you! ア Aqua: I can't help it .. there's nothing I can do Azura: So am I. I had this overwhelming desire やメ to reach out and touch that silky-soft fur 自分でもどうしようもないんだから Nishiki: Well if that's the case, then youre free Kaden: Well, go to touch it whenever you want to! Look, look! How about a touch? いつでも触っておくれよ! Aqua: Oooh.. don't tempt me so much, please! [BLANK] Ahhh I can't stop thinking about it... it's so cute and fluffy 目の前でフラフラさせないでちょう て仕方な Nishiki: Look deep into my eyes, watch it swing [BLANK] baaac 揺れてますよ Nishiki: Hahaha, no worries BLANK ははは、すまなかったね 角虯たくなったらいつでも触りに来ておく 別に減るものではないからね。 ver you fee petting it, come and do | so, anytime. It's not like it's going to fade away ou Azura: Thanks for being so understanding Nishiki: No problem! Well, I've got to get going. | Kaden: Are you kidding?! This is awesome! hope you visit me all the time now ではボクはそろそろ行くよ。 [ア Aqua: Wait! If you go first, I'm going to want to Azura: Really? I'd love that. chase after · 待って!あなたが先に去ってしまうと 後ろ姿を追いかけたくなるから… you, so... Nishiki: Ahahaha, well then ladies first! あはは](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/094/830/2c1.png "Aqua x Nishiki B support conversation")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna Here it's more apparent why the cut line in the C conversation takes away a lot of meaning behind their discussion of their previous home, there's also an odd insertion of "Odin" in this conversation this just confuses the reader more because of the lack of mention of their "previous home". Selena continues to suffer from having her character being exaggerated and putting Lazwald down some more. The original Selena is still giving him more space to breathe instead Lazwald is also no longer portrayed as being oblivious and lacking self-awareness, but as an #Torrential Downpour origi Translation Nintendo of America Ver. ズワルド : What do you want, Luna: Lazwald Lazwald: You totally got me the last time I thought I was going to die to fromm ラズワルド [ラズワルド] aslow: Oh, thank goodness! Youre back to もう この前は参ったよ。 あんなに見つめられて 恥ずかしくて死ぬかと思っちゃつた。 your old grumpy self. I was worried you were going to give me the flirty treatment again. I don't think I've ever been so mortified in my life embarrassment if you stared at me like that any Selena: Oh, yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have gone quite so far. You're not THAT bad... I just wanted you to know what it's like. I'm sorry Luna: Y-yeah well about that .. I'm sorry got this downtrodden look Laslow: Eh? Did you just...apologize? Without ou me It's not like you to just me WI ekly apologize some water ナが素直に謝るなんて are you coming 熱でもあるの? Luna: What! How rude! Ive no fever! It's just maybe I've been thinking about old Selena: What? No, I don't have a fever! I was just thinking about...old times はあ!? 失礼ね! 熱なんかないわよ!! 昔のことを思い出してたっていうか [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I guess remembering the world e slow: Ah.I see. Feeling lonely, then? I get came from has put you in a somber mood? that way too. It's hard being so far from home 元の世界を思い出して 寂しくなっちゃつた感じなのかな? Luna: I-I'm not in a somber mood! But now that Selena: I'm not lonely! But...yeah. I miss it.I you mention our world … It's been such a long time since our rightful あ、あたしは寂しくなんかないわ! 元の世界って言 あたしたちの本当の居場所なんて とっくの昔に無くなっちゃつた it now. No point in whining lace, if you can call it that, was taken from us There's no point in bringing it up now. I'm だから今さら何とも思わないわ。 fine it doesn't bother me at all Laslow: Selena... I won't tell you youre wrong We both know we can't go back. Not yet. But...I I guess if you think about it, we've come a longthink about it every day. What if everything went wa まぁ、 考えてみれば もんね 僕もたまに思い出すん 僕たちの生まれた世界のこと No matter how much we fight here, were never もう取り戻せないの( 今でもやっぱり、考えちゃうんだよね。 now, I1l think of it. About how great it Luna: Lazwald [ラズワルド] なんてね とにかく僕が言いたかったのは… ルーナが寂しくなる気持ちは 僕にもわかるなーってこと! Lazwald: Dont look at me like that. Look, what I Laslow: I guess...what I mean to say is, I know want to say is I understand how you feel when you get that loneliness you're feeling too well. I feel it Selena: I already told you! I'm not feeling lonely! あたしは別に寂しくなんてないわ! [ラズワルド1,- Laslow: Haha. Sorry, sorry! My mistake wa あはは ごめんごめん a Selena: Well, er, I mean...maybe there are times I feel a little lonely, now and then, but. Luna: C-certainly there are times when I feel little tiny bit homesick, but Lazwald: But what? Luna: I guess youre here with me ほんの少しだけ寂しくなるときもあるけど [ラズワルド] あるけど? maybe Selena: Well, I have you, at least. And Odin. So completely 孤独って感じではないかも Lazwald: That's the spirit. I'll stick with you は僕がついてるよ。 come on, put on your usual smile! Smile! Luna: W-whenever Im with you, I'm more likely Selena: True...though I'm not sure how cheery I あ、あんたと一緒にいるときは 笑ってるより怒ってることの方が多いわよ! to be enraged than smiling! Lazwald: Ahaha! It has always been that wa Hey, if it's worth anything to you, I1l always be Ill be by your side anytime you need me Luna: D-dont get the wrong idea! It's just my should be if you're my only link to home Laslow: Haha! Now that's the Selena we all know and love! Well, either way, I want you to know まぁ、僕でよければ いつでもルーナの側にいてあげるからね。 otten luck that fate has saddled me with you! had any choice in the matter あんたとはただの腐れ縁なんだから! e with fate, but it has you need something, you can confide in me a way of surprising us mere mortals. Particularly 腐れ縁でも縁は縁だよ。 つでも言って。 when it comes to matters of the heart. Luna: H-hmph! The way you get all pumped up Selena: Are you really flirting with me at a time ou But... yeah thanks. You cheered me up just a little bit. that's my lot in life, eh? Thank you, Laslow. For ちょっとだけ 元気出たわ。 Lazwald: Cool, no problem どういたしまして。](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/097/429/e63.png "Lazwald x Selena A support")
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