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![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo As seen previously, the conversation is completely changed, instead of a confession from Foleo, we have a semi-non- friday Anyway, in the original, Foleo finally expresses his inner issues with how he thinks others see him, the localization misses that, actually, the localization misses any type of characterization, or at least, meaningful characterization. Soleil taks about her own preferences in romance and also shows a more embarrassed side which is usually absent from the really socially free Soleil. The localization talks about a bottle of shampoo. Oh and, it finally shows what they wanted to make Foleo become. If you've seen C, B and A, you'd know Foleo has some issues with his apperance in the original, the localization takes that out. Let that sink ih. If you want to see all the other documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Forrest: Hello, Soleil. Im sorry again about the hair debacle! You've looked so down ever since! I can make it up to you. I'd be happy to sew you like mine? Would that cheer you up? Soleil: That's really sweet of you, Forrest, but I that frown upside down," but sometimes that's Soleil:What's up with you, Foleo? YOU calling MY name. Will wonders never cease. don't think a cape will help. I always say,"Tun フォレオから声をかけてくれるなんて hard to do about you Do girls? har. I don't know ソレイユは 女の子が好きなんですよね? あはは 今更そんなことを聞くの? Soleil: Ahaha. You have to ask? Of course! I love cute girls! Soleil: Oh, that's not it! I'm bummed because you wont curls and I are hopeless! あたしは可愛い女の子が大好きだよ! 男の子じゃダメなんですか? Foleo: So you're not interested in boys? I mean Forrest: Why would you say that? There are other Soleil: I wouldnt say I'm not interested in them Soleil: Really? I thought someone super-cute like I mean, look there's no grace with guys, right? we could do besides har! [ソレイユ] 女の子の方が断然好きだよ。 だから、見てても盛り上がらないんだよね you would have tons of friends already So I don't get worked up when I look at them. Forrest: I have friends, but I've always got room やっぱりそうなんですか… Soleil: But I ove you My heart really gets going when I look at you and I just want to squeeze you ch so tight! Soleil: And what if I don't want to be your friend? でも、フォレオのことは好きだよ。 見ててきゅんき ゃんするし Foleo: Realy? You really think that of me? Forrest: Oh! well, in that case, I t be on my 本当にそう思ってくれているのですか? 僕は男なのにこんな見た目で… 気持ち悪いと思ったことはないんですか? boy, but I look lke this? Soleil: How could I ever think such a thing!! Soleil: No! Wait! I didn't mean it lke that. What if I want to be MORE than your friend? フォレオはとっても素敵だもん。 Why would I chase you around so much if you フォレオを悪く言う奴がいたら picking on you, I'1l give em what If for with my ソレイユ If that's true . then would you consider a それな 僕とお付き合いしてくれませんか? Soleil: You know that I have a thing for super cute girls, right? all? I love you. Forrest: Right..but you know that Im.. 僕はソレイユのことが好きなんです。 フォ· フォレオがあたしを好き! ? Soleil: Y-you love me? ご迷惑だったでしょうか? Forrest: Well, Soleil, I think youre pretty adorable ま、 まさかそんな No no Solell: Really? フォレオみたいな可愛い子に告白されて あたし、天にも昇るような気分で Forrest: Yes! You have so much energy. When you show up, you light up the whole room. I don't even mind all of the hair pulling and the Foleo: Soleil! Soleil: Wait a minute! You said I could borrow it 僕は真剣なんです 真剣に返事をして下さい Forrest: Im teasing! In fact, I have a gift for you I got you your very own bottle. ser Soleil: Youre right sorry. But, I ..just dont Soleil: What?! For me? You mean, I can smell like でも、あたし…わかんないよ あたしフォレオに好かれるようなこと I haven't done anything to make you love me いつも追いかけ回してただけなのに らですよ ソレイユは僕が男とか女とか Without worrying about whether I'm a boy ora too, you know girl You said you んな女性は他にはいません。 僕は あなたが好きなんです… There's no other lady lke that around. That's I love you. Soleil: Aww... Thanks, Forrest! You really know a girt feel special 返事を聞かせてください。 ソレイユ Soleil: D-Don't be so mean, Foleo Im the one [BLANK] |いつもはあたしか。説く方だったのに I love you too as a woman loves a man. フォレオが好きだよ 一人の男性として [フォレオ]本当ですか! Foleo: Realy? Soleil... that makes my day! れで僕たちは恋人同士ですね! [ソレイユ ちょっと…扌包きしめないでよフォレオ. Soleil: Aiie! Wait don't hug me, Foleo! どうしてですか? Foleo: Why? Youte always hugging me. Soleil: Being hugged is different from hugging! [BLANK] するのとされるのじゃ違うんだよ! Foleo: Well that's because youfe so cute and I [フォレオ]ソレイユが可愛いのがいけないんで すよ。それに, 自分の気持ちに嘘をつく方が 恥ずかしい ソレイユ言ってませんでしたっけ? Also, lying about what you feel is more embarrassing Isnt that you said, Solell? me レイユ]フォレオのいじわる Foleo: Ehehe. You can handle a little teasing. It's not as if I'm trying to embarrass you in front of BLANK] everyone. Im going to treasure you from now [フォレオ]うふふ·いじわるでいいですよ◇ 恥さらしにはなりたくありませんから。 今まで追いかけ回された分…これからは 僕があなたを可愛がっちゃいますからね。 逃がしませんよ. 僕の可愛いソレイユ。 as you used to chase me around. I wont let you get away, my cute little [ソレイユ] なんか Soleil: Oooh I dont know about this](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/169/eb8.png "Soleil x Foleo S support")
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![fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma B-Support Conversation umma The lines are completely rewritten, some weren't present in the original in any way. The same issue remains with removal of anything related to them being a family (e.g. even the soldiers are part of this "family" even if they're not blood related camaraderie is taken out of the localization). The dynamic of the conversation Mchanges but not in a meaningful way, the swapping of lines and the rewrites are the main problem, in the original, they talked about their feelings more and their bonds were stronger. #Torrentia!Downpour Origin Translation With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Ryona: Aqua, do you have the tine for a bit of a Ryo a: Hello, Azura. Do you have a minute? [リョウマ]アクア少しいいか? アクア]リョウ ne Azura: Yes. Actually, I ve been Looking for you. Ryoma: No, I don't you the ather day? remenber that thing I told Ryo a: Ch? You took our conversation to heart? So can I help you wit お前に言ったことがあっただろう? 仲間として、そして家族として、 Ryoma: When I was talking about relyingon me a bit more, not just as a fellow ally, but as a member of the family? もう少し俺を頼ってほしいと。 (79T]え、ええ… [リョウマ]実はその事について、 Azura: Nothing! I just heard that you've beon talking about me behind my back Ryoma: well actually about that, I went and talked to some of the soldiers about it. Ryoma: Did you? Uh...well, that was a bit of a misunderstanding 軍の者達に相談をしてみたんだ。 Everyone started pitching their best advice to me like we were 皆親身になつて相談に乗ってくれた。 Azura : Was it리 Are you saying that you weren't talking about me? ideas to bridge thing tar out, they alding think of any miracle But even after 11, I *S talking about you, but not 俺がお前との距離を縮められるような妙策は we gap between you and .. 結局聞き出すことはできなかった… アクア]リョウ [リョウマ]すまない… [アクア]いいのよ、リョウマ別に気にしなくて。 Ryoma: The truth is, I as asking our friends for ant us to be closer Aqua: No, that's quite all right, Ryoma really it's not gyou fellou soldiers might have sone suggestions on 1いや、しかし… didn Azura: Ch, ny. I'n such a hard time Ryoma: Well you say that, but... [アクア]それにそんな話を当人の私にするなんて! その裏表のない一本気なところが、 リョウマ…あなたらしいわね。 [リョウマ]あ! ああ…確かに本人に 言うようなことじゃないな。すまない。 (777]それよりリョウマ… 私からお願いがあるの。 [リョウマ]な、なんだ!何でも言ってくれ! [アクア]私への優しさはもういいの。 無理に私を妹だと思わなくてもいいから… 私の代わりに、カムイを気遣ってあげて Aqua: And telling the object or your pleas for advice all about it .. Ryouma, that's just like you, you've no guile in your straight and pure Ryoaa: h, right non that you nention it, I probably shouldn't have been tolling you all that. sorry Ryoma: "sigh That's al right. 1 should've come to you instead. P Azura: There's no need to apoloeize, You can make it up to me by do ing n favor actually have a reques Ryoma: Y-you do? You have only to say it and I'11 el Anything you es fuss over me? Avatar should Aqua Really, I don't need your kindness. You needn't have to make ne feel better by thinking of me be your priority no So instead, think of Kamui Ryoma: what does Avatar have to do with this? Azura: Ever since I arrived in Hoshido, yau treated Aqua : That kind of pure kindness that until now』 you gave ne the lave of a close family member ike 家族としての愛情は 本来私ではなく、 カムイに与えられるべきものでしょう? It was never meant far me, sa don't you think yau should give it to Kanui instead? But e both knoI was never supposed to be here. Avatar is your fanily! [リョウマ]そ、それは ! Ryona: Y-you ve got to be Ryoa: Azura, you're wrongl There's roon enough for both you and avatar [アクア]私はずっと あなたや白夜のきょうだいたち、 それからミコト女王と、 家族としての時間を過ごしてきた。 t have been you and our other iblings Azura: I e aluays been happy hr You and Queen koto made sure of that But no you should focus well this tine as a family koto, all come ins 私はそれで、じゅうぶん幸せだわ。 それよりも 今までできなかった分まで、 カムイを愛してあげてほしいの。 私のことを考えるより、 カムイのことを考えてほしいの。 And I'm happy with Just having that. Moreover... I wish you would give your love to Kamui, even more than you couldn't give to me Instead of thinking of me, I wish you'd think of Kamui 私の願いは、それだけよ。 Aqua: That's my request. That's all it is, really [リョウマ]ま、待ってくれ! アクア。 Ryo: Azura, wait! .. .Hnn. Is this why she's been avoiding me? 今まで俺を避けていたのは Aqua. So that's the reason you've been avolding me all this time..? End of B-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/090/467/43f.png "Azura x Ryoma - B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates - Kamui x Charlotte In the Japanese version, the character's avatar's personality would reflect whomever they chose to get close to, giving the player some agency in choosing how they wanted to characterize them, instead, the localization does not feature this when choosing Charlotte Charlotte's a character which wears a mask all the time, to hide her true personality of someone manipulative and foul mouthed. Primarily, she's nicer but also sexually aggressive in her pretend character. Kamui in the original notices this later on (recurring throughout the supports), and expresses aversion towards her pretend character's sexual aggression, this was completelyr sed in the localization, instead having him claim that her mask is frail and weak, most likely because of a misconception The localization suffers in noticing the differences in the Japanese language (the likely reason for the misconception), there are vocabulary mistakes, especially in the way Charlotte expresses herself, toning down her true personality. E.g. see http://i.imgur.com/RBaKXfw.png Overall, the support featured a more intimate and amicable relationship, the localization, because of the several alterations, took out such feeling #Torrential Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver ロッテ:どうしたのよ。いきなり呼び出し| Charlotte: What's with you? Calling me out o Charlotte: Why the sudden summons? e blue Kamui: I thought I'd follow in your lead and spit Corrin: After our last conversation, I thought I'd カムイ:僕も君を見習って、心をさらけ出そうと out everything I've been thinking. So from now 思ってね。僕は今から 自分を偽ることなく、本on I'm going to tell you my true feelings 当の気持ちを言う try opening up a bit, like you. There is some real value in being honest, and I'd like to do that without lying to myself Charlotte:What the f---? I love Y シャーロッテ:は?なんなのよ、 一体。 Charlotte:I am...very confused right now Corrin: What I'm trying to say is... I love you Charlotte: What?! Milord, you're speaking crazy カムイ 君が好きだ は、はぁ! ?あんた、頭Charlotte: lobotomy? The f---? Did you geta talk. You need to see a healer i: I'm just fine Corrin: I'm perfectly fine, Charlotte Charlotte: S-stop screwing around with people's Charlotte: If you are in your right mind, then heads like that! シャーロッテ:ひ、 人を馬鹿にすんのもいい加減 you should know how rude it is to mock people Kamui: I'm not screwing around or making fun Corrin: I'm not making fun of you! I'm very カムイ:馬鹿になんてしてし Charlotte: But. you're talking about me? Me! Charlotte: We...we did talk about how my Not only do I have a filthy mouth and a bad personality, but I'm a woman who chops dwn actually an aggressive, tree- smashing girl? trees with my bare hands!? 私よ?私なのよ! ?0% な シャーロッテ:だって helpless-woman thing is an act, right? How I'm カムイ:そんな言い方はよくないよ。 Kamui: You shouldn't talk about yourself like Corrin: Heh, didn't you say the wind blew that tree over? Charlotte: B-but, that's what I am Charlotte: Shut up-you know that was a lie. My point is, I wasn't honest with you before. How can you trust me? カムイ:裏表があるっていうのを気にするのは変Kamui: It's a little weird to get all bent out of だよ。誰しもそういう部分を持っているから shape about the difference in who you are and ね。とにかく僕は君の人間らしいところが好what you show to the world. Everyone deals Corrin: I think I'd be worried about the kind of person I am if your secrets bothered me | Everyone has something they'd rather not show with that. In any case, the very fact that you're to the world. You're human, Charlotte. And the so real and human is what I lov are anese sounds for when | Charlotte: * sniff * sniff * dy starting crying] カムイ:どうしたの? Kamui: What's wrong? somethin wrong Charlotte: [Japanese onomatopoeia for when BLANK] somebody starts sobbing uncontrollably] カムイ:えええええ!? Kamui: Whaaat the helll BLANK] Charlotte: The tears the tears just won't stop Charlotte: The tears... They won't stop!! And in これは本当の涙だから 一瞬で涙を流すテクニックは持ってるけ coming! Oh, I should let you know that these case you weren't sure, these are genuine tears are real tears, okay? I know how to ておくけど ry on Sure, I can cry on command, but this is - ね。 command, but this is different. Believe me カムイ:わかってる。 わかってるよ。 it. it. Corrin: I believe you, but...why are you crying? 本当に私なんかでいいの? Charlotte: But would you really be happy with Charlotte: Because hearing you say that is one of the nicest things I've ever heard... And I've gotten about me. But...are you sure you want to be ロッテ:でも me thing カムイ:うん、全然、 大丈夫。 I am completely sure. I th ver BLANK] BLANK] Kamui: I think it'd be fun if I were you Everyday would be full of surprises 楽しそうだよ。 毎日が刺 あな て相当な変わリCharlotte You're some kind of a weirdo, Charlotte: Corrin I'm not entirely sure you know what? カムイ:かもね。でも、そっちの方がいいと思うKamui: Maybe I am. But I still think you're the よ。変わり者同士のカップルなら永遠に一緒に one for me. We can be weirdos in love who | Corrin: That could be true, hahah. But if so, isn't that a good thing? Two people, crazy and in love, could never tire of each other never get tired of each other, whaddya think? Thanks, Kamui. I'm nothing Charlotte: . You might be right. Thank you つつか者ですが、末永くよろしくお願いしま れは本音なんだからね! ally, but here's to a long life together. I-I'm Corrir カムイ:うん、 わかってるよ。 こちらこそ、 これ Kamui: Yeah, I get it. From me to you, here's to [BLANK]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/091/828/0cc.png "Charlotte x Kamui significant S support alterations")
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