TillsterRulz wrote:
Plants glorious Swords flag on the new page
EDIT: fug you syndic for removing your comment :^(
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TillsterRulz wrote:
Plants glorious Swords flag on the new page
EDIT: fug you syndic for removing your comment :^(
I'm waiting for someone to either adopt Socialism or Communism or even both.
I already tried to adopt socialism in the first turn. I'm pretty sure I've been psuedo-socialist this whole time
Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
I already tried to adopt socialism in the first turn. I'm pretty sure I've been psuedo-socialist this whole time
Try mixing Capitalism with Socialism?
No more edits please, the turn is in progress. I will probably not post it today, so don't get your hopes up.
Hype?
World Summit
Members: Riveria, The Roses, Quechua, The Pathmakers, Polis, The Swords, Syserror, Dathuastan, Zellania, MacTire, Ovo, Vakun
Levantine Republic
Stalemate
Government: Parliamentary Republic
Culture: Religious Freedom, Persian Heritage, Egalitarianism, Compulsory Education, Welfare, Multiculturalism
Economy: State Capitalism
Military: Rogue Army, Republican Guard (spies), Knightly Awards
Tech: Machine Gun, Howitzer, Ironclads, Medicine, Steam Machines, Body Armor, Electricity
Dathuastan
Soviet Marmalade
Government: Republican Monarchy
Culture: Floating Homes, Ship Builders, Tide God, Persian Heritage, Compulsory Education, Eagle Reverence
Economy: State Capitalism
Military: Corsvaires Order, Immortals
Tech: Gatling Gun, Howitzer, Ironclads, Blast Furnace, Medicine, Steam Machines, Printing Press
Doon
Laud Piestrings
Government: Republic
Culture: Tedizm, Tundra Living, Ice Structures, Egalitarianism, Modern Justice
Economy: State Capitalism
Military: Eits Spy Network
Tech: Machine Gun, Howitzer, Clipper Ships, Medicine, Blast Furnace, Zeppelin, Steam Machines, Electricity
Polis
Sergeant Arch Dornan
Government: Theocratic Republic
Culture: Solairism, Turtle Status, Dancing Revolution, Holy Women, Persian Heritage, Compulsory Education, State Mafia, Tourist Trap, Gender Equality, Entertainment Capital
Economy: Corporate Oligarchy
Military: Sun Warrior Fanatics, Theft Tactics, Assassin Agency, Sun Rider Dragoons, Gorilla Force
Tech: Machine Gun, Howitzer, Sail Ships, Printing Press, Body Armor, Steam Engine, Zeppelins, Electricity
Flashpoints: Unwanted Indochina Missions, Japanese Terrorism
Vakun
You Are Reading This
Government: Republican Monarchy
Culture: Megalith Temples, Tengriism Faith, Long Songs, Public Education, Famous Scotch
Economy: Free Market Capitalism, Arms Hegemony
Military: Legions, "Gray Men," Elite Squadrons
Tech: Gatling Gun, Cannon, Ironclads, Medicine, Printing Press, Steam Machines, Body Armor, Zeppelin, Electricity
Mac Tíre-Madra
Spider-Byte
Government: Monarchy
Culture: Sacred Dogs, Tirius Worship, Famous Ale/Whiskey
Economy: Maritime Mercantile, Clothing Hegemony
Military: Warrior Society, Elite Legions, Criminal Army
Tech: Gatling Gun, Howitzer, Clipper Ships, Medicine(ss), Body Armor, Combustion Engine, Electricity
Ovo
Twisty
Government: Republic
Culture: God Questing, Cumpulsory Education, Egalitarian, Rap Music, Modern Justice
Economy: Free Market Capitalism, Prime Manufacturer
Military: Austere Elites, Dragoons Hospitaller, Advanced Tactics, Secret Police
Tech: Machine Gun, Cannon, Clipper Ships, Medicine, Radio, Combustion Engine(ss)
Monarchy of Roses
Tchefuncte Bonaparte
Government: Monarchy
Culture: Warrior Poets, Gender Equality, Religious Tolerance, Public Education
Economy: Multinational Corporatism
Military: Merchant Marine
Tech: Machine Gun, Cannon, Ironclads, Digital Computer, Radio, Medicine, Printing Press, Zeppelin, Steam Engine
Zellania
Naschzaube Maus
Government: Elected Dictatorship
Culture: Tide God, Bakuki Theater, Hostage Nobles, Lion Pride
Economy: State capitalism
Military: Vetting, Frogmen Operatives
Tech: Machine Gun, Cannon, Ironclads, Zeppelins, Medicine, Steam Machines, Radio
Naval Monte
CrowTheMagician
Government: Constitutional Republic
Culture: Totemic Rites, Gender Equality, Infinity Faith, Meritocracy, Persian Heritage, Egalitarianism, Compulsory Education, Guilds, Publishers, Welfare, Modern Justice, Universal Healthcare
Economy: Free Market Capitalism, Glass Hegemony
Military: Meritocracy, Shadow Men, Elite Dragoons, Medical Corps, Guerrilla Forces, Elite Marines
Tech: Gatling Gun, Howitzer, Ironclads, Medicine, Steam Machines, Printing Press, Radio(ss), Zeppelin
Flashpoints: Communist Unrest
Riveria
Crimeariver
Government: Parliamentary Republic, Constitutional Monarchy
Culture: Dendrolatry, Spruceborn Faith, Economic Principles, Persian Heritage, State Religion, Alpine Absinthe
Economy: Capitalism, Banking Hegemony
Military: Civic Duty Army, Fortified Alps, Vetting
Tech: Rifle, Howitzer, Clipper Ships, Combustion Engine(ss), Printing Press, Medicine, electricity
States of the Rising Sword
TillsterRulz
Government: Fascist Junta
Culture: Honor, Meritocratic Mystery Cults, Meritocracy, Guilds, Modern Justice, Public Schools
Economy: State Capitalism
Military: Elite Marines, Paramilitary
Tech: Rifle, Howitzer, Ironclads, Printing Press, Medicine, Steam Machines, Radio, Electricity
Syserror
Butterscotch (of Death)
Government: Parliamentary Republic
Culture: Kebab Faith, Free Religion, Persian Heritage, Modern Justice
Economy: Free Market Capitalism
Military: Military Schooling, Iskender Dragoons, Foreign Legion
Tech: Modern Small Arms, Howitzer, Clipper Ships, Medicine, Printing Press, Steam Engine(ss), Body Armor, Electricity
Ah bollocks I knew I was going to get a flashpoint eventually and now it looks like I should have kept my mouth shut on the whole Communism thing, I guess that's the price for being the first to have the Industrial Revolution (along with the other negative side effects of revolution). Luckily I already have a plan to deal with problem. Also thank god for Universal Heathcare for stopping a potential Communist fueled riots.
CrowTheMagician wrote:
Ah bollocks I knew I was going to get a flashpoint eventually and now it looks like I should have kept my mouth shut on the whole Communism thing, I guess that's the price for being the first to have the Industrial Revolution (along with the other negative side effects of revolution). Luckily I already have a plan to deal with problem. Also thank god for Universal Heathcare for stopping a potential Communist fueled riots.
Excellent. All is going according to plan.
Human players now outnumber NPCs. The colors on the map rapidly reduce in diversity as forces cluster into competing supernations. With no free space left on the map, the only way forward is through each other.
Communism rises… The industrial age passes….The ultimate climax of natRP looms like a shadow …
Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
Human players now outnumber NPCs. The colors on the map rapidly reduce in diversity as forces cluster into competing supernations. With no free space left on the map, the only way forward is through each other.
Communism rises… The industrial age passes….The ultimate climax of natRP looms like a shadow …
If they destroy China and begin to attack Doon and march straight into the Mediterranean than yes we have reasons to worry.
Currently I'm allied with Persia and that's probably the only dam stopping them from spilling into the west right now. But despite my efforts, that alliance feels on thin ice.
I allied because the moment I saw these guys I knew they meant business. Plus with so many other matters pressing me at the time, there was just no way I could deal with them.
Unfortunately this means they've steamrolled asia unchecked. I tried to capture Mongolia before they could get it but that failed. Now they've have become something to reckon with ( If only I wasn't cut off so many times >.> )
I don't advocate pissing them off right now, but I think we should consider taking precautions around these guys. I'm worried what they will do once China falls.
Finally war is at an end. And Syndic, I must know what experiments the Chocktaw did to my settlers.
Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
Currently I'm allied with Persia and that's probably the only dam stopping them from spilling into the west right now. But despite my efforts, that alliance feels on thin ice.
I allied because the moment I saw these guys I knew they meant business. Plus with so many other matters pressing me at the time, there was just no way I could deal with them.
Unfortunately this means they've steamrolled asia unchecked. I tried to capture Mongolia before they could get it but that failed. Now they've have become something to reckon with ( If only I wasn't cut off so many times >.> )
I don't advocate pissing them off right now, but I think we should consider taking precautions around these guys. I'm worried what they will do once China falls.
We have to act NOW before anything bad happens.
mfw Naval Monte is inventing communism/socialism
TillsterRulz wrote:
mfw Naval Monte is inventing communism/socialism
Socialism was already invented in Syserror and like I said I already have a way on dealing with Communism. Oh and to the other Industrial nations don't be surprised if some of your people want Communism.
@Soviet
Like I said, I'm not advocating immediate action on Persia.
Presently they aren't hostile and it's better to keep them happy and unprovoked at this stage.
I'm just saying, you should keep persia in mind and think of some backup plans in-case they get bored eating asia and turn west
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@Syndic
Hey Syndic can you please clarify something here.
I'm assuming our industries automatically sort out what they need to produce materials. We don't have to invent lumber mills to make ships, so I'm assuming:
…or do we? Have we been using iron for everything so far and not steel? Unless we've been buying steel from Dathustan and Doon this whole time.
I ask because I want to invent things that use steel but I'm being told that I cant do it without blast furnaces
> Other players getting invaded
> Commies
> Franco-Hitler
> Europe has dubious relations with one of the most powerful nations
Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
@Soviet
Like I said, I'm not advocating immediate action on Persia.
Presently they aren't hostile and it's better to keep them happy and unprovoked at this stage.
I'm just saying, you should keep persia in mind and think of some backup plans in-case they get bored eating asia and turn west
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@Syndic
Hey Syndic can you please clarify something here.
I'm assuming our industries automatically sort out what they need to produce materials. We don't have to invent lumber mills to make ships, so I'm assuming:
- we don't need to explicitly invent oil refineries as a prerequisite to petroleum
- we don't need to explicitly invent concrete as a prerequisite to cityscaping
- we don't need to explicitly invent blast furnaces as a prerequisite to steel
- we don't need to explicitly invent nuclear theory as a prerequisite to fission reactors
…or do we? Have we been using iron for everything so far and not steel? Unless we've been buying steel from Dathustan and Doon this whole time.
I ask because I want to invent things that use steel but I'm being told that I cant do it without blast furnaces
Honestly considering the fact that I made railroads without blast furnaces I'm guessing we've been using steal made from them.
>try to invent electric motors
>invent combustion ones instead
THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS
James Blunt wrote:
>try to invent electric motors
>invent combustion ones instead
THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS
If it makes you feel better, I tried inventing automatic rifles, and I got the combustion engine.
Spider-Byte wrote:
If it makes you feel better, I tried inventing automatic rifles, and I got the combustion engine.
damn historians
Okay these tech requirement are starting to make no sense. Especially in contrast with what we were told:
Technology is not a strictly linear historical development.
There is nothing stopping you from inventing the internet before the steam engine, or the atomic bomb before powered flight. Many technologies have no prerequisites besides a civilized society with scientific minds.
This implies that we're not limited to historical chronology when it comes to invention. We can invent what's in our resources to invent regardless of the era
Technologies that aren't really related in terms of resources used; shouldn't be dependent on each other right? It's possible to skip steam engines for the petrol engine so long as you have petrol, or skip the petrol engine for the electric motor so long as you have electronics. They all engines but using a different resource.
Or so we thought. But it seems we were all mistaken
I tried making combustion engines and got steam machines instead.
You can see the patterns here.
I tried making bolt-action rifles and I got gatling guns.
oh well, atleast ww1 was won
yay
@ Twisty
We did it!
Now let's hope that WW2 doesn't come.
If we make it to turn 20 I'm building a Death Star.
@ Spider-Byte
In your last turn you attempted to invent two techs. Combustion engines ("invent a primitive version of the automobile") and rifles ("Invent the automatic rifle"). I gave you the first one that showed up.
@ BSOD
Blast furnace tech actually means improved blast furnace. Players who have this tech produce a lot more steel, but everybody is capable of making steel and you have been for a very long time. Hell, even ancient China had blast furnaces.
@ all other tech questions
I have been building a tech tree as the game has progressed. Some related techs are prerequisites for others and some techs are like canopies which encompass many smaller ideas within them. For instance, the "Machine Gun" tech includes all small arms roughly from the 1935 to 1945 area of time. When you try to invent better explosives you have gotten Howitzers instead. If I included every single gun from that time period tech would get cluttered fast and it would take way too long to progress through the age.
As for prerequisites, I feel that innovations in a related field can be considered a direct requirement in some cases. The internal combustion engine, I assumed, came long after the steam engine because steam engines are easier to construct, the fuel for them is much more common in all places in the world, and skill in building them lead to innovations that could be used in building combustion engines. I am not an engineer, so I have no idea whether or not the two engines are actually related, and felt it safe to make the assumption.
I have been building a tech tree as the game has gone on to keep track of what is required for what. Whenever somebody tries to invent something I look at this tech tree and give them something related in the field, unless they are at the top of that field or such a related field to the attempted tech does not yet exist.
Solid arrow lines represent evolving techs (they get replaced in your tech list to reduce clutter) and dotted arrow lines represent additional requirements for the techs.
The reason combustion engines came last was that nobody had any idea where a reliable source of oil could be found until John Rockefeller discovered oil in Pennsylvania.
Btw why is everybody pissed at Levant? Did Stalemate do something wrong?
Owen, The Communist Tree wrote:
Btw why is everybody pissed at Levant? Did Stalemate do something wrong?
no idea either, but my guess is it must have been very bad
James Blunt wrote:
no idea either, but my guess is it must have been very bad
looks at profile picture Are from Colombia by any chance?
Owen, The Communist Tree wrote:
looks at profile picture Are from Colombia by any chance?
yes.
New group diplomacy channel:
#KYMnatRP on Freenode (same as #knowyourmeme)
Come discuss things.
@World Summit channel
Good thinking, I will be part of this
@Syndic
Okay thank you for clearing that up
By any chance are you making a complete tech tree? If so, I think it would be helpful if we saw it so we knew where we stand, what we need, as well as what is within our realm of possibility
Right now we're all making blind guesses and I think that's putting stress on you (having to think of ways to correct poor invention choices in accordance to your own rules) as well as stress on us (Seeing inventions take unexpected results and left wondering why)
Obviously said tech tree has to leave room for impossible but innovative ideas that would never occur in reality but are fun for natRP. And you cannot be expected to include every fun invention people will think of. Thus the tech tree must assume a degree of fluidity
But all it needs to be is just a general guideline for making standard realistic tech anyway and not fixed set of the only possible tech branches
By the way, if you guys want to raise a specific issue at the World Summit then just write it into your turn. This turn round I'm going to condemn Persia for all their conquests.
@ Riveria
>condemns Persia for conquest
>Swords did same thing to Ovo and pulled out as if nothing happened
Laud "The Bear Jew" Piestrings wrote:
@ Riveria
>condemns Persia for conquest
>Swords did same thing to Ovo and pulled out as if nothing happened
Yeah, but Swords pulled out pretty much right away whereas this is kind of an ongoing issue with the Persian Empire. And besides, pretty much everyone else condemned Swords anyway so it would have been a bit redundant.
@ BSOD
Alright, those are some very good points. I will include the tech tree from now on in each turn. It will be updated as players add to it by creating new inventions. I will also include logical "next step" techs for things that existed in real life or make sense within the context of whatever else has been invented.
@Riveria
Yea I think Persia is going to look at the rest of us conquering everybody and think "so what?"
How about we send them baked cookies instead?
Stalemate you sneaky sneaky bugger
@Owen
Tell me more about this sneakiness
Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
@Owen
Tell me more about this sneakiness
Want to know why Stalemate was attacked my a lot of people? He basically tried to force people to give land to him, he accidentally pissed off some people with some of his actions but the last straw that broke the camel’s back was that he made secret deals with people to betray each other so we would all be plunged into total war.
Courtesy of Crow
Owen, The Communist Tree wrote:
Want to know why Stalemate was attacked my a lot of people? He basically tried to force people to give land to him, he accidentally pissed off some people with some of his actions but the last straw that broke the camel’s back was that he made secret deals with people to betray each other so we would all be plunged into total war.
Courtesy of Crow
I did try to make some land deals with with BSoD and Laud, but nothing about betrayal or turning anybody against each other. I never 'forced' anybody to take land.
Gonna move this to the next page. becuase i think the next turn is comin in.
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