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So what version did everyone get?

I have Omega Ruby. Team Magma was just a bit more interesting to me than Team Aqua.

Just to know, I updated my DeviantArt memes that signify my favorite Pokémon. They've been updated for Gen VI and some in the previous generations have been changed as well since my opinions change. If you can, please comment on them on their respective DA page.

>mfw no ORAS until after Christmas

I'm probably going with Alpha Sapphire, if only because I had Sapphire back in the day. Plus I'm generally a water-type person vs. fire, my being a fan of the Fennekin line notwithstanding.

That and I don't know how many times Kyogre has saved my ass during a round of Smash.

They both look so alike

Here's a slightly complicated story:

On the night of release, my sister bought into the Hype for the Hoenn Remakes and wound up buying both games. Eventually she swept though Alpha Sapphire (the game I was interested in the most) and offer to let me play Omega Ruby.

Eventually she she wanted to play Omega Ruby as well. By that point I was through with Mount Pyre. Of course because she wanted to clean up her Bank, she also offered to let me take some Pokemon

After some back and forth between her bank and both games I eventually started Alpha Sapphire and made back the progress I lost in 2-3 days as well as took on the Leauge with the Following team:

Swampert: My starter from Sapphire. named Don after well…
Blaziken: My starter from Ruby. My sister picked the starter before loaning the game to me and named him Torch (at least it would fir the naming conventions if I decide to bring him to a contest)
Metagross: I got the shiny Beldum for both games, but this particular one is from Sapphire. The Designated Mega for the Elite 4 run
Breloom: I was aiming for a regenerative fighter of sorts (though he lacks Poison Heal). This one is from Omega Ruby
Latias and Latios: Nicknamed Magenta and Azure respectably. Which game they're form should be obvious (And no I didn't get the Eon Ticket until much later)

I also used a Sharpedo and Skarmory from Ruby as HM slaves.

Right now I also finished the Delta Episode and caught both Deoxys and Rayquayza

So uhh, I just caught a shiny Makuhita. Female. Named it Pouchy. Just felt like popping in and dropping that little piece of information.

I was planning on using Breloom as my fighting party member because I just love it so much, but now I can't pass up this opportunity to go through the game with a shiny on my team that isn't a mystery gift (yes I am going through the game with Steven's Beldum). It helps that Hariyama is just an awesome pokemon to begin with. This is actually my first time finding a shiny during my normal playthrough, I usually only find shinies in the post-game, and I can't even remember the last time I found a wild shiny.

Christmas miracles do happen.

http://www.pokemonmillennium.net/articoli/1345/intervista-eslusiva-junichi-masuda-e-shigeru-ohmori-ci--

Casuals ruin everything.

I would agree with you and tell you to hop on my back and give you a piggy back rid around the forum, however before that I need to point out a few things.
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*IF YOUR TIME IS VALUABLE SKIP TO END WITH THE ~*

I complained to all my friends about how X and Y basically hand feeding new players by dropping tons of hints to puzzles, adding super training, and practically holding our hands all the way to the Elite Four.

I played Pokemon sapphire back when it first came out and I loved the challenge of the game. I had fun solving the Regi mystery and getting up Sky pillar (The mach bike ain't what it used to be…). And now that I revisit my old world on the 2ds I feel kind of happy and sad at how the game went.

I destroyed this game by only using Mudkip(and his evolutions), Sableye (I traded for) and a Shroomrish (For catching Pokemon). I laughed during the credits it showed only Swampert for most of the time and the double battle with the twins Mega Swampert blocked out Sableye.

The story was dotted with so many hints even if I wiped my memory I could find my way through! Need to find Steven? Oh hey! My buddy Steven loves that cave just north west of here! Maybe he's in there. Hey Ozone! Do you want to travel with me to this place to you don't have to walk?Okey!

As bad as I may make it out to be I'm not hating any of it (Exepct when I came across Team Magma Training Walimer out in the bay. They were suppose to be smart!) and I especially like the new coat of paint on everything.
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I do however make one important point:
The game is E for everyone.

Yes the new players have short attention spans. Yes Game Freak cuts content and dumbs down things to make it fast and attention grabbing. Yes the Pokemon World is now shrunk down into a shorter story and a post game episode that only took 15 minutes (I would happily pay for DLC and new content).

Yet that doesn't cut out everyone who plays the game. Everyday a casual becomes a hardcore gamer when they wish to push the game further.

I would continue to my Pokemon rant but that is for another time.

Now hop on!

Anyway I'm gonna take a break from Pokemon, the owner of the game I wa splaying wanted it back and I don't have a game of my own (if I did I wouldn't be borrowing)

Is Pokemon easy? Yes, yes it's easy. But it's always been easy. If my 8 year old self could beat the elite 4 in FR/LG with nothing but a Blastoise, then the game's fucking easy. But what makes Pokemon so accessible to a wide range of players is you have the option to make it as easy or as hard as you want. Turn off the exp share, do a nuzlocke, use low-stat pokemon, the options are limitless. I don't buy people saying the games are too easy. If you're playing the game on easy mode then it's your own god damn fault the game's too easy for you.

And if Nuzlocke isn't enough difficulty for you, then go to PVP and watch how quickly your ass gets kicked. This is why I never buy those people who call it 'easy'. Sure, it is easy from what is given to you, but once you hit the big stage, holy shit.

I was just playing the game that I was given by Game Freak. I believe that only Black and White 2 had a key system to make that game easy or hard.

Thanks for confirming what I said though :D

RULE 6.

So today in Pokemon I wonder traded a ralts I had left over from breeding (finally got one with perfect IVs) for a Giratina. That was pretty cool.

but there is hints to it coming :/

Hey, did you know that Abra knows a good magic trick. they can make your Pokeballs disappear!

I don't understand casual player hate…

I have to admit, I'm somewhat of a casual player. And I'm a bad gamer too. XD
I've only beaten the Elite Four once (in X and Y too), I don't try to catch em all, and I don't understand competitive battling, no matter how hard I try.

More post game would be GREAT though. I've always wanted to the post game stuff, so I really disappointed when I beat the Elite Four in X and Y. I'm sick of these side quests and episodes, and they have only done this crap twice.

I'll try to explain casual player hate. You know those smartphone pay-to-win games? Yeah most gamers hate them, and some take to to the extent of hating the casual demographic and blaming them for the existence of that marker, out of a (maybe misguided) fear that the market will no longer cater to them any more (even though even for AAA titles most of the buyers are causal players and that not all gamers are born hardcore, they start out as casual players)

As for other reasons why they hate smartphone games. Its either because they are too easy/shallow or because they have something that needs real world money to help progress the game within a reasonable amount of time

The word in the last paragraph that is relevant is "Shallow". On Bulbagarden (and probably other places) I saw several people having the same fear as the people in the first paragraph; that Pokemon is not longer catering to the hardcore fans. And use missing features (For ORAS the Battle Frontier is the most infamous example as well as Gym Leader rematches, which were also omitted despite them being on the Dex-Nave and that feature being in XY)

Fanning the flames if Pokemon Composer and Director Junichi Masuda's statements on the matter. If you look up a few posts you'll see that he answered the question of why the Frontier was removed. In another interview I believe he explicitly mentioned smartphone games. stroking the fears of the "casualization" of the franchise. The annual releases, tweaking of the Exp. Share, being given certain powerful pokemon and general difficulty of the games (nevermind that pokemon's main game was alwaysa cakewalk and that the exp. share could be turn off) are also factors into these fears.

And before you ask, I'm also can be seen as a semi-casual

Ah, that makes more sense now.

Moving on from casuals and onto the actual interview, I find he said about how people have less time to spend on a single game to be strange. Most people who buy Pokemon are already fans and would be more than happy to spend a long time on the game. Of course new players who are still sorting out their thoughts on the game and… Yes, certain kinds of casual players may not, but…. This won't make established fans happy… I think it's just a bad move, but I don't think it'll be permanent.

I think pokemon fans should send mail and what not for harder things to be included to show their is a market for hardcore players. I know ORAS wouldn't have ever been made if it wasn't for people wanting 3rd gen remakes. I think demanding hardcore stuff can work the same.

So, how about we talk about school instead.

When I was in primary school. Most of the students in my class played Generation III, which I dislike. (It's not the worst, just disappointing) They also keep talking about Rayquaza for some reason.
I can't bring Gameboy Advance as the school doesn't allow.

When I was in Secondary School, I'm still a fan of Pokemon. Though I haven't really discuss anything related to Pokemon that much. Beside, by that time I was in secondary school, most of them are already use smartphones to play games. (Even though most of them suck)

What I'm coming to appreciate is the small things ORAS has added.

For example, I briefly saw that Spiritomb was available as an interactable Pokemon in Sea Mauville. However, you have to "leave the field" in order to access it (i.e., open the PokeNav, enter the Pokemon menu, anything that makes the top screen leave the field) and you have to do it while standing in a specific spot.

So the effect ends up being that you're looking at something, you go to check up on your Pokemon, you go to look at the map, and then boom:
 
Right behind you is a rare Ghost-Pokemon.
 
I think that's really neat.

There's also more interaction in the field from Gym Leaders and the Elite Four. You can find Phoebe at Mount Pyre talking to her grandmother, you can see Liza and Tate being bribed for their services in Lilycove, and you can find Flannery looking for a Fire-pokemon (Heatran) on a route south of Fortree.

It doesn't take a lot to add that to a game, but it makes characters in a JRPG feel less like just battles and more like actual characters. I hope they continue to do that in future games.
 
 
Boss Chatot and Boss Xatu.

You never realized how unlucky you can get until a Reshiram breaks out of enough ultra balls to use Struggle at 1 HP.

Thank god I saved before the battle.

Conversely I caught Cressellia with 3 Ultra balls

Is it okay if I ask you guys why we all like Pokémon? What thing about it makes us so drawn to the series? Is it the Pokémon? The battling? What do we find is so appealing about this series?

I mainly like the Pokémon itself. There are some I like so much that I wished they really existed. Though mostly I would have them for pets rather than battling.

Is it okay if I ask you guys why we all like Pokémon?

It's not.

Pokémon isn't the first monster catching or collection game. It's certainly not the first JRPG. It's not even a good pet game, really. But no other game combines those elements as well as Pokemon. Not by a long shot.

Yes, I did just quote a post from a locked thread in a different thread.
Yes, I am a Delphox.
Yes, I did just double post.
But seeing as the quoted post should have been here in the first place, I felt a double post was suitable. Feel free to delete it or whatever.

Anyway, I think looking into most OU and Uber tiers will give you one answer, and seeing what you find online will give you others.

Best, of course is subjective.

What's the most liked?
What's the most used?
What's the most diverse?
What's the most unstoppable (or unbreakable or unstoppably annoying)?

As a rule, your pseudo legendaries all have your 600 Base Stats and have 2 evolutions. They tend to be Dragons, but I'd call Metagross a pseudo-legendary despite it being in the same generation of Salamence.

Let me put down a list:

• Dragonite (UU)
• Tyranitar (OU and OU)
• Metagross (OU and OU)
• Salamence (UU and Uber)
• Garchomp (OU and OU)
• Hydreigon (UU)
• Barney (UU)

Going from the list, I think you'll probably find Garchomp to be the most used and most liked. It's basically got everything stats-wise and can effectively do everything given the right moveset, items, and abilities. And you can even go overkill with its Mega Evolution if need be. It's what I see most often online.

I don't see Goodra or Hydreigon at all in random battles. Hydreigon has a lot of weaknesses, and Goodra is comparatively lacking in all stats outside of Special Defense (but it has no reliable recovery moves, so it's not quite built to be a tank.)

The rest you'll see a good bit, but the least likely is possibly Metagross even with the Mega Evolution. Steel is no longer resistant against everything and your mother, so it can't take hits as well, and it's not very fast meaning it can't sweep straight out of the box (or ball).

Salamence and Dragonite are about the same. Same typing with massive Attack. But Dragonite is a little more bulky and can be defensive with its stats, Multiscale, and Roost. Salamence has the Gyarados/Krookodile ability combo in Intimidate and Moxie allowing for enfeebling and sweeping, respectively (and its Mega Evolution is Uber).

Tyranitar is different. It's slow. But very bulky, has a ton of Attack, a lot of resistances (and weaknesses), and has Sand Stream which immediately boosts its Special Defense and chips away at most opponents. It's Mega Evolution adds to it's Attack and defenses, and it has a lot of attacking and support moves to choose from.

Garchomp has only 3 weaknesses, can immediately sweep with the right nature and EV distributions, has great coverage with STAB moves, discourages contact attacks with one of its abilities, and can hax with another. Among Earthquake, Fire Fang/Fire Blast, and Outrage/Dragon Rush/Dragon Claw, you can put a good dent in just about everything.

Smogon has it listed as the best as well on a forum thread I found (pre-Goodra, but I don't think it would rank higher than last.)
 
I prefer Dragonite myself due to its options. 134 Attack, Dragon Dance/Agility, Multiscale, avoiding ground-based hazards, and Roost.

tl;dr

Guys, what is the best pseudo?

Guys, what is the best pseudo?

You should check the post above yours.

Well I started to re-play Pokemon X (I can't buy none of the ORAS games yet) and I just found my first ever shiny! Its a shiny Pikachu (I know, its not much different than regular Pikachu, but its my first shiny ever, so I don't mind)

So… Weird thing that I've been thinking about too much lately so I thought I'd return to this thread to say it… Mostly urged on by the fact that it came up while I was in an unrelated thread and needed to clear up a thought.

So what's been bugging me? The fact its seems a lot of people might not actually understand what actually fits in a Pokemon type.

I find it all the time with either memes comparing growing characters to Pokemon, or fake mon… But often the "Magic" ones keep getting stereotyped as Psychic, when Psychic is actually the least mystical and probably the most science and psudo-science based.

While sometimes, it may be justified by dual typing such as with Ghost, it isn't in the majority. And the most sensible combination for a "wizard" pokemon would probably be Psychic/Fairy… Which almost never comes up in fan discussion, save for one time in canon.

Yeah… I think Gardevoir's "Mystical" thing is more a product of her Fairy type than Psychic type. Take her away and besides Legendaries, all one has left to justify "Magical Psychics" is Delphox… Which is technically named after Oracles (a.k.a "Psychic Mediums") rather than Wizards to be fair.

On a similar note… I also have similar concerns for Dark Types, which I once tumblr--ed about how Dark Type Fakemon always seem to be competing for "Most Ferocious" and "Most Creepy" even when they've long surpassed the actual canon holders for those traits among Dark types.

When the creature looks more appropriate for a Fighting type than a Dark type… Why label it as a Dark type? If there's an actual rule as to what Dark types are, its just as likely to be "Sleek and sneaky" as it is to be vicious. Yet very few explore that side of Dark types in design or in discourse.

Meanwhile… The "Creepy" fan made Dark pokemon all make me think they'd fit better as ghosts. Maybe even Fairy, or ironically even Psychic. Very few look like they'd fit pure Dark Types, and even fewer actually consider that.

Sorry to dump this all on you… But I needed somewhere to vent my critical frustrations that wouldn't be off topic.

Side topic… You know what I'd like to see meme-wise? A picture of Espurr making its blank face saying "I can see the future".

…All DBZ abridged like.

Most people, when they think of mystical pokemon, they think of Psychic, like Xatu, Sigiplyph and Unown. Really, not that many (in fact, none that I can think of) Psychic types are sciency, just because Psychic powers are linked to the mind. Steel type fits that better usually.
Fairy type is new and hasn't grown in long term Pokemon fans psyche like Psychic type has. Not only that, but Fairy type isn't a catch all for 'Magical" pokemon either, Fairy types are pokemon based on Nymphs, Fairies (Good and Mischievous) and Innocence rather than Magic. Celfairy is a freaking ALIEN for petes sake!
I can only assume this was brought on by my Twilight Pokemon Evolution post (A picture I did not make btw) In My Little Pony, most Unicorn Magic manifests itself with Telekinesis, something that is almost universally associated with Psychic powers, so it makes sense a Unicorn would be most associated with Psychic type. Psychic type is also associated with intelligence and mental ability, something Twilight has in access.
Dark type in Japanese is Aku, which means Evil type. While not all Dark types are Evil (Umbreon and Absol) most are mischievous and trouble making. However, if people are trying to make Fakemon that are the creepiest or most vicious (read: Edgiest) it makes sense for them to make them Dark type, Dark is edgy after all her-durr.

@RyumaruBorike

I was going to start up another huge rant but I might as well just point out what my grievance amounts to rather than soap box.

Saturation and Homogeneity.

I'm annoyed that I can't find a fan made Dark Pokemon I like under a mountain of rugged buffsticks and horror rejects of the Dark/Ghost variety.

I'm slightly annoyed that finding a non magical Psychic type takes several minuites.

I'm most annoyed that its almost impossible to find a magical Pokemon that isn't automatically labeled "Psychic".

The whole need to vent started when I wanted to find a fan made Dark/Fairy Pokemon, and so far I haven't found one. I even tried looking for something based after Cait Sith, and the closest I found was a Witch themed Dark/Psychic which was hard enough to find amongst the sea of burly Dark types, and it was still Psychic for no more reason than it would have for it being Fairy type instead.

And so I lashed out at how crowds of people have exaggerated a single occasional trait of "mildly mystic mental training" for Psychics to the point of it being the default for "magic", well beyond the point it makes any sense.

Perhaps because it was easier to point that out than just go "hey this is over-represented" and get weird stares from people that somehow equated Psychic with Magic.

Well, I'm not that into Fake-mon so I can't really understand the grievance. Magic-Type doesn't exist nor is there anything that associates with it, 12 of the 18 types being Elements or Animals, Normal and Fighting being the opposite of Magic, you are left with Ghost, Psychic, Fairy and Dark.
I can guess a fair amount of Fake-mon were made before X and Y, so Fairy would be underrepresented, Ghost being it's own thing, we are left with Dark and Psychic. Dark being associated with Evil and Darkness, Psychic is left as the closest thing to Magic, both being Mental disciplines over fantastic powers. Unless the Pokemon is based on a certain type of magic (Pyromancy or Dark Magic) Psychic becomes the catchall due to their not being something better.

I still stand by Twilight being Psychic type due to Telekinesis, High Intelligence, the fact that Fairy doesn't really fit and the only other type (other than flying) that would fit here is Fire due to that one gag.

RyumaruBorike Wrote:

I still stand by Twilight being Psychic type due to Telekinesis, High Intelligence, the fact that Fairy doesn’t really fit and the only other type (other than flying) that would fit here is Fire due to that one gag.

Fair enough.

Personally I wouldn't be so quick to rule out Fairy considering certain mythological representations of unicorns as being Fae like… But its not something I feel pressed to explain right now.

True to my username, I'm going on a Dragon Monotype run through Pokemon Y starting today at high noon.

True to my username, I'm going on a Dragon Monotype run through Pokemon Y starting today at high noon.

Dragon Monotype
Starters are only Grass, Water, and Fire

Lol MegaZard X
Also I'm using Pokebank to get a Level 5 Bagon from ORAS. Then everything will take off from there.
Also, is it okay if I use MegaZard X? Or should I stay absolutely exclusive and go with MegaChomp?

Megazard is not Dragon when not Mega so it's cheating
:)
Also teach one or more of them Iron Head or Poison Jab, word of advice.

FUCK
I hate Smogonshark….
New plan! I only use it when it is fully Evolved and whenever I do use it, it has to be a mega.
….
C'mon, please? Anything but Smogonshark…
Wait…
FUCK YEAH LATIOS FROM SOUL SILVER AT LEVEL 35. (Latiosite works in Y version)
So I'll have to go the run without my 2nd favorite mega evo… Damn.

Too be fair, I also dislike Garchomp, not because of smogon, but because I dislike the concept of land sharks to begin with

It only wants to get its cutie mark though.

I thought Garchomp was a cool looking dragon type. And with ORAS, I can finally get Flygon and Salamance again.

So, what dragon types are you fans of and which don't give the Dragon type a good image?

Wut?

Have fun at the fairy time gym. Also, Diantha's mega gardevoir is gonna be a pretty fun time as well.

This makes more sense now that I can see the image

I like all dragons except Garchomp
But Axew is so cute I feel guilty letting it evolve
Dragonite is also one of my favorite pokemon ever

The one dragon I am not a fan of is Goodra.

Not a fan of slugs… Or Snails… They kind of trigger a gag reflex in me.

Conversely with bugs, even though I find Bugs are creepy and I'm kind of afraid of them, I don't have much of a gag reflex for them. And I certainly don't seem to hate them.

So Flygon as some king of mix between a reptile and a dragonfly is pretty cool.

As for the rest… I'd probably call out the mid evolution between Bagon and Salamance as being goofy, Dragonite is a bit of a chubby goofball compared to Dragonair, and Drudigion looks a tiny bit chewed up… So yeah, just mild quibbles.

Really… I think my favorite (Non legendary) Dragon right now would be Noivern.

Three guesses why:
Bats
Dragon Bats
Fluffy Dragon Bats

Druddigon Master Race

It's slow, ugly, and has a bad color scheme. Everything else is too concerned with being cool.