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![Fire Emblem Fates - Kamui x Charlotte In the Japanese version, the character's avatar's personality would reflect whomever they chose to get close to, giving the player some agency in choosing how they wanted to characterize them, instead, the localization does not feature this when choosing Charlotte Charlotte's a character which wears a mask all the time, to hide her true personality of someone manipulative and foul mouthed. Primarily, she's nicer but also sexually aggressive in her pretend character. Kamui in the original notices this later on (recurring throughout the supports), and expresses aversion towards her pretend character's sexual aggression, this was completelyr sed in the localization, instead having him claim that her mask is frail and weak, most likely because of a misconception The localization suffers in noticing the differences in the Japanese language (the likely reason for the misconception), there are vocabulary mistakes, especially in the way Charlotte expresses herself, toning down her true personality. E.g. see http://i.imgur.com/RBaKXfw.png Overall, the support featured a more intimate and amicable relationship, the localization, because of the several alterations, took out such feeling #Torrential Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver ใญใใ:ใฉใใใใฎใใใใใชใๅผใณๅบใ| Charlotte: What's with you? Calling me out o Charlotte: Why the sudden summons? e blue Kamui: I thought I'd follow in your lead and spit Corrin: After our last conversation, I thought I'd ใซใ ใค:ๅใๅใ่ฆ็ฟใฃใฆใๅฟใใใใๅบใใใจ out everything I've been thinking. So from now ๆใฃใฆใญใๅใฏไปใใ ่ชๅใๅฝใใใจใชใใๆฌon I'm going to tell you my true feelings ๅฝใฎๆฐๆใกใ่จใ try opening up a bit, like you. There is some real value in being honest, and I'd like to do that without lying to myself Charlotte:What the f---? I love Y ใทใฃใผใญใใ:ใฏ?ใชใใชใฎใใ ไธไฝใ Charlotte:I am...very confused right now Corrin: What I'm trying to say is... I love you Charlotte: What?! Milord, you're speaking crazy ใซใ ใค ๅใๅฅฝใใ ใฏใใฏใ! ?ใใใใ้ ญCharlotte: lobotomy? The f---? Did you geta talk. You need to see a healer i: I'm just fine Corrin: I'm perfectly fine, Charlotte Charlotte: S-stop screwing around with people's Charlotte: If you are in your right mind, then heads like that! ใทใฃใผใญใใ:ใฒใ ไบบใ้ฆฌ้นฟใซใใใฎใใใๅ ๆธ you should know how rude it is to mock people Kamui: I'm not screwing around or making fun Corrin: I'm not making fun of you! I'm very ใซใ ใค:้ฆฌ้นฟใซใชใใฆใใฆใ Charlotte: But. you're talking about me? Me! Charlotte: We...we did talk about how my Not only do I have a filthy mouth and a bad personality, but I'm a woman who chops dwn actually an aggressive, tree- smashing girl? trees with my bare hands!? ็งใ?็งใชใฎใ! ?0% ใช ใทใฃใผใญใใ:ใ ใฃใฆ helpless-woman thing is an act, right? How I'm ใซใ ใค:ใใใช่จใๆนใฏใใใชใใใ Kamui: You shouldn't talk about yourself like Corrin: Heh, didn't you say the wind blew that tree over? Charlotte: B-but, that's what I am Charlotte: Shut up-you know that was a lie. My point is, I wasn't honest with you before. How can you trust me? ใซใ ใค:่ฃ่กจใใใใฃใฆใใใฎใๆฐใซใใใฎใฏๅคKamui: It's a little weird to get all bent out of ใ ใใ่ชฐใใใใใใ้จๅใๆใฃใฆใใใใ shape about the difference in who you are and ใญใใจใซใใๅใฏๅใฎไบบ้ใใใใจใใใๅฅฝwhat you show to the world. Everyone deals Corrin: I think I'd be worried about the kind of person I am if your secrets bothered me | Everyone has something they'd rather not show with that. In any case, the very fact that you're to the world. You're human, Charlotte. And the so real and human is what I lov are anese sounds for when | Charlotte: * sniff * sniff * dy starting crying] ใซใ ใค:ใฉใใใใฎ? Kamui: What's wrong? somethin wrong Charlotte: [Japanese onomatopoeia for when BLANK] somebody starts sobbing uncontrollably] ใซใ ใค:ใใใใใ!? Kamui: Whaaat the helll BLANK] Charlotte: The tears the tears just won't stop Charlotte: The tears... They won't stop!! And in ใใใฏๆฌๅฝใฎๆถใ ใใ ไธ็ฌใงๆถใๆตใใใฏใใใฏใฏๆใฃใฆใใ coming! Oh, I should let you know that these case you weren't sure, these are genuine tears are real tears, okay? I know how to ใฆใใใใฉ ry on Sure, I can cry on command, but this is - ใญใ command, but this is different. Believe me ใซใ ใค:ใใใฃใฆใใ ใใใฃใฆใใใ it. it. Corrin: I believe you, but...why are you crying? ๆฌๅฝใซ็งใชใใใงใใใฎ? Charlotte: But would you really be happy with Charlotte: Because hearing you say that is one of the nicest things I've ever heard... And I've gotten about me. But...are you sure you want to be ใญใใ:ใงใ me thing ใซใ ใค:ใใใๅ
จ็ถใ ๅคงไธๅคซใ I am completely sure. I th ver BLANK] BLANK] Kamui: I think it'd be fun if I were you Everyday would be full of surprises ๆฅฝใใใใ ใใ ๆฏๆฅใๅบ ใใช ใฆ็ธๅฝใชๅคใใชCharlotte You're some kind of a weirdo, Charlotte: Corrin I'm not entirely sure you know what? ใซใ ใค:ใใใญใใงใใใใฃใกใฎๆนใใใใจๆใKamui: Maybe I am. But I still think you're the ใใๅคใใ่
ๅๅฃซใฎใซใใใซใชใๆฐธ้ ใซไธ็ทใซ one for me. We can be weirdos in love who | Corrin: That could be true, hahah. But if so, isn't that a good thing? Two people, crazy and in love, could never tire of each other never get tired of each other, whaddya think? Thanks, Kamui. I'm nothing Charlotte: . You might be right. Thank you ใคใคใ่
ใงใใใๆซๆฐธใใใใใใ้กใใใพ ใใฏๆฌ้ณใชใใ ใใใญ! ally, but here's to a long life together. I-I'm Corrir ใซใ ใค:ใใใ ใใใฃใฆใใใ ใใกใใใใ ใใ Kamui: Yeah, I get it. From me to you, here's to [BLANK]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/091/828/0cc.png "Charlotte x Kamui significant S support alterations")
Charlotte x Kamui significant S support alterations
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![Fire Emblem Fates-Soleil Foleo As seen previously, the conversation is completely changed, instead of a confession from Foleo, we have a semi-non- friday Anyway, in the original, Foleo finally expresses his inner issues with how he thinks others see him, the localization misses that, actually, the localization misses any type of characterization, or at least, meaningful characterization. Soleil taks about her own preferences in romance and also shows a more embarrassed side which is usually absent from the really socially free Soleil. The localization talks about a bottle of shampoo. Oh and, it finally shows what they wanted to make Foleo become. If you've seen C, B and A, you'd know Foleo has some issues with his apperance in the original, the localization takes that out. Let that sink ih. If you want to see all the other documented Fire Emblem Fates changes, check this link: #Torrentia!Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver Forrest: Hello, Soleil. Im sorry again about the hair debacle! You've looked so down ever since! I can make it up to you. I'd be happy to sew you like mine? Would that cheer you up? Soleil: That's really sweet of you, Forrest, but I that frown upside down," but sometimes that's Soleil:What's up with you, Foleo? YOU calling MY name. Will wonders never cease. don't think a cape will help. I always say,"Tun ใใฉใฌใชใใๅฃฐใใใใฆใใใใชใใฆ hard to do about you Do girls? har. I don't know ใฝใฌใคใฆใฏ ๅฅณใฎๅญใๅฅฝใใชใใงใใใญ? ใใฏใฏ ไปๆดใใใชใใจใ่ใใฎ? Soleil: Ahaha. You have to ask? Of course! I love cute girls! Soleil: Oh, that's not it! I'm bummed because you wont curls and I are hopeless! ใใใใฏๅฏๆใๅฅณใฎๅญใๅคงๅฅฝใใ ใ! ็ทใฎๅญใใใใกใชใใงใใ? Foleo: So you're not interested in boys? I mean Forrest: Why would you say that? There are other Soleil: I wouldnt say I'm not interested in them Soleil: Really? I thought someone super-cute like I mean, look there's no grace with guys, right? we could do besides har! [ใฝใฌใคใฆ] ๅฅณใฎๅญใฎๆนใๆญ็ถๅฅฝใใ ใใ ใ ใใใ่ฆใฆใฆใ็ใไธใใใชใใใ ใใญ you would have tons of friends already So I don't get worked up when I look at them. Forrest: I have friends, but I've always got room ใใฃใฑใใใใชใใงใใโฆ Soleil: But I ove you My heart really gets going when I look at you and I just want to squeeze you ch so tight! Soleil: And what if I don't want to be your friend? ใงใใใใฉใฌใชใฎใใจใฏๅฅฝใใ ใใ ่ฆใฆใฆใใ
ใใ ใใใใใ Foleo: Realy? You really think that of me? Forrest: Oh! well, in that case, I t be on my ๆฌๅฝใซใใๆใฃใฆใใใฆใใใฎใงใใ? ๅใฏ็ทใชใฎใซใใใช่ฆใ็ฎใงโฆ ๆฐๆใกๆชใใจๆใฃใใใจใฏใชใใใงใใ? boy, but I look lke this? Soleil: How could I ever think such a thing!! Soleil: No! Wait! I didn't mean it lke that. What if I want to be MORE than your friend? ใใฉใฌใชใฏใจใฃใฆใ็ด ๆตใ ใใใ Why would I chase you around so much if you ใใฉใฌใชใๆชใ่จใๅฅดใใใใ picking on you, I'1l give em what If for with my ใฝใฌใคใฆ If that's true . then would you consider a ใใใช ๅใจใไปใๅใใใฆใใใพใใใ? Soleil: You know that I have a thing for super cute girls, right? all? I love you. Forrest: Right..but you know that Im.. ๅใฏใฝใฌใคใฆใฎใใจใๅฅฝใใชใใงใใ ใใฉยท ใใฉใฌใชใใใใใๅฅฝใ! ? Soleil: Y-you love me? ใ่ฟทๆใ ใฃใใงใใใใ? Forrest: Well, Soleil, I think youre pretty adorable ใพใ ใพใใใใใช No no Solell: Really? ใใฉใฌใชใฟใใใชๅฏๆใๅญใซๅ็ฝใใใฆ ใใใใๅคฉใซใๆใใใใชๆฐๅใง Forrest: Yes! You have so much energy. When you show up, you light up the whole room. I don't even mind all of the hair pulling and the Foleo: Soleil! Soleil: Wait a minute! You said I could borrow it ๅใฏ็ๅฃใชใใงใ ็ๅฃใซ่ฟไบใใใฆไธใใ Forrest: Im teasing! In fact, I have a gift for you I got you your very own bottle. ser Soleil: Youre right sorry. But, I ..just dont Soleil: What?! For me? You mean, I can smell like ใงใใใใใโฆใใใใชใใ ใใใใใฉใฌใชใซๅฅฝใใใใใใชใใจ I haven't done anything to make you love me ใใคใ่ฟฝใใใๅใใฆใใ ใใชใฎใซ ใใงใใ ใฝใฌใคใฆใฏๅใ็ทใจใๅฅณใจใ Without worrying about whether I'm a boy ora too, you know girl You said you ใใชๅฅณๆงใฏไปใซใฏใใพใใใ ๅใฏ ใใชใใๅฅฝใใชใใงใโฆ There's no other lady lke that around. That's I love you. Soleil: Aww... Thanks, Forrest! You really know a girt feel special ่ฟไบใ่ใใใฆใใ ใใใ ใฝใฌใคใฆ Soleil: D-Don't be so mean, Foleo Im the one [BLANK] |ใใคใใฏใใใใใ่ชฌใๆนใ ใฃใใฎใซ I love you too as a woman loves a man. ใใฉใฌใชใๅฅฝใใ ใ ไธไบบใฎ็ทๆงใจใใฆ [ใใฉใฌใช]ๆฌๅฝใงใใ! Foleo: Realy? Soleil... that makes my day! ใใงๅใใกใฏๆไบบๅๅฃซใงใใญ! [ใฝใฌใคใฆ ใกใใฃใจโฆๆๅ
ใใใใชใใงใใใฉใฌใช. Soleil: Aiie! Wait don't hug me, Foleo! ใฉใใใฆใงใใ? Foleo: Why? Youte always hugging me. Soleil: Being hugged is different from hugging! [BLANK] ใใใฎใจใใใใฎใใ้ใใใ ใ! Foleo: Well that's because youfe so cute and I [ใใฉใฌใช]ใฝใฌใคใฆใๅฏๆใใฎใใใใชใใใง ใใใใใใซ, ่ชๅใฎๆฐๆใกใซๅใใคใๆนใ ๆฅใใใใ ใฝใฌใคใฆ่จใฃใฆใพใใใงใใใฃใ? Also, lying about what you feel is more embarrassing Isnt that you said, Solell? me ใฌใคใฆ]ใใฉใฌใชใฎใใใใ Foleo: Ehehe. You can handle a little teasing. It's not as if I'm trying to embarrass you in front of BLANK] everyone. Im going to treasure you from now [ใใฉใฌใช]ใใตใตยทใใใใใงใใใงใใโ ๆฅใใใใซใฏใชใใใใใใพใใใใใ ไปใพใง่ฟฝใใใๅใใใๅโฆใใใใใฏ ๅใใใชใใๅฏๆใใฃใกใใใพใใใใญใ ้ใใใพใใใ. ๅใฎๅฏๆใใฝใฌใคใฆใ as you used to chase me around. I wont let you get away, my cute little [ใฝใฌใคใฆ] ใชใใ Soleil: Oooh I dont know about this](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/107/169/eb8.png "Soleil x Foleo S support")
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![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma S-Support Conversation And this is the culmination of the changes to the previous conversations. The previous changes still have an effect on the future conversations. The whole support turned into a discussion about groceries and depending on people for chores. Like in many ather support conversations anything related to rings is taken out #Torrential Downpour Translati Original NOA V ersion (777]ใชใงใฆใใใใฃใใฏ้ฃๆใฎ่ฒทใๅบใใซ ไปใๅใฃใฆใใใฆใใใใจใใ ! Aqua: Thanks for coming with me to go buy | Azura. Thanks again for carrying in the Ryoma: Oh, uh... Sure. Not a problem. [ใขใฏใข]ใใจใ็ถใใฆๆชใใฎใ ใใฉใ ่ป่ญฐ็จใฎ่ณๆไฝใใ้ ผใพใใฆใใฎใ Aqua: Also, sorry to keep on so, but actually I've been asked to prepare the stats help with this paperwork...if you have time. for the tactics council. Azura: There's one other thing. I could use Aqua: If it's akay...help me out there ๆไผใฃใฆใใใใใใใ? [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใผใใใ S-sure. Ryoma: Aqua: Ryouma? What's wrong. ? You ve Azura: Ryoma? Are you all right? You seem been seeming a bit under the weather ใฉใใใใฎใผใใฃใใใ่ชฟๅญๆชใใใใ Ryoma: a: Huh? Did you say s [ใขใฏใข]็งใฎ่ฉฑใไธใฎ็ฉบใจใใๆใใ ใ ไฝใฎ่ชฟๅญใงใๆชใใฎใใใ? | Aqua: tt seems your head's been in the | Azura: Goodness! rm so sorry. I've been clouds while I'm talking.. are you perhaps dumping all this on you. Clearly, you're not Ryoma: Oh, nah, it's nothing like that Azura: I know you wanted me to ask for help, but I think I've gone a little overboard [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใใใใใใชใใจใฏใชใใ ใใใใชใใใ sorry [ใชใงใฆใใฏใใชใ่ฌใใใ ? Ryoma: W-why should you apologize? ็งใ Aqua. I knew it. Ive been taking advantage of your good nature, haven't I? ใใฃใฑใ่ชฟๅญใซไนใฃใฆใใใใใ? ใใฎๅใใชใใใใๅ
ใจใใฆ้ ผใฃใฆใใใจ ่จใใใใใใใใใใใฆใใใฃใใใ ใใฉ Aqua: Since we had that talk about | depending on you like a big brother, I've been doing as you say, but. ๅฐใ ใใชใใซ้ ผใใใใฆใใใผ? Aqua: If so, don't worry, I'l reign it in ใ ใจใใใใใๆงใใใใโฆ ๆฌๅฝใซใใ Ryoma: No! Don't apologize. It's my fault. [ใชใงใฆใ]ใกใ้ใใใ ! ใใใฏ ๆฌๅฝใซ้ใใใ ! Ryoma: N-no! That's... you're completely ! just didn't expect it to be like this [797]ใงใใงใโฆไปๆฅใฎใใชใใฏ ็งใซ้ ผใใใฆใใใใพใๅฌใใใใใใชใใฃใใใ| all that happy to hear my requests. B-but... today you.. you didn't seem [ใชใงใฆใ!ใใใฏๅ้ใใ ใผ! ใ ใใใๆใใใใฎใฏใ ไฟบใฎๅ็ซฏใช่ฆๆใฎใใใ โฆใใพใชใใ Ryoma: You're misunderstanding me ! It Ryoma: l told myself I would be content just must have been my pathetic resolve that to make your life easier, but I'm not. made you think that way.sorry. [797]ๅ็ซฏ ? you. Ryoma: The thing is I don't want to run errands and lift heavy objects for you. ใใใใๅใฎไบใๅฆนใ ใจๆใใ ไฟบใฏๅ
ใจใใฆๆฏใใใคใใใ ใฃใ Yeah, I thought of you like a kid sister and I I want to be there for you emotionally too. was all ready to support you like a big I want to be there for you as a man. ใ ใ-ใใใฏไฟบใฎ่จใ่จณใซ้ใใชใใฃใใใ ! But . .. that was nothing more than one of Arura: Oh, my. What are you saying? [ใชใงใฆใ1ไฟบใฏโฆใๅใๅฆนใงใฏใชใ ๆๆใฎๅฆปใจใใฆๅจถใใใใจๆใฃใฆใใ Ryoma: I don't want you as a kid sister I want you betrothed as a wife I love abowe all else. [ใชใงใฆใ]ๆ่ฟใใๆใฃใใใใใใชใโฆ ใๅใ็ฝๅคใซๆฅใๆใใ.. Azura, I've known you for so long, I was always afraid to tell you how I felt since you came to Hoshido.. ไฟบใฏใใฃใจใใๆใฃใฆใใใใ Ryoma: I've felt this wary for so very long. Ryoma: You never let anyone get clase to you. I wanted to be the exception. ใ ใ็ฝๅค็ๅฝใฎๆฌกไปฃใๆ
ใ็ฌฌไธ็ๅญใฎ ใใฎใชใงใฆใใฏ Ryoma: But I'm Ryouma... the eldest prince who will one day carry on the legacy ใๅใๅคงไบใชๅฆนใ ใใใจใใใคใใฆ ๆฌๅฝใฎๆฐๆใกใๅฝใ็ถใใฆใใใใ โฆ Ryoma: I used the excuse of looking at you like my precious little sister to hide my real ๆ
ใใชใ่ฉฑใ ใใ ? Aqua: That explains why you had this loolk Azura: I've always felt shy around you. I was [ใขใฏใข1ใใใง-ไปๆฅใฏใฉใใ ๅฟใใใซใใใใจใใฃใ้กใใใฆใใใฎใญโฆ r face like you were in another afraid my heart would break if Igot too close Ryoma: I suppose we've both been trying to make the best of a bad situation. [ใขใฏใข]ใใกใใๅฆนใจใใฆๅคงไบใซใใฆใใใไบใ ๅฌใใใฃใใใฉ ไปใฎ่จ่ใฏใใฃใจๅฌใใใ ! Aqua: tt goes without saying that I was | Azura: It doesn't have to be that way | content to be treated like your precious little! anymore. ister, but. your words today make me ็งใ ๅฟใฎใฉใใใงใใใๆใใงใใใใใ ๅฆนใจใใฆๆฑใใใใใจใๆๅฆใใฆใใใฎใใโฆ I Aqua: somewhere in my heart, I wished the same, and maybe that's why I wanted sister ใใใ Ryoma: Are you saying that you want things Azura: Yes, Ryoma! I don't want you to apen jars for me and carry my groceries. ใใกใใใ ! [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใใฃ! ใใใใใฏๅฆนใงใฏใชใ Ryoma: Oh, oh yeah! That's right! No longer Azura: I lave you. I've been too scared to tell you that I wasn't sure you felt the same. ไฟบใฎๅคงไบใชๅฆปใจใใฆโฆไฟบใฎๅฎถๆใซใชใฃใฆใปใใ-Ryoma: But as my precious wife I want Ryoma: Azura. I've always loved you. From ใขใฐใข? you to be family. That's cool, right Aqua?now on, 'll be there for you as a man should. 777ใฏใใใใใจใ ใใใง็งใฏใใชใใฎๆฌๅฝใฎๅฎถๆใซใชใใใฎใญยท Aqua: Yes, thank you... now I can be a true member of your family. Ryoma: will you promise me that you'll try to open up your heart a little more? ๅฌใใ Azura: Yesl I was afraid of losing you, but we were meant to be together Ryoma: Yeah, and next time, let's go out and buy you ring for you. It's supposed to be an ไปๅบฆใๅใฎใใใซๆ่ผชใ่ฒทใใซ่กใใใ ใใฎๅคงๅใช็ดๆใฎ่จผใซใช! t part of the p know! [ใขใฏๅใใ ็ง..ใจใฆใๅนธใใ. End of S-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/091/200/7b5.png "Azura x Ryoma - S support")
![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Rvoma A-Support Conversation The first few lines had a reference to้ใใใผor toasenbo, which is like King of the Hill (the game) or a barrier you put in your house to stop animals or children from reaching re This conversation suffers of the same problems like the C and B conversations. References to them being family are removed, replaced either with nothing or their own made up narrative. A lot of sentiment is lost in t localization. Instead of ending this conversation amicably like in the original, they just make them stand in front of each other in defiance. #Torrenta!Downpour riginal Translation With altered content NOA Version in blue [ใขใฏใข]ใใใซใใใฎใฏยทใชใงใฆใ?ใฉใใใใฎ? | Aqua: Ryouma is that you? What's wrong? | Azura: Goodness, Ryoma! You're blocking the whole hallway! May I get by? [ใขใฏใข]ใใตใตใใพใใง็งใฎ่กใๅ
ใ ้ใใใผใใฆใใฟใใใใ Aqua: Ahaha. It's almost like you're playing gate keeper and refusing to let me through! ใใใใใฉใใฆใใใชใใใใ? 50 ass [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใใฉใใชใใ ไปๆฅใใใฏ่ฉฑใๆๅพใพใง่ใใฆใใใใ Ryoma: Nope, I'm not letting you go. You'reRyoma: No! I'm not moving-at least, not going to listen to my side of the story. All until you hear me out. Azura: What do you mean? [ใชใงใฆใ]ไฟบใๅฎถๆใจใใฆใ ใใซๅ
ๅฆนใจใซ่ท้ขใ็ธฎใใใใจๅฃฐใใใใใจใ Ryoma: Every time I try to talk to you, to try bridge the gap between us as family, as Ryoma: I've been trying to talk to you all week, and every time I approach you, you run a ใๅใฏใใคใ้ใใใใใซๅปใฃใฆใใฃใฆใใพใใผ ! You always leave like you're trying to run | I'm sorry to corner you like this, but please, Azura, you have to listen! away from me ใ ใใไปๆฅใฏ่ฉฑใ่ใใฆใใใใพใงใฏใ ใใใ้ใใใใซใฏใใใชใใ I can't let you pass until you hear what I have to say to you today. [ใขใฏใข]ใ ใใใใฎๆๆ
ใฏ็งใใใชใ ใซใ ใคใซๅใใฆใจ Aqua: I thought I told you to direct your attention to Kamui, not me Azura: I told you not to waste your time on me. You've found Corrin. [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใ้ใใใ ! No, e got it all vw always been your own person Ryoma: You may be here because Corrin was kidnapped, but you're not a replacement. [ใชใงใฆใใๅใฏๅ้ใใใฆใใใ Ryoma: You've been misunderstanding me. Ryoma:If you'll give me a chance, I'd like to be close with Corrin and you. ไฟบใฏใๅใฎใใจใใใซใ ใคใฎ ไปฃใใใ ใจๆใฃใฆๆฑใฃใฆใใใใใใใชใใ I never meant to treat you as a substitute sibling ใๅใ.777ใใขใฏใขใ ใใใ ๅ
ๅฆนใซใชใใใใจๆใฃใใใ ใ You... it's because of who you are that I wanted to be closer as brother and sister (79T1ใช39 Aqua [ใชใงใฆใ]็ขบใใซใๅใจ่กใฎ็นใใใชใฉใชใใใI Ryoma: Yeah, okay, you and I aren't related ใๅใ็ฝๅคใซๆฅใใฎใ ใฃใฆโฆ by blood and yeah, okay, the very reason you came to Hoshido ็ฎ่ใ ใใใซใ ใคใ ้ฃใๅปใใใใใใ ใจใใ็็ฑใซไปใชใใชใ was cally for no ! than because Kamui was abducted ใ ใไฟบใฏใๅใฎใใจใใใใซใใตใฏใฉใจๅๆงใ ๆฌๅฝใฎๅฆนใ ใจๆใฃใฆใใใใ ใ? I Ryoma: but I've always thought of you the same as Hinoka and Sakura, as a.. [ใขใฏใข]ใใใฏ ใซใ ใคใฎไปฃใใใงใฏใชใใจ? | Aqua: And not just as Kamui's [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใไฝๅบฆใ่จใใใใชใ Ryoma: Of course. Don't make me repeat Ryoma: Please, Azura. Don't make me say it ใขใฏใขใใขใฏใขใ ใใใใใ ไฟบใฏใๅใจๅคงไบใชๅฆนใจใใฆๅฎใใใใใ re ! else, that I feel like you're my precious little sister and I want to see you safe and happy. Aqua: Ryouma... thank you. And I'm sorry for the way I've been treating you ใใใฆใใใพใงใใใใชใใโฆ ็งใฎๅๆใชๅ้ใใงใใใชใใซๅฏพใใฆ ใจใฆใๅคฑ็คผใชๆณใใๆฑใใฆใใใฎใญโฆ I've been operating under a selfish delusion and I've thought of you in quite a boorish [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใ ใใใใไฟบใฏใๅใฎๅ
ใ ใ |Ryoma: Nah we're good. I'm your brother, ๅฆนใฎใกใใฃใจใใๅ้ใใใใใงใ ่
นใ็ซใฆใใใฏใใชใใใ small ing with my little sister, [ใขใฏใซใชใงใฆใโฆใใใใจใ ใปใใจใซยทยทยท Aqua: Ryouma thanks I mean it ็งโฆใใฎ่จ่ใ่ใใฆ ่ฏใใฃใ" Aqua:l .. it's a relief to be able to hear you Azura:Oh. I'm so relieved! I'm afraid I've grown pretty attached to all of you. [ใชใงใฆใ]ๆ่ฌใใใชใใฆใใใ ไฟบใฏๅ
ใจใใฆๅฝใใๅใฎใใจใใใใ ใใ All I've done is what any brother should do. Ryoma: Except, from now own, I wish you'd that's the responsibility of a little sister? Aqua ใใ ใใใใใฏใใฃใจไฟบใ้ ผใฃใฆใใใ ใใใใใใๅฆนใจใใฆๆใใในใ่ฒฌไปปใชใใ ใ? rely on me more. In fact, don't you think Ryoma: Good. I hope you'll lean on us a | little more well, especially me [ใขใฏใข]ใใ ใใใฃใใใ get it ใงใ ๅ
ใซ้ ผใใฎใๅฆนใฎ่ฒฌไปปใชใใฆใ ใชใใ ใใใใใใใญใผ Aqua responsibility to depend on her big brother, you'll ask for help when you need it. I think you're a little touched in the head me [ใชใงใฆใใฏใฏใฏใใใใใใชใฉใชใใใ Ryoma: Ahahaha, it's not so crazy [ใขใฏใข]ใชใใใใพใงใฎๅใโฆ ๆฒขๅฑฑ็ใใใใฆใใใใใญใ Aqua: Well if you say so... then I'm going to Azura: I'm guessing you're going to stand take your word for it and cash in those checks you've promised. there blocking the hallway until I say yes. ใชใงใฆใๅ
ใใใ Aqua Ryoma: That wasn't my original plan, but [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใไปปใใฆใใใ Exce End of A-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/091/199/4c4.png "Azura x Ryoma - A support")
![Comparison for Fire Emblem Fates Voice Customisation (Male) JP ENG ๅฃ่ชฟใฎ้ธๆ Select a voice. ็ฉใใ Calm ๅญไพ ๅคงไบบ Young Mature ๅ
ๆฐ Cheerful Source: JP-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbm-Gej9VM [4:12] ENG-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn99Y2TA3E1:49]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/469/3c6.jpg "Voices missing in the NA version - Fire Emblem")
![fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma B-Support Conversation umma The lines are completely rewritten, some weren't present in the original in any way. The same issue remains with removal of anything related to them being a family (e.g. even the soldiers are part of this "family" even if they're not blood related camaraderie is taken out of the localization). The dynamic of the conversation Mchanges but not in a meaningful way, the swapping of lines and the rewrites are the main problem, in the original, they talked about their feelings more and their bonds were stronger. #Torrentia!Downpour Origin Translation With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Ryona: Aqua, do you have the tine for a bit of a Ryo a: Hello, Azura. Do you have a minute? [ใชใงใฆใ]ใขใฏใขๅฐใใใใ? ใขใฏใข]ใชใงใฆ ne Azura: Yes. Actually, I ve been Looking for you. Ryoma: No, I don't you the ather day? remenber that thing I told Ryo a: Ch? You took our conversation to heart? So can I help you wit ใๅใซ่จใฃใใใจใใใฃใใ ใใ? ไปฒ้ใจใใฆใใใใฆๅฎถๆใจใใฆใ Ryoma: When I was talking about relyingon me a bit more, not just as a fellow ally, but as a member of the family? ใใๅฐใไฟบใ้ ผใฃใฆใปใใใจใ (79T]ใใใใโฆ [ใชใงใฆใ]ๅฎใฏใใฎไบใซใคใใฆใ Azura: Nothing! I just heard that you've beon talking about me behind my back Ryoma: well actually about that, I went and talked to some of the soldiers about it. Ryoma: Did you? Uh...well, that was a bit of a misunderstanding ่ปใฎ่
้ใซ็ธ่ซใใใฆใฟใใใ ใ Everyone started pitching their best advice to me like we were ็่ฆช่บซใซใชใคใฆ็ธ่ซใซไนใฃใฆใใใใ Azura : Was it๋ฆฌ Are you saying that you weren't talking about me? ideas to bridge thing tar out, they alding think of any miracle But even after 11, I *S talking about you, but not ไฟบใใๅใจใฎ่ท้ขใ็ธฎใใใใใใใชๅฆ็ญใฏ we gap between you and .. ็ตๅฑ่ใๅบใใใจใฏใงใใชใใฃใโฆ ใขใฏใข]ใชใงใฆ [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใพใชใโฆ [ใขใฏใข]ใใใฎใใใชใงใฆใๅฅใซๆฐใซใใชใใฆใ Ryoma: The truth is, I as asking our friends for ant us to be closer Aqua: No, that's quite all right, Ryoma really it's not gyou fellou soldiers might have sone suggestions on 1ใใใใใใโฆ didn Azura: Ch, ny. I'n such a hard time Ryoma: Well you say that, but... [ใขใฏใข]ใใใซใใใช่ฉฑใๅฝไบบใฎ็งใซใใใชใใฆ! ใใฎ่ฃ่กจใฎใชใไธๆฌๆฐใชใจใใใใ ใชใงใฆใโฆใใชใใใใใใญใ [ใชใงใฆใ]ใ! ใใโฆ็ขบใใซๆฌไบบใซ ่จใใใใชใใจใใใชใใชใใใพใชใใ (777]ใใใใใชใงใฆใโฆ ็งใใใ้กใใใใใฎใ [ใชใงใฆใ]ใชใใชใใ !ไฝใงใ่จใฃใฆใใ! [ใขใฏใข]็งใธใฎๅชใใใฏใใใใใฎใ ็ก็ใซ็งใๅฆนใ ใจๆใใชใใฆใใใใใโฆ ็งใฎไปฃใใใซใใซใ ใคใๆฐ้ฃใฃใฆใใใฆ Aqua: And telling the object or your pleas for advice all about it .. Ryouma, that's just like you, you've no guile in your straight and pure Ryoaa: h, right non that you nention it, I probably shouldn't have been tolling you all that. sorry Ryoma: "sigh That's al right. 1 should've come to you instead. P Azura: There's no need to apoloeize, You can make it up to me by do ing n favor actually have a reques Ryoma: Y-you do? You have only to say it and I'11 el Anything you es fuss over me? Avatar should Aqua Really, I don't need your kindness. You needn't have to make ne feel better by thinking of me be your priority no So instead, think of Kamui Ryoma: what does Avatar have to do with this? Azura: Ever since I arrived in Hoshido, yau treated Aqua : That kind of pure kindness that until nowใ you gave ne the lave of a close family member ike ๅฎถๆใจใใฆใฎๆๆ
ใฏ ๆฌๆฅ็งใงใฏใชใใ ใซใ ใคใซไธใใใใในใใใฎใงใใใ? It was never meant far me, sa don't you think yau should give it to Kanui instead? But e both knoI was never supposed to be here. Avatar is your fanily! [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใใใฏ ! Ryona: Y-you ve got to be Ryoa: Azura, you're wrongl There's roon enough for both you and avatar [ใขใฏใข]็งใฏใใฃใจ ใใชใใ็ฝๅคใฎใใใใ ใใใกใ ใใใใใใณใๅฅณ็ใจใ ๅฎถๆใจใใฆใฎๆ้ใ้ใใใฆใใใ t have been you and our other iblings Azura: I e aluays been happy hr You and Queen koto made sure of that But no you should focus well this tine as a family koto, all come ins ็งใฏใใใงใใใ
ใใถใๅนธใใ ใใ ใใใใใ ไปใพใงใงใใชใใฃใๅใพใงใ ใซใ ใคใๆใใฆใใใฆใปใใใฎใ ็งใฎใใจใ่ใใใใใ ใซใ ใคใฎใใจใ่ใใฆใปใใใฎใ And I'm happy with Just having that. Moreover... I wish you would give your love to Kamui, even more than you couldn't give to me Instead of thinking of me, I wish you'd think of Kamui ็งใฎ้กใใฏใใใใ ใใใ Aqua: That's my request. That's all it is, really [ใชใงใฆใ]ใพใๅพ
ใฃใฆใใ! ใขใฏใขใ Ryo: Azura, wait! .. .Hnn. Is this why she's been avoiding me? ไปใพใงไฟบใ้ฟใใฆใใใฎใฏ Aqua. So that's the reason you've been avolding me all this time..? End of B-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/467/43f.png "Azura x Ryoma - B support")
![Fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma C-Support Conversation ummar There are several removed and altered lines that had to do with their relationship as a family Ryoma is no longer his authoritative self and has tendencies to become aggressive at random parts Azura refuses his help in an almost angry manner, which does not happen in the original, where she simply expresses gratitude. The localization makes her seem rebellious instead of wanting to be helpful and independent. The original also shows a slight tension between the two because the characters are similar in how they see their roles, that of protectors/leaders, which is absent in the localization. One other change is how Ryoma was changed to instead try to force a social interaction instead of trying to help Azura out of selflessness #Torrentia!Downpour With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Translation we Azura: Goodness! These boxes are heavier than ใตใใๅฐใไผๆฉใใพใใ Aqua Phe, should take a little break it's no wonder I'm tired, didn't think there'd ht ใใฎ้ใฏใใใใใซ็ฒใใใใ [ใชใงใฆใ]ยท.777 ?ไธไบบใงไฝใใใฆใใใใ ? | [ใขใฏใข]ใชใงใฆใใใใใใใๅฅใซ็งใฏไฝใ [ใชใงใฆใ]ไฝใใใใใชใใ ใใใ Ryoma Azura? What are you doing carrying all of those weapons by yourself? Aqua ? what are you doing here al alone? Aqua Ryouma. I- I'm not doing anything all that special Azura: It's not a problem Ryoma: Moving around weapons pack by pack? You can't call Blan ๆญฆๅ
ทใๅนพใคใ้ใใงใใใใใชใใใ ใใใช้ๅดๅใๅฅณไธไบบใฎๅใงใฏ็ก็ใ ใ This kind of heavy work's impossible for one girl. But don't worry about it. Leave it to me Ryoma Blank ใใใใๅฐใไฟบใซใใใใใ ใ Blank ใขใฏใข] Aqua [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใคยทๆๅคใซ้ใใชใใ ใ Ryoma: Ack! This is surprisingly heavy. But this Ryoma: Here. Let me help with that of these are heavy! Some thing ไฝใฆใใจใฏใชใ ใใใใใใงๅๅไปฅไธใไฟบใ้ใใงใใใ Ryoma: I've got it. I'1l get the greater half Aqua, you do those lighter ones Ryoma: Why don't you carry that lighter box over there? ใขใฏใขใฏใใฃใกใฎ่ปฝใใใฎใ้ ผใใ [ใขใฏใข]ใใใใใใจใโฆ [ใชใงใฆใ]ใใใซใใฆใโฆใใใช้ใ Aqua T-thanks Azura: Thanks, Ryoma Blank Ryoma: Which makes me wonder... what made you think to transport all this by yourself? ใชใไธไบบใง้ใผใใจๆใฃใใใ ใ for help once ใชใไฟบ้ไปฒ้ใซ ใใ Why not ask us ter ie ไฟบใใกๅฎถๆใซ้ ผใใใจใใชใใฃใใใ ? Aqua: I simply thought I could move it all by myself [ใขใฏใข]ไธไบบใง้ในใ้ใ ใจๆใฃใใฎใใ Azura: Blank ใใใซ ้ไธญใง่ชฐใใซๅฉใใๆฑใใใฎใใ ใชใใจใชใ่จใ่พใใฆใ AquAnd well .. once I've started somethin on my on I tend to be reticent to ask others Azura: I'm sorry. I thi auay You know I hate bothering people or [ใชใงใฆใ]ใพใฃใใ ใๅใฏๆใใใใใ ใชใ | Ryoma: For real?.. I suppose you've always been like that. Blan ใ ใใใใใใใใใใใใจใใใใฐใ ้ ๆ
ฎใใไฟบใๅผใน Ryoma: But from now on, if you find yourself in that kind of situation, I want you to call me Hithout even thinking twice about it Ryoma: It's not a bother! I'd be glad to help you. I'm here for you anytime. Really ใๅใฏไฟบใฎๅฆนใ ใใใช ๅ
ใจใใฆใๅฟ
ใๅฉใใฆใใใใ Ryoma: Come on, you're my little sister. We're familyl You brother's always going to help you out. an [ใขใฏใข]ใชใงใฆใ ใใใใจใใ Azura: Thanks Ryoma ใงใใๆฐใซใใชใใฆๅคงไธๅคซใใ ๆฌกใใใฏใไธๆใใใฃใฆใฟใใใใใ But you don't need to wor Azura: Now about me? Excuse me se Next time, you 'll see that I've got it all done without help Ryoma: Ah! There she goes ใใใคใไฟบใซ้ ๆ
ฎใใใฎใฏ ๆใใๅคใใใชใใชใ Ryoma Azura, wait! ใ ใโฆใใใ ใชใใใใๆฉไผใซใใๅฐใ ่ฆชไบคใๆทฑใใฆใใใใใใ่ใใฆใฟใใ Ryoma: Always that same hesitation around me, she hasn't changed at all Ryoma: Hmm. I really thought she'd warm up to me one day. I've got to try sonething else End of C-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/460/b9a.png "Azura x Ryoma - C support")
![Charlotte/Xander S-support conversation The removal of lines in the localization, reduces the amount of characterization Charlotte gets during the support orrent ownpour Translat Nintendo of America Ver. content [ใใผใฏใน]ใใๆฅใใชใ ใทใฃ ame Charlotte: This is...a place only the royal family can enter, I shouldn'tCharlott: Of course, Prince Xander. But..isn't this plac ็ๆใใๅ
ฅใใใจใฎ reserved for members of the royal family? ใงใใใญ [ใทใฃใผใญใใ]ๆๆฟใงใ ใใฃใจๆงใใฆใใๅ ดๆใงใใใ Charlotte: I'm very moved... This is the place I had always beenCharlotte: I'm deeply moved..'ve always wondered what it was dreaming of. Burt, why. to be here. [ใใผใฏใน]ใๅใใใใใใฐใ ไปๆฅใใ่ช็ฑใซๅบๅ
ฅใใใใจใใใ Marx: f you'd like, Starting today, you can come and go wheneverXander: l would like for you to be able to come here whenever you wish. But for that to be possible, I must admit my feelings.. -ใญใใ]ใใฃ? Marx: What l mean by that is, this. -ใญใใ [ใใผใฏใน]็ตๅฉๆ่ผชใ ใ Marx: An engagement ring. ใกใใฃ ใใผใฏในๆง? ใใใชใใจ่จใใใใชใใงใใใฉใ ไธใคใ ใใฏใฃใใ่จใใใฆใใ ใใใ Charlotte: W-wait a minute... ord Marx? 1 don't want to say this, butCharlotte: What are you.. .W-wait a minute...Iknow I'm normally Let me honestly tell you what I think. a ltd.e..silly, but can l say something up front and direct? Xander: Of course [ใใผใฏใน]ใใใใ [ใทใฃใผใญใใใใใใใ ใใใใ!! ็งใฎไฝใซๆใใใคใคใผใใ ใ! ใใซใซใใฆใใใใฃใฆใใ ใใชใใ ใใฎใใใใช้กใซๆณใใใ่พผใพใใใใ!! Charlotte: This is just weird, isn't h?l Just what part of me did youCharlotte: This..is messed up! Are you telling me you've fallen even fall for! If you tell me later that it's just a joke or something,I for me?l Because I'm warning you, I get revenge for jokes made make sure to sink my entre fist into that handsome face of yours!at my expense! ใฒใฉใใใจใ่จใฃใฆใใพใฃใฆใใฟใพใใใ ใงใใใใใฏๆญฃ็ดใฉใใใใคใใใชใฎใ ็่งฃใซ่ฆใใฟใพใใ Charlotte: I'm sorry for saying something so rude. But if what you're Charlotte: But if that isn't the case, then I apologize for my words. saying is the truth, then I must be honest and say that l have troubleI'm just struggling to understand what you're saying. [ใใผใฏใน]-็งใซใฏๅธธใ
ใ็ตๅฉ้กๆใใใฃใใ ใใใใ็ก็ใ ใจ่ซฆใใใใฆใใใฎใ ใ Marx: .l have always wanted to get married. However, Ithought it Xander: Charlotte, I've felt a strong attraction to you since we was a lost cause for me, and had given up on that dream. Charlotte: A lost cause... in what way? Charlotte: Could it be that you actually prefer men? Is that n? Marx: T-that's not what I meant Narx: l am the first first met l would have said something sooner, but l was hesitant. thought a relationship between us would be too complicated. [ใทใฃใผใญใใ]็ก็ใฃใฆใฉใใใใใจใงใใ? Charlotte: Complicated? How would it be complicated? [ใทใฃใผใญใใ]ๆฌๅฝใฏ็ทๆงใๅฅฝใใ ใจใ? [ใใผใฏใน]ใใใใใงใฏใชใใ [ใใผใฏใน]็ฌฌไธ็ๅญใฎ็งใจ็ตๅฉใใใซใฏ ไธฆใฎๅฅณใงใฏ็ก็ใ ใจๆใฃใฆใใใฎใ ใ ใใใใใทใฃใผใญใใใชใๅคงไธๅคซใ ใ ใๅใฏๅจ็จใง็ญๅฃซใงๆ
ใซๅใใ ๆ็ใใงใใฆใๆ นๆงใใใใ่
ใฃใทใใๅผทใใ prince, for me to be wed with an average Xander: I felt that a prince should only be with someone of noble woman, it always seemed like it would be impossible. But if it's withblood. But as l thought about it more, and as l learned more strong, and about you...I realized it wasn't an impossible situation in the ou are ใฉใใช่ฆๅขใงใ good at cooking. H you're with me, I'm sure we would be able toleast I'm sure that we can work together to overcome any ไธ็ทใซไนใๅใใใจใใงใใใ ใใใ me any obstacle that came our way hardship. Charlotte: ...Are you really sure about this? would become the Charlotte: You're really tine with this? Wouldn'l ใญใใ ๆฌๅฝใซใใใฎใงใใ? ็งใๆๅค็ๅฝใฎ็ๅฆใซใชใใใงใใใ ome [ใใผใฏใน]็งใใใใๆใใงใใใฎใ ใ You would. And that's what I would like. d to let my p Charlotte: Th-then... staring tomorrow. Would it be okay f we sent Charlotte: Hel..ls Marx: Of course. Caring about one's family that much is a wonderful | Xander: Hah, of course you send money to them. k's important Charlotte Then, what f opened the window over there, and Charlotte: Xander, l'm so excited for our future! Could you situation has changed a brt..Explaining the increase in how ome ไป้ใใใใฆใใใใพใใ? send them each month, heehee. [ใใผใฏใน]ใใกใใใ ่ฆชๅญ่กใฏ็ด ๆดใ s parents. ใใใใ ใใใฎๅบ็ชใใ่บซใไนใๅบใใ ใใฎๅใณใๆใๅใๅซใณใพใใ? cried out to the whole kingdom about how happy I am right now? Marx: f you did that. I would watch over you with a smile Charlotte: Your resolve is real, so you were being honest after me ne Just ็งใฏใใใๅพฎ็ฌใใง็บใใใใ ใใชใใฎ่ฆๆใฏใใใใพใใใ ๅใใงใๅใใใพใใ all. Then. I gladly accept your proposal. Marx: The responsibility of Nohr's future also falls on your sh [ใใผใฏใน]ๆๅค็ๅฝใฎๆชๆฅใฏใๅใซใใใฃใฆใใใ ใใฎๅใใซๆๅพ
ใใใ ders. You will have a fair amount of work. As my wife, and as the Charlotte: Yes! Just leave it to me! Now then, time for me to yell out ใงใฏๆฉ้็ชใใๅซใฐใใฆ ใฏใน]ๅญๅใซๅซในใ ใใใใใใใใใใใ! Charlotte: BOODDYAAAH!! Charlotte: WH00000000000000000!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/089/275/515.png "Marx x Charlotte - Support conversation S")
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