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I also would like to (eventually) have a family, and it's starting to worry me a little bit that if I were to ever get pregnant, I would have to worry about being the breadwinner. He doesn't really help much around the house and doesn't know how to cook, so I admit I am skeptical of what he would contribute in a family situation. He also often says that he wants to get married, but that it's understandably hard to deal with things like planning a wedding/getting a ring when he doesn't have an income and that he just wants to wait until things improve before he starts thinking about those kinds of details. I guess this makes sense, but I'm not the sort to be impressed by fancy jewelry or a big ceremony-honestly, thrift store rings and a little party with friends would make me happy-but it seems to worry him, so I now avoid the topic. These conversations have been exacerbated in recent months due to politics. He and I are both left-leaning people, but he recently has become very obsessed with a series of popular far-left podcasts, and while I don't disagree with much of their politics I find them very abrasive, and I find him constantly parroting them back at me. It feels like every conversation now begins with "Well today on CTH so-and-so said," and every serious conversation about money or healthcare or rent or work ends in "The spineless Democrats couldn't commit to actual socialist change and Obamacare didn't do enough to make healthcare accessible, I can't possibly get health insurance" or "Neoliberalism has just totally f----- the job market, what do you want from me? Until the state actually makes an investment in the people, it's basically impossible," or whatever. These don't devolve into crazy screaming matches or anything, but it just is starting to bum me out that any conversation I try to have that involves any sort of financial/family/health planning just always gets shut down with a snide remark about how the system is f----- and there's nothing he can do. I also find it annoying that he had little-to-no interest in politics before this and was not at all politically active; he's honestly not even registered to vote. Regardless of your political leaning left or right, I find it a little upsetting to be lectured by anyone who refuses to participate in the system because "it's so broken." (I am not an especially outspoken person but I do vote in local and national elections, volunteer in my community, and regularly give money to causes and charities I care about.)
I feel s----- because he thinks I'm being very bourgeoise and making too much of a big deal over money, which is the last thing I want to do. But it's starting to make me feel crazy. I also sometimes get the feeling that he resents me for "selling out" or something like that-that I'm "part of the problem" because I have a corporate day job. On top of that, I think I sometimes feel resentful since as a white dude who comes from a lot of money, I feel that life has given him more opportunities than me (child of immigrants & female) and it frustrates me-I know that's not always just how the system works, but it really does feel that I have had to work much harder for many things. I am starting to feel that he is just repeating these political things as a way to avoid the sorts of dull and banal adult conversations one has to have about things like money and the future and commitment, but I know he thinks that I am just not politically informed enough and that I "follow the rules" too much. But I also worry that maybe I AM just being shallow and placing unreasonable expectations upon him. I feel really guilty, but I also don't think it's TOTALLY unreasonable for me to have some concerns here. What should I do? Am I not being understanding enough of his situation? TL;DR: It is starting to bother me that after 5 years, my boyfriend hasn't really gotten a real job or insurance and turns any conversation about these things into politics. I feel badly because he thinks I am just being very bourgeoise, but this also is starting to feel like an excuse to me, and that he's just parroting back some of the things he reads/listens to. I am not really sure how to broach this, and I'm also worried that maybe I AM being crazy and shallow. Am I in the wrong here? What should I do? edit: typos and removed some accidentally kind of identifying information (names)
Me [28/F] with my [27/M] BF of 5 yrs - he is obsessed with podcasts and can't hold down a job, but thinks I am shallow and bourgeoise. I don't know what to do. Relationships (self.relationships) submitted 6 hours ago * (last edited 55 minutes ago) by anotherthrowaway2222 My boyfriend and I have been dating for about 5 years. We get along very well and he is very kind, caring, sweet, our sex life is great, we rarely ever have serious fights, etc. When we met just after graduating, we were both underemployed creative types with somewhat useless art-school degrees; since then some combination of luck and hard work on my behalf has meant that I started to have a decent career (marketing for a tech company) and now make a decent salary (~$65k.) I am a photographer on the side which is what I (stupidly) went to school for, but I don't mind my day work, and I think I am lucky to have a good work/life balance. I don't know if I will ever make good money on my creative pursuits but I am happy I still get to do that on the side and I generally like my day job well enough. My boyfriend, however, has just been temping since he graduated 5 years ago, but very rarely gets more than a few days here or there. He works on some creative projects (painting & sometimes writing), but never seems to finish anything and does not make any money off it. He also recently got taken off his parents' health insurance, so he has none, which worries me as much of his family is diabetic and he has had some health issues in the past. His parents are pretty wealthy and will help him out in a pinch with things like rent and health expenses. (I do not have this luxury, my parents do not have money. His family isn't, like, crazy loaded but they have a nice house and go on loads of vacations and his parents drive BMWs and give him any money he asks for, etc.) For a while this didn't really bother me-again, we were both recent art school grads when we started dating, being broke is kind of par for the course-but since we've moved in together 2yrs ago, it has started to bother me. We were happy when we were both young and broke, but I am getting to a point where I would like to do things like go on a vacation or buy kitchen chairs instead of sitting on apple crates. It would make me feel great if he was able to contribute to things like this as well. But I feel very bad because he doesn't seem to care about these things and always says I am being very bourgeoise.
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Robert Skvarla @RobertSkvarla Dec 14, 2022 It's funny that when people ask for examples of this, the replies are Greenwald, Taibbi, and Dore -- Gen X'ers who predate the label dirtbag left and always leaned libertarian. Jason Read @Unemployedneg · Dec 13, 2022 The dirtbag left/anti-woke left to fascist pipeline is so fast that it is practically a waterslide. 44 Robert Skvarla @RobertSkvarla 173 9:53 AM Dec 14, 2022 3,660 astroblaccc @astroblaccc Nov 23, 2022 I'm a regular Vic Berger pic.twitter.com/8cNkk8Z1Sp • Say what you will about Chapo, and lots of people who follow me do, but they're not anti-woke. Menaker recently devoted the opening of an episode to the stochastic terrorism of LibsofTikTok and Matt Walsh. اار 9 Retweets 1 Quote 594 Likes 23 Bookmarks ↑ ...
Jason Read @Unemployedneg The dirtbag left/anti-woke left to fascist pipeline is so fast that it is practically a waterslide. 10:46 AM Dec 13, 2022 451 Retweets 231 Quotes 4,694 Likes
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About

Dirtbag Left is a slang expression used to describe a style of left-wing politics that was popularized on the internet after the 2016 United States Presidential Election. The term "dirtbag" refers to politically incorrect speech and vulgar language that is often deployed by such leftists, a move that is at odds with traditional liberal sensibilities of social civility. Dirtbag leftists are known to support anti-fascist policies and wealth redistribution, with several prominent figures in the movement rallying behind the 2016 and 2020 Presidential campaigns of Bernie Sanders. The podcast Chapo Trap House is most closely associated with the movement due to their use of comedy and irony in the style of a shock jokey, and due to their criticism of both the Democratic and Republican parties. Other media outlets and individuals associated with the dirtbag left are TrueAnon, Red Scare, Cum Town, Hasan Piker and Vaush.

Origin

Chapo Trap House co-host Amber A'Lee Frost is generally understood to have coined the term "dirtbag left" and presented the earliest known exploration of the movement in her 2016 article "The Necessity of Political Vulgarity," published in Current Affairs on August 25th, 2016.[1] Various publications published counter-arguments to the "dirtbag left" mythos in late 2016, including Rebecca Traister for The Cut[2] on November 23rd, 2016 (seen below, left). Chapo host Virgil Texas[3] posted a response to the article on November 29th, 2016 (seen below, right).

The Cut @TheCut .@rtraister on "The Dirtbag Left" and the importance of identity politics T HE CUT AVE 1:53 PM. Nov 23, 2016 thecut.com Blaming Clinton's Base for Her Loss Is the Ultimate Insult The women and people of color who have the most to lose under Trump are receiving the lion's share of the fault for our recent national cataclysm. AAPI for: 176 Retweets 59 Quotes 286 Likes 1 Bookmark :
Virgil Texas @virgiltexas So it's come to this. Me @ByYourLogic and @Lowenaffchen annotated Rebecca Traister's essay on the Dirtbag Left. 1:45 PM. Nov 29, 2016 35 Retweets 6 Quotes 168 Likes 1 Bookmark Tweet your reply! 22 O said of Clinton's Election Night celebration turned funeral at the Javits Center: "This entitled f------ slob ... This f------ a------ brought all her donors to have a big party about how great they were. She's never been a f------ leader, ever, in her life. She just has these fans who are psychologically DIX 3 Virgil Texas @virgiltexas Dec 6, 2016 A follow-up on Rebecca Traister's criticism of the first post-election Chapo episode ● throwing a party to thank her millionaire donors pge.sx/2h2uvpC 27 7 3 genius.it/nymag.com/thec 102 소 sure, but also Mothers of the Movement, the reproductive rights and women's leaders, the thousands of supporters who had canvassed and phone-banked and gotten out the vote and driven souls to the polls. It could almost be Trump supporters talking, but it's coming from the people who - Reported guests include Harvey Weinstein, Anna Wintour, Tory Burch & Marc Lasry - all maxed out on giving to #Clinton campaign in 2016 ılı Reply (→

The term "dirtbag left" continued to gain prominence through the end of 2016. As seen in the aforementioned articles, early discussions and criticisms of the dirtbag left revolved around their dismissiveness of identity politics and their criticism of the DNC, an exclusionary characterization that members of the movement resisted[4][5] On November 27th, 2016, the subreddit /r/DirtbagLeft was created.[10]

Spread

In early 2017, various Twitter users posted tweets parodying liberal critics of their movement. Twitter[6] user @jonny_is_good posted a tweet on January 16th, 2017, gathering over 1,000 likes (seen below, left). Twitter[7] user @Trillburne posted a tweet using the phrase on January 17th, gathering over 1,400 likes (seen below, right).

jonny the cool guy @jonny_is_good To be a member of the Dirtbag Left you have to believe that Healthcare is a right and that your bath towel can also be your hand towel 3:41 PM Jan 16, 2017 176 Retweets 16 Quotes 1,158 Likes
The Discourse Lover @Trillburne the drone liberals are furious. Obama is dirtbag left now. next week he's got an article on Lenin running in Jacobin & he's going on Chapo 4:36 PM Jan 17, 2017 264 Retweets 5 Quotes 1,429 Likes

On June 19th, 2017, Redditor /u/anotherthr0waway2222 posted to /r/relationships[11] detailing her troubles with her boyfriend, an avid Chapo listener. The post has since been deleted but can be accessed via reupload by Twitter[12] user @yungneocon.

Critics of dirtbag leftists often compare the movement with right-wing extremists. Conservative commentator Ian Miles Cheong who tweets under the username[8] @stillgray posted a tweet comparing dirtbag leftists to Richard Spencer on July 20th, 2017, gathering over 500 likes in six years (seen below, left). On November 30th, Twitter[9] user @AlexandraErin posted a tweet saying the dirtbag leftists have a right-wing edge lord "vibe," gathering over 600 likes in five years (seen below, right).

lan Miles Cheong @stillgray It's no surprise that extremists from the Dirtbag Left and extremists from the Alt-Right are equally deplorable people who celebrate death. ard Spencer chardBSpencer our grandpa boyfriend J dying like all men must, inMcCain is a detestr and innocent sorts he s were never born at a e pleasure in the thou painfully. 6:07 AM. Jul 20, 2017 BONE" O'Sulliv 166 Retweets 26 Quotes 547 Likes kes 386
Alexandra Erin | alexandraerin@peoplemaking.games @AlexandraErin : I honestly think a lot of the "dirtbag left" are hardcore rightwing edgelords in their hearts of hearts, but they see communism and such as the edgiest edge to lord over. I don't mean to say there aren't deplorables on the left anyway. But... there's a vibe. They have it. 1:45 AM . Nov 30, 2017 99 Retweets 11 Quotes 616 Likes

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BUM CHILLUPS AKA SPENCER HALL @edsbs okay tucker carlson said Elmo was antifa so let's go oscar the grouch: Dirtbag Left 12:59 PM Jun 10, 2020 1,029 Retweets 327 Quotes 4,076 Likes 108 Bookmarks :
the social justice warrior to ironic "dirtbag left" crypto-fascist pipeline
venture communist @dailyremarx watching brooklynites argue with other brooklynites about neoliberalism and the working class from west virginia WHAT IS THE DIRTBAG LEFT? $46,801
When he is red scare chapo trap house based dirtbag left tankie aimee terese brooklyn podcaster twitter user reactionary tankie reply guy gifted kid discourse microdosing death grips bushwick get ratioed cringe midwest emo nick mullen J Tik Tok @urmomlolroasted

Search Interest

External References

[1] Current Affairs – The Necessity of Political Vulgarity

[2] Twitter – The Cut

[3] Twitter – virgiltexas

[4]  Twitter – willmenaker

[5] Twitter – no_talent_shan

[6] Twitter – jonny_is_good

[7] Twitter – Trillburne

[8] Twitter – stillgray

[9] Twitter – AlexandraErin

[10] Reddit – /r/DirtbagLeft

[11] Reddit – /r/relationships

[12] Twitter – yungneocon?

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About

Dirtbag Left is a slang expression used to describe a style of left-wing politics that was popularized on the internet after the 2016 United States Presidential Election. The term "dirtbag" refers to politically incorrect speech and vulgar language that is often deployed by such leftists, a move that is at odds with traditional liberal sensibilities of social civility. Dirtbag leftists are known to support anti-fascist policies and wealth redistribution, with several prominent figures in the movement rallying behind the 2016 and 2020 Presidential campaigns of Bernie Sanders. The podcast Chapo Trap House is most closely associated with the movement due to their use of comedy and irony in the style of a shock jokey, and due to their criticism of both the Democratic and Republican parties. Other media outlets and individuals associated with the dirtbag left are TrueAnon, Red Scare, Cum Town, Hasan Piker and Vaush.

Origin

Chapo Trap House co-host Amber A'Lee Frost is generally understood to have coined the term "dirtbag left" and presented the earliest known exploration of the movement in her 2016 article "The Necessity of Political Vulgarity," published in Current Affairs on August 25th, 2016.[1] Various publications published counter-arguments to the "dirtbag left" mythos in late 2016, including Rebecca Traister for The Cut[2] on November 23rd, 2016 (seen below, left). Chapo host Virgil Texas[3] posted a response to the article on November 29th, 2016 (seen below, right).


The Cut @TheCut .@rtraister on "The Dirtbag Left" and the importance of identity politics T HE CUT AVE 1:53 PM. Nov 23, 2016 thecut.com Blaming Clinton's Base for Her Loss Is the Ultimate Insult The women and people of color who have the most to lose under Trump are receiving the lion's share of the fault for our recent national cataclysm. AAPI for: 176 Retweets 59 Quotes 286 Likes 1 Bookmark : Virgil Texas @virgiltexas So it's come to this. Me @ByYourLogic and @Lowenaffchen annotated Rebecca Traister's essay on the Dirtbag Left. 1:45 PM. Nov 29, 2016 35 Retweets 6 Quotes 168 Likes 1 Bookmark Tweet your reply! 22 O said of Clinton's Election Night celebration turned funeral at the Javits Center: "This entitled f------ slob ... This f------ a------ brought all her donors to have a big party about how great they were. She's never been a f------ leader, ever, in her life. She just has these fans who are psychologically DIX 3 Virgil Texas @virgiltexas Dec 6, 2016 A follow-up on Rebecca Traister's criticism of the first post-election Chapo episode ● throwing a party to thank her millionaire donors pge.sx/2h2uvpC 27 7 3 genius.it/nymag.com/thec 102 소 sure, but also Mothers of the Movement, the reproductive rights and women's leaders, the thousands of supporters who had canvassed and phone-banked and gotten out the vote and driven souls to the polls. It could almost be Trump supporters talking, but it's coming from the people who - Reported guests include Harvey Weinstein, Anna Wintour, Tory Burch & Marc Lasry - all maxed out on giving to #Clinton campaign in 2016 ılı Reply (→

The term "dirtbag left" continued to gain prominence through the end of 2016. As seen in the aforementioned articles, early discussions and criticisms of the dirtbag left revolved around their dismissiveness of identity politics and their criticism of the DNC, an exclusionary characterization that members of the movement resisted[4][5] On November 27th, 2016, the subreddit /r/DirtbagLeft was created.[10]

Spread

In early 2017, various Twitter users posted tweets parodying liberal critics of their movement. Twitter[6] user @jonny_is_good posted a tweet on January 16th, 2017, gathering over 1,000 likes (seen below, left). Twitter[7] user @Trillburne posted a tweet using the phrase on January 17th, gathering over 1,400 likes (seen below, right).


jonny the cool guy @jonny_is_good To be a member of the Dirtbag Left you have to believe that Healthcare is a right and that your bath towel can also be your hand towel 3:41 PM Jan 16, 2017 176 Retweets 16 Quotes 1,158 Likes The Discourse Lover @Trillburne the drone liberals are furious. Obama is dirtbag left now. next week he's got an article on Lenin running in Jacobin & he's going on Chapo 4:36 PM Jan 17, 2017 264 Retweets 5 Quotes 1,429 Likes

On June 19th, 2017, Redditor /u/anotherthr0waway2222 posted to /r/relationships[11] detailing her troubles with her boyfriend, an avid Chapo listener. The post has since been deleted but can be accessed via reupload by Twitter[12] user @yungneocon.


Critics of dirtbag leftists often compare the movement with right-wing extremists. Conservative commentator Ian Miles Cheong who tweets under the username[8] @stillgray posted a tweet comparing dirtbag leftists to Richard Spencer on July 20th, 2017, gathering over 500 likes in six years (seen below, left). On November 30th, Twitter[9] user @AlexandraErin posted a tweet saying the dirtbag leftists have a right-wing edge lord "vibe," gathering over 600 likes in five years (seen below, right).


lan Miles Cheong @stillgray It's no surprise that extremists from the Dirtbag Left and extremists from the Alt-Right are equally deplorable people who celebrate death. ard Spencer chardBSpencer our grandpa boyfriend J dying like all men must, inMcCain is a detestr and innocent sorts he s were never born at a e pleasure in the thou painfully. 6:07 AM. Jul 20, 2017 BONE" O'Sulliv 166 Retweets 26 Quotes 547 Likes kes 386 Alexandra Erin | alexandraerin@peoplemaking.games @AlexandraErin : I honestly think a lot of the "dirtbag left" are hardcore rightwing edgelords in their hearts of hearts, but they see communism and such as the edgiest edge to lord over. I don't mean to say there aren't deplorables on the left anyway. But... there's a vibe. They have it. 1:45 AM . Nov 30, 2017 99 Retweets 11 Quotes 616 Likes

Various Examples


BUM CHILLUPS AKA SPENCER HALL @edsbs okay tucker carlson said Elmo was antifa so let's go oscar the grouch: Dirtbag Left 12:59 PM Jun 10, 2020 1,029 Retweets 327 Quotes 4,076 Likes 108 Bookmarks : the social justice warrior to ironic "dirtbag left" crypto-fascist pipeline
venture communist @dailyremarx watching brooklynites argue with other brooklynites about neoliberalism and the working class from west virginia WHAT IS THE DIRTBAG LEFT? $46,801 When he is red scare chapo trap house based dirtbag left tankie aimee terese brooklyn podcaster twitter user reactionary tankie reply guy gifted kid discourse microdosing death grips bushwick get ratioed cringe midwest emo nick mullen J Tik Tok @urmomlolroasted

Search Interest

External References

[1] Current Affairs – The Necessity of Political Vulgarity

[2] Twitter – The Cut

[3] Twitter – virgiltexas

[4]  Twitter – willmenaker

[5] Twitter – no_talent_shan

[6] Twitter – jonny_is_good

[7] Twitter – Trillburne

[8] Twitter – stillgray

[9] Twitter – AlexandraErin

[10] Reddit – /r/DirtbagLeft

[11] Reddit – /r/relationships

[12] Twitter – yungneocon?

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Ah, tankies. They are russiaboos with no consistent morality beyond "America bad, country that hate America good". They will claim to be anti-imperalist while supporting Russia and China's attempts to annex other countries, insult America over oppressing ethnic minorities while excusing Russia and China's own oppression of minorities, and "hate the rich" while not complaining about Russian and Chinese corporation. Don't even bother trying to parody them; if you attempt to make a claim that sounds too ridiculous to be true, they will probably end up unironically agreeing with it (Just look up #MAGAcommunism)

TL;DR: Basically just fascists who prefer hammers and sickles over swastikas.

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