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Goncharov is a non-existent 1973 movie about a Russia-born Mafia boss named Goncharov directed by Martin Scorsese, which spawned a spontaneous collective writing project and an unreality fandom on Tumblr in November 2022. As a part of the fandom efforts, users collectively outlined the central themes, plot elements and homoerotic undertones of the film and then created fan soundtracks, posters and other content for it. Goncharov has also since been referenced in numerous memes and other jokes.

Origin

Prior to August 22nd, 2020, Tumblr[1][2] user zootycoon posted a photograph of their knockoff boots they had bought online. Instead of a brand name on the tag, the boots had a name of a non-existent movie presented by Martin Scorsese, titled Goncharov, together with some additional information about the film (shown below, left). On the tag, the film is referred to as "the greatest mafia movie ever made."


zootycoon-archive: THE GREATEST MAFIAMOVIE EVER MADE MARTIN SCORSESE PRESENTS GONCHAROV DOMENICO PROCACCIPROOLCTION A FILM BY MATTED JWHJ0715 ABOUT THE HAPLES MAFIA i got these knockoff boots online and instead of the brand name on the tag they have the name of an apparently nonexistent martin scorsese movie??? what the f---

On August 22nd, 2020, Tumblr[1] user losermo replied to zootycoon's post with a screenshot of a comment by Tumblr user abandonedambition reading, "this idiot hasn't seen goncharov" (shown below, left).

On October 25th, 2022, Tumblr user dogsuffrage[3] made a post saying that the tag referenced a poster for the 2008 crime drama film Gomorrah by director Domenico Procacci to which Scorsese lent his name to boost its sales (shown below, right). The post together with its replies ultimately accumulated over 150,000 likes and reblogs on Tumblr over two years.


zootycoon-archive: THE GREATEST MAFIAMOVIE EVER MADE MARTIN SCORSESE PRESENTS GONCHAROV DOMENICO PROCACCIPROOLCTION A FILM BY NATTED JWHJ0715 ABOUT THE HAPLES MAFIA i got these knockoff boots online and instead of the brand name on the tag they have the name of an apparently nonexistent martin scorsese movie??? what the f--- this idiot hasn't seen goncharov abandonedambition "THE GREATEST MAFIA MOVIE EVER MADE." STEPHEN SCHAEFER, BOSTON HERALD MARTIN SCORSESE PRESENTS GOMORRAH A DOMENICO PROCACCI PRODUCTION + A FILM BY MATTEO GARRONE BASED ON THE BEST SELLING EXPOSÉ BY ROBERTO SAVIANO ABOUT THE NAPLES MAFIA OFFICIAL ENTRY ITALY BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM ACADEMY AWARDS 2008 WINNER GRAND PRIX CANNES FILM FESTIVAL 2008 TONI SERVILLO GIANFELICE IMPARATO MARIA NAZIONALE SALVATORE CANTALUPO, GIGIO MORRA SALVATORE ABRUZZESE MARCO MACOR CIRO PETRONE CARMINE PATERNOSTER IFC FILMS presents a FANDANGO production in collaboration with RAI CINEMA story ROBERTO SAVIANO screenplay MAURIZIO BRAUCCI, UGO CHITI, GIANNI DI GREGORIO MASSIMO GAUDIOSO, MATTEO GARRONE, ROBERTO SAVIANO assistant director GIANLUIGI TOCCAFONDO production designer PAOLO BONFINI costume designer ALESSANDRA CARDINI sound director MARICETTA LOMBARDO sound designer LESLIE SHATZ editing MARCO SPOLETINI end title music by ROBERT DEL NAJA director of photography MARCO ONORATO line producer GIAN LUCA CHIARETTI production supervisor CLAUDIO ZAMPETT! creative producer LAURA PAOLUCCI produced by DOMENICO PROCACCI directed by MATTED GARRONE Produced with the support of Ministero per i Beni Culturali and Ambientali-Dipartimento dello Spettacolo Developed with the support of the Media Programme of the European Community Based on the novel GOMORRAH by ROBERTO SAVIANO Published in US by Farrar, Straus-& Giroux PFCFilms 0 SKY CI NICOLOR PANGANGS NATURE DE www.IFCFILMS.COM

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On November 10th, 2022, Twitter[4] user @ai_curio shared several AI-generated stills from the film, with the tweet gaining over 100 retweets and 390 likes in 10 days. On November 18th, Tumblr[5] user beelzeebub posted a fan-made poster for Goncharov, which included the main characters and the cast of the film (shown below). The post received over 15,700 reblogs and 19,900 likes in three days.


AL PACINO ROBERT DE NIRO GENE HACKMAN HARVEY KEITEL MARTIN SCORSESE PRESENTS GONCHAROV A FILM BY MATTEO JWHJ 0715 WINTER COMES TO NAPLES. Written by MATTEO JWHJ 0715 Directed by MARTIN SCORSESE BOO "THE GREATEST MAFIA MOVIE EVER MADE." A DOMENICO PROCACCI PRODUCTION ROBERT DE NIRO as "Lo Straniero/Goncharov" AL PACINO as "Mario Ambrosini" HARVEY KEITEL as "Andrey "The Banker" Daddano" GENE HACKMAN as "Valery Michailov" JOHN CAZALE as "Joseph "Ice Pick Joe" Morelli" AND CYBILL SHEPHERD as "Katya" Produced by DOMENICO PROCACCI Production Services by BEELZ R RESTRICTED

  • Robert de Niro as Lo Straniero / Goncharov
  • Al Pacino as Mario Ambrosini
  • Harvey Keitel as Andrey "The Banker" Daddano
  • Gene Hackman as Valery Michailov
  • John Cazale as Joseph "Ice Pick Joe" Morelli
  • Cybill Shepherd as Katya

On November 19th, Tumblr[6] user castanierprosper then made a fake movie GIFs post for the film, which garnered over 23,600 likes and reblogs in two days (shown below).


MARTIN SCORSESE PRESENTS GONCHAROV MOVIE BY MATTEO JWHJ0715

The posts resulted in a spontaneous collective writing project and an unreality fandom surrounding the film as users developed major themes and plot details of the movie and created fan art and other fan labor for it. Homoerotic undertones within Goncharov – Andrey and Katya – Sofia plotlines were outlined. On November 21st, Tumblr[7] user tsscat created a master post for the collectively written lore of the film (shown below).


Goncharov Lore ("Gonchlore" if you will) Masterpost Note: this is regarding the lore made up by tumblr collaboratively about a fake Martin Scorsese film. See the post that started it all and fake poster. 1. Goncharov was released in 1973. It was written by Matteo JWHJ 0715 and directed (?) and/or possibly co-written by Martin Scorsese. Scorsese's big name helped popularize the film, but as a result JWHJ 0715's significant contribution is often overlooked 2. Goncharov was forgotten and was actually difficult to acquire for many years. This may have been due to corporations hoarding rights and access, the actually mafia targeting distribution of the film, other factors, or a combination of these. This led to pirating of the film, which allegedly led to pirating discourse surrounding the film 3. There are talks of a Goncharov II or remake 4. Goncharov is a mafia boss in Naples of Russian origin. His wife/fiancée is named Katya, also of Russian origin. Goncharov may or may not have fled Russia, and may or may not have been pursued by someone trying to get him back to Russia, possibly to face legal justice. One such person trying to do this could be Valery Michailov 5. Valery Michailov in Katya's sister. He may resent Goncharov due to his relationship with his sister and due to Goncharov being wanted by the Russian government. He is somewhat patriotic, possibly a former government worker or soldier. 6. Katya's last name is either Michailova or Goncharova (although possibly with the wrong suffix). Her relationship with Goncharov is strained, tense, and possibly loveless. She ends up betraying him in the end. This is often seen as a subversion on the typical tropes for women in mafia movies. 7. At some point, Katya is on a bridge with Goncharov. At some point, Katya points a gun at Goncharov. At some point, Katya is injured on a boat/in a boathouse. 8. Katya is amicable with someone named Sofia, who has brown hair. She also has subtextual homoerotic tension with her 9. Sofia may be working class/poorer than many of the other characters are. 10. Goncharov has subtextual homoerotic tension with someone named Andrey. Andrey is Goncharov's old friend/best friend/nemesis/enemy/competitor. There is at least one instance of one of them trying to kill the other. 11. Ice pick Joe is played by John Cazale, making this his 6th movie. He has a famous 10 minute scene with Katya, and at some point dies, also possibly at the hands of Katya. 12. Mario Ambrosini works with Goncharov, possibly as a lackey or number two. At some point in the middle of the story, he betrays Goncharov and Goncharov tells him that he "never wants to see [Mario] again". It is unclear what happens to him after that. Mario also has a relationship with Andrey that some have described as "fascinating". It is unclear how. 13. There is a clock motif in Goncharov, and a general theme regarding "running out of time" before death. There are a few characters who seem at the very least subconsciously aware of the fact that they have little time until their death. The film also deals with the theme of fate, of death and tragedy being and inevitable thing for these characters. 14. Goncharov dies at the end of the movie, due to someone's betrayal. 15. Goncharov (1973) was heavily influenced by the American Cold War propaganda of the time. Some argue that it plays right into the stereotypes of Russians, others say it is a clever subversion of the propaganda and stereotypes of the time. Feel free to add more/expand/add alternative information!

Starting on November 20th, 2022, multiple posts about the film went viral on Tumblr, with the Goncharov unreality fandom becoming the dominant subject of posts on the platform. For example, on that day, Tumblr[8] user fishfingersandscarves shared fan art for "Andrey and Goncharov's final scene" that gained over 6,800 likes and reblogs in one day (shown below, left). Also that day, Tumblr[9] user adreadfulidea made a text post in which she imagined explaining Goncharov to a "non-internet person." The post gained over 3,100 likes and reblogs in one day (shown below, right).


2022 EVELYN ROGERS Imagining trying to explain Goncharov to a non internet person. Well it's a homoerotic 1970s film about a Russian-Italian mafia that never existed. People are adding bits of canon on according to their own tastes like it's arthuriana. It came from a shoe. Tags: I'm so sorry if you don't like this joke but I can't stop posting about it, goncharov

On November 21st, Tumblr[10] user caramiaddio posted a fan-made main theme for the film in a post that received over 29,200 likes and reblogs in seven hours (shown below).

https://caramiaaddio.tumblr.com/post/701497403048607744/all-this-talk-about-goncharov-but-i-dont-see


On November 20th, Twitter[11] user @SailorHannibal made a tweet about the Goncharov fandom, helping spread awareness of the meme to that platform. Some joked about the difficulty of spreading Goncharov memery due to the cultural differences between the platforms. For example, Twitter's @curlysquare earned almost 1,500 likes for remarking (seen below left) on the differences (seen below) on November 25th, 2022.[16] @dr_nicodemus, tweeting on November 21st, compared the vitality of the Goncharov meme on Tumblr to the goings-on at Twitter that month, which was reeling from chaos created by new owner Elon Musk. This tweet (seen below right) earned over 32,000 like in less than a week.[17]


TEAM FIRE STAYS ON TOP! @CurlySquare Twitters reaction to goncharov proves to me that it's impossible to transfer site wide tumblr memes to twitter cause people who use Twitter are always the guy who gets mad when you say shark skin is really smooth guy online @fellawhomstdve · Nov 24 never seen a joke less funny than this Goncharov s--- 5:42 PM Nov 25, 2022 Twitter for Android . 355 Retweets 9 Quote Tweets 1,497 Likes : Dr Nicodemus @dr_nicodemus While twitter is burning down, Tumblr is having a site- wide discussion and analysis of Martin Scorsese's groundbreaking mafia movie "Goncharov" (1973). Which does not exist. There are already four pages of fanfiction on AO3. 3:04 AM Nov 21, 2022 Twitter Web App 4,728 Retweets 403 Quote Tweets 34.2K Likes : ...

By November 28th, 2022, there were over 600 Goncharov (1973) fan fiction works on the fan fiction site Archive of Our Own.[18]

Neil Gaiman Spamming

On November 22nd, as Goncharov dominated Tumblr's trends and almost all discourse on the platform, author Neil Gaiman found himself inundated with Goncharov questions in his "Ask" section (an example seen below).
A Reddit repost celebrating the volume of Goncharov posts trolling Gaiman received over 1,000 upvotes on /r/curatedtumblr.[14] Gaiman's response to the Goncharov questions was negative.


neil-gaiman andrey-transgenderism does the word "goncharov" mean anything to you? NA Yup. It's a really lumpy sort of Tumblr inside joke about a movie that doesn't exist, and right now every second ask is someone asking if I wrote or saw or want to comment on the Goncharov movie. 반응 2,037개

Martin Scorsese Confirmation

In a November 26th TikTok, Francesca Scorsese, the daughter of the director, posted a screenshot of a text conversation with her father where he acknowledges Goncharov as one of his films (seen below).[12] She shared with Martin a New York Times article published on November 22nd, 2022, which described the film using many of the same examples from this entry.[13]


https://www.tiktok.com/embed/v2/7170024294574050602

Posters on Tumblr rejoiced at Scorsese's embrace of their unreality project, with user thebusylilbee on November 26th calling it "the most satisfying ending this Goncharov madness could have gotten" (seen below) and receiving over 24,400 notes in two days.[15]

thebusylilbee Follow martin Scorsese not only acknowledging the bit but also playing along with it is the most satisfying ending this whole Goncharov madness could have gotten. im gonna remember these last few days of blogging with a lot of fondness #goncharov #im sure a few people will keep posting about it but the site wide craze has calmed down now ... #it was short but beautiful #bee tries to talk #martin Scorsese 24,381 notes


Various Examples


part of what delights me about the goncharov joke is the inconsistencies. because it's not an actual movie, different people are imagining different versions of it. some posts claim katya dies, others claim she fakes her death and survives. some ppl say there was real passion between goncharov and katya, others say it was a loveless marriage. the outlines of the film are the same, but the details are different. i like to think that they're all true. somehow, impossibly, everyone's posts are accurate, even when they directly contradict each other. goncharov is large, it contains multitudes. #goncharov #syl posts 5,998 notes Nov 20th, 2022
Behind the scenes shot of Al Pacino going over his lines for Goncharov. From a coffee table book about Pacino. Cybill Shepherd @CybillShepherd - Nov 20, 2022 Fun memory from the set of Goncharov: the bit with the cigar in the poker scene was improvised. Robert had left it on the table, so I picked it up and started smoking it. 214 1796 Cybill Shepherd @CybillShepherd - Nov 20, 2022 When Marisa sat on my lap, she took it out of my mouth, just chewing the scenery, and that's where we got that long iconic smoke exhale shot. 185 10.3K 1384 7.9K made-up homoerotic martin scorcese crime movie A is something that can actually be so personal,

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External References

[1] Tumblr – loseremo

[2] Internet Archive – zootycoon

[3] Tumblr – dogsuffrage

[4] Twitter – @ai_curio

[5] Tumblr – beelzeebub

[6] Tumblr – castanierprosper

[7] Tumblr – tsscat

[8] Tumblr – fishfingersandscarves

[9] Tumblr – adreadfulidea

[10] Tumblr – caramiaaddio

[11] Twitter – @SailorHannibal

[12] TikTok – francescascorsese

[13] New York Times – The Fake Scorsese Film You Haven't Seen. Or Have You??

[14] Reddit – /r/curatedtumblr

[15] Tumblr – thebusylilbee

[16] Twitter – @CurlySquare

[17] Twitter – @dr_nicodemus

[18] Archive of Our Own – Goncharov

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big_king_smegma
big_king_smegma

This meme blew the fuck up yesterday.

Someone made a theme song for it. There are over 100 fanfics for it on AO3. A semi-coherent series of plot points has been crowdsourced in a matter of days, if not hours, and most people doing this appear to be in complete agreement on matters.

I'm pretty sure that the original post dates back to 2020 at the absolute latest.

I like to imagine that in an alternate universe, Goncharov was an actual 1973 movie and right about now the people over there are joking about it not existing.

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Chouseng
Chouseng

Can we take a moment to apreciate the running gag with the cat's name?. He just had to say "I'm named it after Lovecraft's" and so far evey characters gets cut off by someone or something everytime they try to say it's name.

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